Ripper Chaingun Cannon/Handheld Nordenfelt Gun

[Trambuan]

The Ripper Chaingun Cannon should be a real life weapon, It would be a substitute for a Hand Held Minigun, It would be lighter in weight and less bulky too. It seems to be based on the late 19th Century 'Nordenfelt Gun' which was a Gatling Gun rival


It was even being discussed here:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread221469/pg1

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...p/t-88791.html

http://www.securityarms.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568

Handheld Nordenfelt Guns?

[Treupp]

Those are still theories. Besides.... why design guns? Isn't there any better stuff to create?

[Phayzon]

Sure... once the Devastator is done.

[mr. pinky demon]

Devastator isnt really that powerful. Simply the most powerful weapon in a game i have even had was the Voodoo doll in the game Blood (old build game, more action and blood than duke 3d and doom and every other game put together).

Think for a moment, to kill a battlelord with one press of the alt fire mode and everything around it. You can pratically kill every boss in duke3d with 1-2 alt fire modes of it.

[GodBlitZor]

Blood is irrelevant, and you forgot the BFG.

[Phayzon]

Originally Posted by mr. pinky demon

Devastator isnt really that powerful.

The 50 stinger missile coming at you beg to differ.

[mr. pinky demon]

So before you could fire the devastator you will already be dead by the power of the voodoo doll.

[GodBlitZor]

Thats irrelevant, Duke and Blood are different realities that are completely unrelated. WHICH MAKES YOUR POST SPAM.

BAM, 10 awesome points for me.

[Phayzon]

Back to the topic of the Chaingun Cannon becomeing a real-life weapon, I'd like to see a Quake-style Nailgun

[Echo Black]

Originally Posted by Phayzon

Back to the topic of the Chaingun Cannon becomeing a real-life weapon, I'd like to see a Quake-style Nailgun

Not "Quake-style"? Think again...These things are evil.

[Micki!]

^^
Omg

[Phayzon]

Originally Posted by Echo Black

Not "Quake-style"? Think again...These things are evil.

Single-barreled semi-auto? Nope. Not even close.

[Trambuan]

Ripper Gun, Made in USSR, Possibly late 1940s?

Prebor-3B 7.62x39






Shame its not Belt Fed

[mr. pinky demon]

Originally Posted by GodBlitZor

Thats irrelevant, Duke and Blood are different realities that are completely unrelated. WHICH MAKES YOUR POST SPAM.

BAM, 10 awesome points for me.

I love spam, its good.

P.S.damn

[GodBlitZor]

I was just messing by the way, no hard feelings. o/

[bobthefish]

Originally Posted by Phayzon

Sure... once the Devastator is done.

yes, but dont forget the "have pizza within the damn time the dilivery guy is supposed to be here kit"

[Trambuan]

[DavoX]

Seriously why would you want an infantry killer with 3 barrels? you can kill anyone with one or two barrels. If it where a gatling cannon for airforce that's a different thing.

[Commando Nukem]

Originally Posted by DavoX

Seriously why would you want an infantry killer with 3 barrels? you can kill anyone with one or two barrels. If it where a gatling cannon for airforce that's a different thing.

Gimme nine horizontal barrels and a picture of the teletubbies... I'll win a war in five minutes.

[Jiminator]

cuz 3 is way cooler than one or two! :thumbs:

but agreed it is insane, as is the ammo that these things go through (if it existed anyway)

[Sang]

Originally Posted by DavoX

Seriously why would you want an infantry killer with 3 barrels? you can kill anyone with one or two barrels. If it where a gatling cannon for airforce that's a different thing.

Yeah I have to agree - Now if the barrels were put in a way that you can shoot 3 people simultaneously (sp?) I'd be all for it

This thread rocks btw.

[Jiminator]

or better yet a three barrel fully automatic shotgun. that would be a devastating weapon. May be somewhat hard to hold and shoot though...

[Treupp]

A shotgun minigun.

[Commando Nukem]

Originally Posted by jiminathare

or better yet a three barrel fully automatic shotgun. that would be a devastating weapon. May be somewhat hard to hold and shoot though...

Why is that exactly?

[oak man]

Some body NEEDS to make the 4 barrel shotgun from DNA!!!

[Trambuan]

It does exist as the Gardner Gun, Very similar to the Nordenfelt Gun having a slot of 5 barrels, Only more reliable, cheap and easier to manufacture. Basically im just trying to find a way to belt feed the thing.





And make it fully auto, Then mount it on Hummers, Choppers etc. I think i would only have it in 2/3/4 Barrel Variants.

[Jiminator]

Originally Posted by Commando Nukem

Why is that exactly?

My brother had a shotgun once. I don't know if it was the ammo, but that thing had a hell of a kick. It was actually used in a hunting accident. charges were dropped. my brother was given the gun. he made it a sawed-off, cut the stock off and mounted a cushion there. it was still impossible to shoot. later the guy that did the shooting confessed, another guy there paid him as part of insurance fraud. so the police collected the gun again. i am sure if a jury ever saw that gun it would be bad news....

[Telee]

Originally Posted by Treupp

A shotgun minigun.

*cough*riotgun*cough*

[Phayzon]

Thats only a 4-round burst...

[DissidentRage]

Originally Posted by Treupp

A shotgun minigun.

The dubbed "streetsweeper"?

[Treupp]

Perhaps, perhaps

[Zixinus]

Hmm.. The weapon is futuristic, so I don't think 3DR really bothered to create a gun THAT closely.

And why 3 barrels? While one loads, one gets the empty case out, one fires. And onto the next. Then to the next. Then to the next.
In other words: insane rate of fire.

Also I think this weapon was not meant againts humans.

[Trambuan]

NEW IDEAS: This is probably the easiest way of making a 3/4 Barelled Machine Gun, Works the very exact same as any GPMG just that it takes 3/4 rounds at each time.











When firing, The rounds in the middle Chamber's are the first to shoot, Then the Outer Chambered rounds fire.

It is using either Roller Locking/Kiraly Delayed Blowback for its Operation. It uses 250 Round Belts of .458 SOCOM Rounds, The Belt feed is also the same as any conventional GPMG but modded to take 3/4 Rounds at each time.

[Moz]

don't you think using a weak pistol round would be inappropriate for a automatic belt feed weapon.

Pistol rounds do not have a very long range, are heavy, slow and have poor penetration capacity, not to mention it would be much easier to carry a SMG as it would be much smaller, lighter and more reliable.

7.62 NATO would seem like a much more logical choice, and that round is better suited to automatic fire on a mount, with longer range and higher penetration, and not the duke style run and gun weapon. Or maybe even 20mm for aircraft or ship mounted. (where the higher rate of fire would prove superior over a standard one barrel weapon and but the rate of fire, weight and complexity of a 20mm Gattlen would be too much)

Also how do you cycle the gun? do you think blowback would be enough to push that the monster of a bolt back and how do you extract the casings while keeping it very simple.
What happens if there is a dud in one of the barrels, would that stop the delayed firing sequence, and what do you do about clearing jams. Maybe one barrel is jammed but when you clear it all 3-4 rounds fall out.
How do you handle barrel changing? The reason gattlen guns don't change barrels is that they rotate so very fast it automatically air cools them. I'd imagine these barrels would get very hot firing all that pistol ammunition, how could you change out the barrels quickly?

The Rate of fire advantages also fade away when you think about the weight of the weapon and the complexity which could easily be surpassed by an MG3 in a LMG role and a standard Gattlen gun in a aircraft mounted role.

On an interesting note, there is a russian 2 barreled HMG I know off (20mm) that was blowback operated. I don't have a picture of it on me though (I believe it was feed by 2 belts, and the barrel would cock the other barrel after firing.

[Trambuan]

[Dopefish7590]

[Tea Monster]

I've fired a double barreled shotgun and it has a hell of a punch. Firing 4 at a time, and then repeatedly, would be like having a portable hand-held mass driver. You would spend all your time trying to stay on your feet, let alone trying to aim the damn thing.

I've always loved the nail gun - just the whole concept of the thing as well. I've always gone past the nail gun section in Lowes and imagined what I could do with one if a Shambler came around the corner

[Commando Nukem]

You guys must be firing some pretty high caliber shotguns with slugs. Most shotguns i've seen,handled and read about don't kick much at all, in fact you can empty some pretty decent shotguns very rapidly with very little kick. You just have to handle them right.

[Trambuan]

The Salvenmaschinenkanone or 'Samaka'/SMK meaning 'salvo machine gun/canon' could have also gave the idea for this weapon besides the Nordenfelt gun/Pribor-3B meroka assault rifle or the Spanish Meroka CIWS.

[Tea Monster]

Looking at it, the Nordenfelt gun looks more like a 'granddaddy' of the ripper. But they could have got the idea from the Samaka and just 'ported' it to a machine gun.

@ Commando Nukem - Yeah, we were firing slugs. It was my freind's DBS, and I can't remember if it was 12 or 20 gauge. I used to own a 20 guage pump action single barrel and you could do the whole 'Wild West rapid fire" thing. Cool.

EDIT: Heres a picture of the 'Striker' barrel-fed shotgun hee hee hee.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/SH09-E.HTM