What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? - Page 2

Gabrobot · 08-23-2007, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Actually Bioshock uses UE2 + Irrational's custom modifications + some UE3 code. Beyond the tools, I don't think they have said anyhing more specific about what code from UE3 it uses.

It sounds like they use the base engine stuff as well, but they said "there's a lot of marketing there" so I think most of the "real" engine stuff is Irrational's.

HP · 08-24-2007, 11:40 AM

idTech 5.
Or even idTech 4, with some improvements, of course.

I don't think It'll use anything but id engines, the developers are already used to it, and this time they could make a much better job, so, no point in a sudden change of engine.

Malgon · 08-27-2007, 04:20 AM

^Good point.

StrikerMan780 · 08-29-2007, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Parkar

Area51 uses Unreal Engine 3.

I'm not talking about the UPCOMING Area51, I'm talking about the already Released Area51 for XBox, PS2, and PC, and it's By Midway. Like, the one with Ethan Cole, Dr. Winston Cray, etc. I like it's engine, except it kinda overdid it with the HDR/Bloom, if it were to be used, It would have to be toned down.

But, if anything I would actually like ID Tech5.

Colicedus · 08-30-2007, 04:46 AM

I found the Quake engine 4 a little clunky.
Lighting was good, but I think allot of the Ragdoll features were rather buggy, some times, unnatural, although it could be bad skeletal animation and crappy computer, but I noticed in both Prey and Doom3, some times, an armor texture moves with some ones arm. For example, the texture literally S-T-E-A-C-H-S across from the body to an arm as some on lifts there arm.

With that said, I can come up with some good points for it.
Real time lighting was good...

What I would like to see in a new engine would be Soft body physics!
think for a moment, shooting your high powered gun, and it creates a hole right though the module! you can see though the other side of it, but its not like a peace nocked off of a Jigsaw puzzle.

Or if Tommy has a Tomahawk, his slash dose not just add a nice looking scar Decal, instead, it actuality makes a gouge into the model!

Gabrobot · 08-30-2007, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Colicedus

I found the Quake engine 4 a little clunky.
Lighting was good, but I think allot of the Ragdoll features were rather buggy, some times, unnatural, although it could be bad skeletal animation and crappy computer, but I noticed in both Prey and Doom3, some times, an armor texture moves with some ones arm. For example, the texture literally S-T-E-A-C-H-S across from the body to an arm as some on lifts there arm.

The stretching thing has nothing to do with the engine, it's a modeling/weighting/uv mapping issue and it'll look like that in any engine (and in offline renders). Physics-wise, the D3 engine can do anything other physics engine can do (as far as hard bodies), it's just slower at it (I'm not sure if it's because of optimization or if it's because of the high precision path system they use).

slapnutz · 08-30-2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Colicedus

What I would like to see in a new engine would be Soft body physics!

Ask and ye' shall receive... boomshakalaka!
http://www.realmatter.com/

Colicedus · 08-31-2007, 07:24 AM

You know, thats where I first heard about softbody Physics!

I had so much fun with that!

Colicedus · 09-06-2007, 02:02 PM

Bump...

I think Prey 2 should be available to OSx!
Thats the only reason I played Prey in the first place, and that was because Aspyar made a Mac Version.

What do you guys think?
(FLAmE W@RS FTW

, JK)

wayskobfssae · 09-20-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowy

Cry Engine would be horrible for prey. The engine is built for outdoors. Probably id tech 5 or UT3 would be the best for prey.

Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. We have no idea what the sequel will entail. My guess is it'll probably be NOTHING like the Sphere so perhaps we have need for something more suited for outdoor play?

Altered Reality · 10-12-2007, 10:32 AM

Human Head had already started to work on Prey 2 before the first game was even released, so we're safe to assume they'll just improve what they already have (unless they pull a DNF on us and restart from scratch after 5 years of development).

Dunedain · 10-14-2007, 10:34 PM

The Doom III engine is really excellent, and the Prey team is already expert in how to use it from their experience making Prey, so that's what they should use to make Prey II. And that's almost certainly what they are using.

Just use the latest version of the DOOM III engine, equal to or even more refined than the newest version used in the latest Quake IV patch, and Prey II will look fantastic!

Remember, we've only seen the beginning of what the Doom III engine can do. There were limitations when Doom III came out (and when Prey was being designed) due to the PC hardware available at the time, and Doom III looks great. But now the guys making Prey II can really start to show what the Doom III engine can do.

The unified lighting model of Doom III is tremendous, everything is dynamic, so you get highly realistic lighting and shadows, which makes the games that use it look really slick.

kp1197 · 07-04-2008, 01:30 PM

Has anyone considered Lithtech Jupiter EX? (Condemned: Bloodshot engine)
Personally, I think ID Tech 5 would be the safest bet, because of the momentum that Human Head has accumulated with ID tech.

Sayantan · 07-04-2008, 10:45 PM

iD Tech 5 ofcourse. Mainly because the team worked with Doom3 engine for the first game.

bobthefish · 07-04-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dlink

Cryengine ftw UE3 woudl just require a way too good computer to run the game :O

im running unreal tourney 3 nearly all settings maxed with a:
p4 2.24 ghz
nvidia gforce 7800
785 mb ram.

my pc is nearing 8 years old. ive only ever changed the video card and added 256 mb ram.

SniperZERO · 07-05-2008, 03:39 AM

I'm voting for id tech 5 also. If Prey 2 will have outdoor spaces the engine can do that too.

peoplessi · 07-05-2008, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bobthefish

im running unreal tourney 3 nearly all settings maxed with a:
p4 2.24 ghz
nvidia gforce 7800
785 mb ram.

my pc is nearing 8 years old. ive only ever changed the video card and added 256 mb ram.

Don't lie, I wan't to see benchmarks before I believe that. Just looking at the other benchmarks on net, running UT3 maxed on that system isn't just possible - so that is playable. Meaning average fps over 40.

Quokimbo · 07-05-2008, 09:29 AM

Is Prey 2 going to be on any platforms? I played Prey on the 360 and enjoyed the game very much! Would hope to see it launch multi-platform!

Kristian Joensen · 07-05-2008, 10:14 AM

http://www.radargroup.com/projects2.html

Quokimbo · 07-05-2008, 11:09 AM

The 360 it is...

Damien_Azreal · 07-05-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by peoplessi

Don't lie, I wan't to see benchmarks before I believe that. Just looking at the other benchmarks on net, running UT3 maxed on that system isn't just possible - so that is playable. Meaning average fps over 40.

The GPU and CPU I could believe, but the lack of Ram is a bit hard to swallow. UE3 surprisingly isn't as demanding as I thought it would be.

Malgon · 07-06-2008, 09:59 PM

Hah! I forgot all about this thread.

I'd be interested to see what HH is using. Maybe we'll hear something about it this year.

08-24-2007, 11:40 AM	#42
HP	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? idTech 5. Or even idTech 4, with some improvements, of course. I don't think It'll use anything but id engines, the developers are already used to it, and this time they could make a much better job, so, no point in a sudden change of engine. __________________ Helder "hP" Pinto www.helderpinto.com

08-27-2007, 04:20 AM	#43
Malgon	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? ^Good point. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

08-30-2007, 04:46 AM	#45
Colicedus	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? I found the Quake engine 4 a little clunky. Lighting was good, but I think allot of the Ragdoll features were rather buggy, some times, unnatural, although it could be bad skeletal animation and crappy computer, but I noticed in both Prey and Doom3, some times, an armor texture moves with some ones arm. For example, the texture literally S-T-E-A-C-H-S across from the body to an arm as some on lifts there arm. With that said, I can come up with some good points for it. Real time lighting was good... What I would like to see in a new engine would be Soft body physics! think for a moment, shooting your high powered gun, and it creates a hole right though the module! you can see though the other side of it, but its not like a peace nocked off of a Jigsaw puzzle. Or if Tommy has a Tomahawk, his slash dose not just add a nice looking scar Decal, instead, it actuality makes a gouge into the model! __________________ Colicdus: the Chainsaw master was here

08-31-2007, 07:24 AM	#48
Colicedus	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? You know, thats where I first heard about softbody Physics! I had so much fun with that! __________________ Colicdus: the Chainsaw master was here

09-06-2007, 02:02 PM	#49
Colicedus	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? Bump... I think Prey 2 should be available to OSx! Thats the only reason I played Prey in the first place, and that was because Aspyar made a Mac Version. What do you guys think? (FLAmE W@RS FTW , JK) __________________ Colicdus: the Chainsaw master was here

10-12-2007, 10:32 AM	#51
Altered Reality	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? Human Head had already started to work on Prey 2 before the first game was even released, so we're safe to assume they'll just improve what they already have (unless they pull a DNF on us and restart from scratch after 5 years of development). __________________ [...] We view customers as complete morons that will never catch on and [...] we're lying to them all the time. (Gabe Newell, Valve) I'm the worst enemy in film-making and a completely talentless idiot. (Uwe Boll) Faith is why you are wrong. (Crosma)

10-14-2007, 10:34 PM	#52
Dunedain	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? The Doom III engine is really excellent, and the Prey team is already expert in how to use it from their experience making Prey, so that's what they should use to make Prey II. And that's almost certainly what they are using. Just use the latest version of the DOOM III engine, equal to or even more refined than the newest version used in the latest Quake IV patch, and Prey II will look fantastic! Remember, we've only seen the beginning of what the Doom III engine can do. There were limitations when Doom III came out (and when Prey was being designed) due to the PC hardware available at the time, and Doom III looks great. But now the guys making Prey II can really start to show what the Doom III engine can do. The unified lighting model of Doom III is tremendous, everything is dynamic, so you get highly realistic lighting and shadows, which makes the games that use it look really slick. __________________ Location: Just outside the door with dual Beretta 9mm's...

07-04-2008, 01:30 PM	#53
kp1197	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? Has anyone considered Lithtech Jupiter EX? (Condemned: Bloodshot engine) Personally, I think ID Tech 5 would be the safest bet, because of the momentum that Human Head has accumulated with ID tech.

07-04-2008, 10:45 PM	#54
Sayantan	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? iD Tech 5 ofcourse. Mainly because the team worked with Doom3 engine for the first game. __________________ LinkedIn Profile

07-05-2008, 03:39 AM	#56
SniperZERO	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? I'm voting for id tech 5 also. If Prey 2 will have outdoor spaces the engine can do that too. Last edited by SniperZERO; 07-05-2008 at 09:37 AM.

07-05-2008, 09:29 AM	#58
Quokimbo	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? Is Prey 2 going to be on any platforms? I played Prey on the 360 and enjoyed the game very much! Would hope to see it launch multi-platform! __________________ My lives work. /\ /\ Clicky! /\ /\

07-05-2008, 10:14 AM	#59
Kristian Joensen	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? http://www.radargroup.com/projects2.html __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

07-05-2008, 11:09 AM	#60
Quokimbo	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? The 360 it is... __________________ My lives work. /\ /\ Clicky! /\ /\

07-06-2008, 09:59 PM	#62
Malgon	Re: What engine do you think Prey 2 should use? Hah! I forgot all about this thread. I'd be interested to see what HH is using. Maybe we'll hear something about it this year. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2