Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information inside!)

hegemon101 · 03-04-2006, 02:47 PM

During my constant search for new Duke Nukem info, I came across an interesting website. All information presented comes from here:

http://www.turner.com/planet/static/duke.html

DUKE NUKEM
Voiced by Dean Stockwell and Maurice LaMarche

Profile: The product of his own mad science gone awry, this hideous "glow-in-dark" villain loves radioactivity. Able to control his body's radiation, the Duke uses it to intimidate his enemies into submission. Other characters must wear protective suits if they are going to spend a lot of time around him.

The Duke consumes radiation to make himself more powerful and must "recharge" himself periodically by exposing his body to massive doses of radiation. His long-term plan is to turn the world into a radioactive wasteland where he and his kind will thrive. Until then, he bides his time, hoping to set off a chain reaction here and there - maybe even a nuclear war.

His errand boy, Leadsuit (voiced by Frank Welker), is really a coward - to the point of being afraid of the dark or quickly revealing Duke's whereabouts when interrogated. He submits readily to Duke's tyranny and takes insults like "Leadhead" or "Leadbrain" without flinching.

Duke Nukem sports a dark red mohawk, his skin has become hard and scaly, and his eyes have developed x-ray vision. He sometimes wears coveralls that bare his arms and part of his chest but his favorite outfit is a Hawaiian shirt that he wears while "catching some rays." "Radiation bathing" is the Duke's version of sunbathing and recharges his radioactive powers.

Sidekick Leadsuit's name describes his attire. He wears a full radiation suit and helmet to protect himself from his radioactive boss - not to mention the danger of exposure in their uranium mine hideout.

(Duke Nukem)

Ivan · 03-04-2006, 02:49 PM

Isn't that Ted Turner's Duke Nukem version?

KaiserSoze · 03-04-2006, 03:15 PM

Absolutely has nothing to do with 3drealm's "Duke Nukem" trademarked character.

Commando Nukem · 03-04-2006, 03:44 PM

I believe there was a law-suit or some form of legal action taken against that by 3D realms wasnt there?

Micki! · 03-04-2006, 03:49 PM

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Commando Nukem said:
I believe there was a law-suit or some form of legal action taken against that by 3D realms wasnt there?

Yep...
The above "Duke Nukem" wasn't copyrighted, so 3DR had full access to use the name...

Thier first Duke game Was Duke Nukum (with "U" instead of "E") even if they wanted the other name... but they thought it was already taken... But since it wasn't copyrighted, they took it...

Our Ted Turner guy:

Owns the rights for the above cartoon character...
And he lost the lawsuit...

At least that's how i got the story... Anyone who can confirm this..?

Kalki · 03-04-2006, 04:11 PM

Wasn't there a compromise that since they were on two seperate mediums, they could coexist? I don't think this applies to the DN movie, does it?

Kristian Joensen · 03-04-2006, 04:59 PM

No that is no compromise that is how trademark law works, trademarks are divided into many categories games and movies begin part of 2 different categories.

Micki! a couple of comments to your post:

1. This concerns trademarks not copyrights, two widely different things.
2. I believe the orginal Duke game was named Duke Nukum because of a some "overseas" character not the charcter from Captain Planet.
3. I beleive Turner Broadcasting sued 3D Realms/Apogee not the other way around

Kalki, no it wouldn't be different with the Duke movie because:

1. The test of violation in trademark law is if the concerned products/services are "confusingly similar".
2. Captain Planet was abonded along time ago
3. I don't think the Duke Nukem character from Captain Planet has acquired " Secondary meaning" that is it isn't what you think about when you hear "Duke Nukem".
4. Duke Nukem(By 3DR) is arguably a famous mark.
5. 3D Realms registered trademark "Duke" already covers the category for movies
6. A Captain Planet movie probably wouldn't be called "Duke Nukem" while that likely will be the name or part of the name of the Duke movie.

NutWrench · 03-04-2006, 05:26 PM

Maurice LaMarche also does the voice of "Brain" from Pinky and the Brain

Micki! · 03-04-2006, 05:28 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Micki! a couple of comments to your post:

1. This concerns trademarks not copyrights, two widely different things.
2. I believe the orginal Duke game was named Duke Nukum because of a some "overseas" character not the charcter from Captain Planet.
3. I beleive Turner Broadcasting sued 3D Realms/Apogee not the other way around

1 - Sorry for the mix up... I always confue "copyrights" and "trademarks" together...

Anyways, no comment to 2...

3 - Yeah, Turner boradcasting sued Apogee/3DR... And they won... That's why we all refer Ted being a greedy

...

someguy2435 · 03-04-2006, 06:47 PM

3D Realms Duke Nukem > crappy Captain Planet villain Duke Nukem

Gatinater · 03-04-2006, 10:23 PM

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someguy2435 said:
3D Realms Duke Nukem > crappy Captain Planet villain Duke Nukem

Yes, Captain Planet sucked.

Steve · 03-04-2006, 10:47 PM

Captain Planet looks like some sort of gay cyborg... with the shiny skin and green hair. GO PLANET!

Kalki · 03-05-2006, 01:11 AM

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Kristian Joensen said:
No that is no compromise that is how trademark law works, trademarks are divided into many categories games and movies begin part of 2 different categories.

Ah, my mistake.

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2. I believe the orginal Duke game was named Duke Nukum because of a some "overseas" character not the charcter from Captain Planet.
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5. 3D Realms registered trademark "Duke" already covers the category for movies

Re: 2. What overseas character?

The only thing similar to the property is the character "Duke" from GI Joe, to my knowledge.

Re: 5. Just "Duke"? You meant "Duke Nukem", right?

Cerberus_e · 03-05-2006, 07:09 AM

So why does 3DR hate Ted Turner? Ted was still the first one to invent the name Duke Nukem.

Micki! · 03-05-2006, 07:17 AM

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Cerberus_e said:
So why does 3DR hate Ted Turner? Ted was still the first one to invent the name Duke Nukem.

WEll, Ted din't want them to use the name at all, since he invented it... They took it wothout permission, but they were allowed to do so anyways, since the name wasn't trademarked..!

Kristian Joensen · 03-05-2006, 08:42 AM

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Kalki said:

Quote:

Kristian Joensen said:
No that is no compromise that is how trademark law works, trademarks are divided into many categories games and movies begin part of 2 different categories.

Ah, my mistake.

Quote:

2. I believe the orginal Duke game was named Duke Nukum because of a some "overseas" character not the charcter from Captain Planet.
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5. 3D Realms registered trademark "Duke" already covers the category for movies

Re: 2. What overseas character?

The only thing similar to the property is the character "Duke" from GI Joe, to my knowledge.

Re: 5. Just "Duke"? You meant "Duke Nukem", right?

No from what I can gather there is no currently "active" "Duke Nukem" trademark that covers the categories relevant for movies is registered but there is a "Duke" one. But there IS a "Duke Nukem" trademark that is registered and just because a trademarks isn't registered doesn't mean doesn't exist. Also see my point about "confusing similarity".

Phayzon · 03-05-2006, 12:03 PM

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Gatinater said:

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someguy2435 said:
3D Realms Duke Nukem > crappy Captain Planet villain Duke Nukem

Yes, Captain Planet sucked.

I second that.

Cerberus_e · 03-05-2006, 05:02 PM

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Micki! said:

Quote:

Cerberus_e said:
So why does 3DR hate Ted Turner? Ted was still the first one to invent the name Duke Nukem.

WEll, Ted din't want them to use the name at all, since he invented it... They took it wothout permission, but they were allowed to do so anyways, since the name wasn't trademarked..!

I know that, but as much as I like Duke Nukem 3D, I still think 3DR shouldn't have done that

Gatinater · 03-06-2006, 12:18 AM

Ted Turner is an ass.

I'm Fairly certain Nukem is a real last name anyway. So he may have invented the character, but not the name Duke Nukem.

Just Like Max Payne. It might trademarked and the game itself coprighted but thousands of real people actually have the name Maxwell Payne.

So the name can be reused but the character and material must be different and the title of the game can't be Max Payne.

laffer · 03-06-2006, 05:53 AM

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Cerberus_e said:

Quote:

Micki! said:

Quote:

Cerberus_e said:
So why does 3DR hate Ted Turner? Ted was still the first one to invent the name Duke Nukem.

WEll, Ted din't want them to use the name at all, since he invented it... They took it wothout permission, but they were allowed to do so anyways, since the name wasn't trademarked..!

I know that, but as much as I like Duke Nukem 3D, I still think 3DR shouldn't have done that

It's for the better though unless you'd prefer a Frank Blow'em or something.

Commando Nukem · 03-06-2006, 06:41 AM

hmmm... That sounds like a naming spoof contest to me!

fast-1 · 09-03-2013, 05:28 PM

Baron Steel.

Wow I didn't think this could happen. I must of thought this thread was deleted.

03-04-2006, 02:47 PM	#1
hegemon101	Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information inside!) During my constant search for new Duke Nukem info, I came across an interesting website. All information presented comes from here: http://www.turner.com/planet/static/duke.html DUKE NUKEM Voiced by Dean Stockwell and Maurice LaMarche Profile: The product of his own mad science gone awry, this hideous "glow-in-dark" villain loves radioactivity. Able to control his body's radiation, the Duke uses it to intimidate his enemies into submission. Other characters must wear protective suits if they are going to spend a lot of time around him. The Duke consumes radiation to make himself more powerful and must "recharge" himself periodically by exposing his body to massive doses of radiation. His long-term plan is to turn the world into a radioactive wasteland where he and his kind will thrive. Until then, he bides his time, hoping to set off a chain reaction here and there - maybe even a nuclear war. His errand boy, Leadsuit (voiced by Frank Welker), is really a coward - to the point of being afraid of the dark or quickly revealing Duke's whereabouts when interrogated. He submits readily to Duke's tyranny and takes insults like "Leadhead" or "Leadbrain" without flinching. Duke Nukem sports a dark red mohawk, his skin has become hard and scaly, and his eyes have developed x-ray vision. He sometimes wears coveralls that bare his arms and part of his chest but his favorite outfit is a Hawaiian shirt that he wears while "catching some rays." "Radiation bathing" is the Duke's version of sunbathing and recharges his radioactive powers. Sidekick Leadsuit's name describes his attire. He wears a full radiation suit and helmet to protect himself from his radioactive boss - not to mention the danger of exposure in their uranium mine hideout. (Duke Nukem)

03-04-2006, 02:49 PM	#2
Ivan	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi Isn't that Ted Turner's Duke Nukem version?

03-04-2006, 03:15 PM	#3
KaiserSoze	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi Absolutely has nothing to do with 3drealm's "Duke Nukem" trademarked character. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjimMO2SdE

03-04-2006, 03:44 PM	#4
Commando Nukem	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi I believe there was a law-suit or some form of legal action taken against that by 3D realms wasnt there? __________________ Open Maw Productions

03-04-2006, 04:11 PM	#6
Kalki	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi Wasn't there a compromise that since they were on two seperate mediums, they could coexist? I don't think this applies to the DN movie, does it? __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

03-04-2006, 04:59 PM	#7
Kristian Joensen	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi No that is no compromise that is how trademark law works, trademarks are divided into many categories games and movies begin part of 2 different categories. Micki! a couple of comments to your post: 1. This concerns trademarks not copyrights, two widely different things. 2. I believe the orginal Duke game was named Duke Nukum because of a some "overseas" character not the charcter from Captain Planet. 3. I beleive Turner Broadcasting sued 3D Realms/Apogee not the other way around Kalki, no it wouldn't be different with the Duke movie because: 1. The test of violation in trademark law is if the concerned products/services are "confusingly similar". 2. Captain Planet was abonded along time ago 3. I don't think the Duke Nukem character from Captain Planet has acquired " Secondary meaning" that is it isn't what you think about when you hear "Duke Nukem". 4. Duke Nukem(By 3DR) is arguably a famous mark. 5. 3D Realms registered trademark "Duke" already covers the category for movies 6. A Captain Planet movie probably wouldn't be called "Duke Nukem" while that likely will be the name or part of the name of the Duke movie. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

03-04-2006, 06:47 PM	#10
someguy2435	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi 3D Realms Duke Nukem > crappy Captain Planet villain Duke Nukem __________________ Things go here. Rabble rabble.

03-04-2006, 10:47 PM	#12
Steve	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi Captain Planet looks like some sort of gay cyborg... with the shiny skin and green hair. GO PLANET!

03-05-2006, 07:09 AM	#14
Cerberus_e	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi So why does 3DR hate Ted Turner? Ted was still the first one to invent the name Duke Nukem.

03-06-2006, 12:18 AM	#19
Gatinater	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi Ted Turner is an ass. I'm Fairly certain Nukem is a real last name anyway. So he may have invented the character, but not the name Duke Nukem. Just Like Max Payne. It might trademarked and the game itself coprighted but thousands of real people actually have the name Maxwell Payne. So the name can be reused but the character and material must be different and the title of the game can't be Max Payne.

03-06-2006, 06:41 AM	#21
Commando Nukem	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information insi hmmm... That sounds like a naming spoof contest to me! __________________ Open Maw Productions

09-03-2013, 05:28 PM	#22
fast-1	Re: Duke Nukem...evil? (Revealing information inside!) Baron Steel. Wow I didn't think this could happen. I must of thought this thread was deleted. __________________ Ha what a day.:D