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Old 09-10-2005, 09:05 AM   #1
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Wanton Destruction full freeware !!! Is this true.
From the link:

"In a blast from a far away past, 3D Realms sends along the full freeware release of Wanton Destruction, the expansion pack by Sunstorm for their 1997 far-eastern first-person shooter Shadow Warrior. This add-on never made it unto retail shelves and was thought lost in the bowels of time, but has now re-surfaced and is made freely available. The download includes 12 new missions and 4 multiplayer maps, and requires the original v1.2 registered version of the game."

Is this true

http://www.3dgamers.com/news/more/1096482785/
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:20 AM   #2
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Well, there IS a download link on the 3DR main site front page stating as such, so no, it is a complete and total lie and that link is WAREZ.


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Old 09-10-2005, 09:56 AM   #3
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Yes and many have added, modified it already.
Its on my site all ready for JFSW - go get it
It is very nice, no crashes and everything plays just cool
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:59 AM   #4
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Yes and many have added, modified it already.
Its on my site all ready for JFSW - go get it
It is very nice, no crashes and everything plays just cool
Ohhh man. Thanks ProAsm
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Old 09-10-2005, 10:21 AM   #5
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The version i have is 46.4Mb.

The one i got from your site is only 23.3Mb
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:23 AM   #6
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Must be that new fangled "compression" thing, o-ho.
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:48 AM   #7
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The links that 3DRealms have provided all offer up a 21.77mb file. Proasms 23mb file will be a ready to go and rebuilt file for the jonof port, so the size is comparable.

Where the hell did you get a 40+mb file from ?
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:57 AM   #8
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The links that 3DRealms have provided all offer up a 21.77mb file. Proasms 23mb file will be a ready to go and rebuilt file for the jonof port, so the size is comparable.

Where the hell did you get a 40+mb file from ?
From her:
http://www.3dgamers.com/news/more/1096482785/
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Old 09-10-2005, 11:58 AM   #9
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ahhh, i got your prob now.

the official WD grp file is 46.4mb
proasms is only 22.7mb

seems like a lot is lost ?
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Old 09-10-2005, 12:48 PM   #10
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Maybe, to me it seemed like some stuff wasn't finished. But that might just be how the project was left.

For instance there are several places in the game where it feels like new bosses would have been.
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Old 09-10-2005, 02:10 PM   #11
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Yes and many have added, modified it already.
Its on my site all ready for JFSW - go get it
It is very nice, no crashes and everything plays just cool
Right away I can see the one diff in your version than the 40+mb version. Look at the main menus on both of them.
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Old 09-10-2005, 02:53 PM   #12
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The main release had ALL the original art and anims.
I left out the the following as it is just a duplicate of the original and is identical except for a few menu items which have little or no concequence on the game except swell the download.

Files removed:

TILES021.ART
TILES000.ART
TILES001.ART
TILES002.ART
TILES003.ART
TILES004.ART

TILES006.ART
TILES007.ART
TILES008.ART
TILES009.ART
TILES010.ART
TILES011.ART
TILES012.ART
TILES013.ART
TILES014.ART
TILES015.ART

TILES017.ART
TILES018.ART
TILES019.ART
TILES020.ART
TILES021.ART

SUMOCINM.ANM
SW.ANM
SWEND.ANM
ZFCIN.ANM

There is still a ton of VOC files which are the original which could be left out but I left them in.
This TC could be trimmed down to about 10 megs I reckon and loose nothing.

Edit
The reason all the files are needed is that in 1998 GRP files were not catered for like today with JFSW, thats why I created SWGroup if you remember.
If WD used SWGroup it could have halved its size.
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Old 09-10-2005, 02:54 PM   #13
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Noooooooo !!!

You remove:

SUMOCINM.ANM
SW.ANM
SWEND.ANM
ZFCIN.ANM

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Old 09-10-2005, 03:02 PM   #14
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Yes, why, they are identical to the original ?

Edit.
But then if you insist on wanting all the files I've done a second although its a waste.
http://www.proasm.com/files/swtcs/Wantdest_v11.zip - 21.5 megs
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Old 09-10-2005, 03:59 PM   #15
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Nice fix Proasm - one thing i notice tho - using your swp.exe the text for the first skill level "tiny grasshopper" is not visible -but using sw.exe it is clearly visible.
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Old 09-10-2005, 04:59 PM   #16
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Yes it does that the moment a Swcustom.txt file is involved, even if that file only has one level entry.
Wierd, I'll have a look at it sometime.
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Old 09-10-2005, 07:41 PM   #17
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did you check the art files in the wd grp against the originals ? I know they share the same name, but are their contents the same ? i.e new artwork ?

if they are then a wise move on taking them out.

Just leaves me to say a big thankyou to the guys who made releasing the full package possible
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:09 AM   #18
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Yes I did check the art works, one by one and there were about 4 needed out of 1000's which were in the menu only.
One could add these few as .png's
Dump all the duplicate sounds and anims plus about 10 duplicate maps.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:28 AM   #19
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AS you've done the work could you list these tile no's and which tilesarts they are in - thx bud.
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Old 09-11-2005, 01:42 AM   #20
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ProAsm, THANK YOU for your efforts! Great job + great FUN!
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:33 AM   #21
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Right away I can see the one diff in your version than the 40+mb version. Look at the main menus on both of them.
Please explain exactly what you see as I'm busy making another which has dumped all unnecessary stuff and except for the highres and JF extras, I cannot find any difference between the two

Also djimd what did you see that was fixed ?
Maybe I'm going barmy here or something
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:49 AM   #22
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personally i'm not fussed about a few menu gfx so i say "thanks" too Certainly nice to have something we all thought was lost forever, and for free too !!

Might be worth doing the voc dropping to trim that download some more though, seeing as you've gone halfway there already.

Well, had a bit of a play last night, and got to level 2. For the life of me i couldn't find the last secret and enemy on lvl 1. Was gutted...

And i'm curious. What did you type proasm ? pm me
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:22 AM   #23
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@Proasm

Yours: Look up top, still says Shadow Warrior
Other: Says Wanton Destruction up top
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Old 09-11-2005, 07:37 AM   #24
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Look, this is what it says. What are you playing?
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:33 AM   #25
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Take a look at Proasm's version
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:40 AM   #26
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Ok I need some testers/opinions here.
Try this one out as it weighs in at a whopping 2.9 megs and as far as I can see EVERYTHING is there.
http://www.proasm.com/files/swtcs/WantDest_v12.zip
This shows how far JFSW has come compared to the original sw
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:52 AM   #27
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This IS the ProAsm version. It says Wanton Destruction as far as I can read.

EDIT: The v1.2 works just as great. I simply can`t put it down. Thank you!!

EDIT: Yeah and the Wang Bang levels as choice in the menu is on now!! This version kicks ass!
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:34 AM   #28
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OK, ill grab a new one.

MY copy of Proasms version clearly has the letters S H A D O W W A R R I O R, not W A N T O N D E S T R U C T I O N.

EDIT: The new one says it now, but the old one DID NOT.
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Old 09-11-2005, 03:42 PM   #29
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wow, only 2.9mb. Nice 1.
Gonna have a blast on it now
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Old 09-11-2005, 06:51 PM   #30
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Ok I need some testers/opinions here.
Try this one out as it weighs in at a whopping 2.9 megs and as far as I can see EVERYTHING is there.
http://www.proasm.com/files/swtcs/WantDest_v12.zip
This shows how far JFSW has come compared to the original sw
Hello ProAsm!

About WantDest_v12.zip:
It's a good idea, to make the giant download smaller.
There is TILES017.ART missing.
TILES017.ART contains an altered anime girl (tiles 4594 - 4597) it wears in wanton destruction a burea dress instead of swimsuit.
You shoul add it in the next version.

Also add a textfile with info about who you are, what you dit on the original, and contact info.

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Old 09-11-2005, 07:18 PM   #31
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Nice work ProAsm!

FunDuke... the Anime Girl you mention was supposed to be in the Rooftops level right before you meet "you know who". I think she is even supposed to have a couple of lines warning you about it, but I don't know what they recorded. Not sure why she isn't showing up or if they never got around to placing her.

If anyone is able to fix the boss sequences and have them included in ProAsm's version then I'm sure Joe could be convinced to do an update to the 3DR Front Page Story and point out the JFSW compatible version. I think it would make some people very happy and their lives easier. It'd be good to hear about people playing through it first though to make sure it works from start to finish.

Edit: Actually if I run the boss maps by themselves (extracted from the GRP file) the bosses and the anime girl spawn fine. So I guess it's something on the code side.
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So I guess it's something on the code side.
I'm inclined to agree. Looking for the problem at the moment.

Edit: Well, if you launch the game from the command line with the -level20 parameter, the bosses appear. If you start a new game and use the swtrek20 cheat, they don't.
Edit 2: Or not quite. I'll shut up until I fix it.

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Old 09-12-2005, 10:30 AM   #33
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Was that problem with the key placing on the last map fixed in this version? I came across that when you released your own maps, remember
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Old 09-12-2005, 11:55 AM   #34
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Good luck catching these rogue bugs, I'm gonna wait until it's complete and updated on the main page to try it out
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Old 09-12-2005, 02:46 PM   #35
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TILES017.ART contains an altered anime girl (tiles 4594 - 4597) it wears in wanton destruction a burea dress instead of swimsuit.
Nice find there Funduke, those textures got past me.
Ok I have added them now as well as a .doc file of mine which describes the changes and contact information.
They just doing maintenance on my site then I'll upload.
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Old 09-12-2005, 03:19 PM   #36
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Ok the new file is up:
http://www.proasm.com/files/swtcs/WantDest_v13.zip

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If anyone is able to fix the boss sequences and have them included in ProAsm's version
NotWieder3DR what is the sequence ?
The new v12 and v13 - 2.9 meg files I have up has the new Zilla sequence in it which the 20 meg one did not.
The sequence is in the ZFCIN.ANM file which is not much different to the original except for what is said by Lo Wang and the 'sub titles' at the bottom.

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Edit: Actually if I run the boss maps by themselves (extracted from the GRP file) the bosses and the anime girl spawn fine. So I guess it's something on the code side.
Check the latest v13 upload.
Everything is there.
I played v12 right through without cheating, something i never do, and it all looked great to me, could not fault anything, except what Funduke pointed out.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:04 PM   #37
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Ok the new file is up:
http://www.proasm.com/files/swtcs/WantDest_v13.zip

Thank you.
I download it right now.

This might have been posted before somewere by somebody else:
I would be great, to extract only the relevant graphics from the *.art files and put them via a *.def file into the game. That would make the download again smaller.
But AFAIK, JonoF's port currently doesn't support to include sprites in that way. Only texture graphics. But again, i don't know that exactly. I was so far only interested in the 3d models.

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Old 09-12-2005, 04:21 PM   #38
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There's a level that I get to, called "Skyscraper", and whenever I get teleported to an area that has the red card I pick it up but I'm trapped in that area. The doors won't open or anything. I'm wondering, am I doing something wrong or is this an unfortunate bug I ran into?
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:37 PM   #39
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I would be great, to extract only the relevant graphics from the *.art files and put them via a *.def file into the game. That would make the download again smaller.
But AFAIK, JonoF's port currently doesn't support to include sprites in that way. Only texture graphics. But again, i don't know that exactly.
Now, after downloading end extracting, i can see, that you did it already with the girl.
Will you do it also with the still included *.art files? They contain still enemy art, that is alredy in SW.GRP and blow the size of the download up.
Having an as small as possible WD download is an obsession for me! The first took me several hours.

--- Also thank you for including WantDest.doc.

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Old 09-12-2005, 04:42 PM   #40
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You have to kill the enemy on the roof. That should do it.
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