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Old 06-02-2009, 08:14 PM   #1
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Alright. Since this is my first time posting, It might be hard to take me seriously.
But, I overheard something at E3 today.
""ask pete what order we're going in. still wanting dnf to go last""
ALL BETS ARE LOCKED
ALL WAGERED ON DUKE.
COME GET SOME.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:33 PM   #2
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Did you hear the words Duke Nukem Forever or the letters 'd' 'n' 'f'

cause those could mean ...anything.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:34 PM   #3
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:40 PM   #4
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Did you hear the words Duke Nukem Forever or the letters 'd' 'n' 'f'

cause those could mean ...anything.
Just DNF.
But, if it IS going to be on the last day of E3, which is June 4th, and that's conviently the date set for court, we might still have hope.
Just hold out friends.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:42 PM   #5
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Uh-huh....sure...

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Old 06-02-2009, 08:42 PM   #6
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You can if you wish. June 4th is any other day for me.

Do you even know who those people were? They could've just been talking about what order they're going to see shit and hope DNF is there for last. Anyway, glad you could attend and see some of the stuff that's been going on.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:44 PM   #7
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Those guys bet on Duke:

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Old 06-02-2009, 08:45 PM   #8
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You can if you wish. June 4th is any other day for me.

Do you even know who those people were? They could've just been talking about what order they're going to see shit and hope DNF is there for last. Anyway, glad you could attend and see some of the stuff that's been going on.
Yeah, It was pretty cool.
Red Steel 2 is pretty awesome actually.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:45 PM   #9
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DNF = Did not finish.... Do Not Follow up... Disqualified for Not Finalizing.

It will be impossible to not know when DNF is finished. BULL SHIT!

The next game to replace DUKE... Modern Warfare 2... It looks way more interactive than duke and you know what? They have a deadline. 11.10.09... I'm pissed off at 3drealms lack of leadership. A real leader will have got that game finished and not ruin the careers and their hard work. Sorry George. But you suck.
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:52 PM   #10
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Maybe they nicknamed a friend of theirs DNF because he's never on time.



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Old 06-02-2009, 08:57 PM   #11
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Alright. Since this is my first time posting, It might be hard to take me seriously.
But, I overheard something at E3 today.
""ask pete what order we're going in. still wanting dnf to go last""
ALL BETS ARE LOCKED
ALL WAGERED ON DUKE.
COME GET SOME.
This is probably one of the best, most informative, genuine posts I've read in this forum. Take a bow UltraMan, you are a f**king legend.
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Old 06-02-2009, 09:04 PM   #12
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Well at least be happy that the last 2 games on gamespot presentation are tba, so they can be anything.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:22 PM   #13
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DNF = Did not finish.... Do Not Follow up... Disqualified for Not Finalizing.

It will be impossible to not know when DNF is finished. BULL SHIT!

The next game to replace DUKE... Modern Warfare 2... It looks way more interactive than duke and you know what? They have a deadline. 11.10.09... I'm pissed off at 3drealms lack of leadership. A real leader will have got that game finished and not ruin the careers and their hard work. Sorry George. But you suck.
COD has just as much interactivity as Duke? What drugs are you doing?
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:32 PM   #14
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Yep more interactive. Watch the video for modern warfare 2.

Sure you can't flush toilets, but it looks like an action film. Theres underwater bits. Skuba - reminiscent of duke. Riding vehicles... Reminiscent of 2001 duke... And of course heaps of explosives, very reminiscent of duke. Interactive or not. That game replaces duke because it looks just as cool.

Interactive being - its gonna be a playable game... My new definition of dukes interactivity is this... Pressing the play button in media player. Cause thats all it is and will be. A video. False hope!
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:36 PM   #15
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Yep more interactive. Watch the video for modern warfare 2.

Sure you can't flush toilets, but it looks like an action film. Theres underwater bits. Skuba - reminiscent of duke. Riding vehicles... Reminiscent of 2001 duke... And of course heaps of explosives, very reminiscent of duke. Interactive or not. That game replaces duke because it looks just as cool.

Interactive being - its gonna be a playable game... My new definition of dukes interactivity is this... Pressing the play button in media player. Cause thats all it is and will be. A video. False hope!
What

the

hell???

"ITS MORE INTERACTIVE NO WAIT IT ISNT NO WAIT IT IS I CANZ PLAY IT WAIT NO"

Pick a thought and go with it, you're all over the place.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:39 PM   #16
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The new COD will be just as linear as its predecessors and have zero interactivity. Probably have infinite guys as well. I'm sorry but COD's single player has always been terrible, with no interactivity. I don't know what you define interactivity as, but I guarantee it won't have anything that fits within my definition of it. It will be just one big scripted sequence after another.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:41 PM   #17
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Yep more interactive. Watch the video for modern warfare 2.

Sure you can't flush toilets, but it looks like an action film. Theres underwater bits. Skuba - reminiscent of duke. Riding vehicles... Reminiscent of 2001 duke... And of course heaps of explosives, very reminiscent of duke. Interactive or not. That game replaces duke because it looks just as cool.
You could do all of that crap in Codename Eagle in 1999.
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Old 06-02-2009, 10:55 PM   #18
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I don't know what you guys are expecting. Eating hot dogs?
Duke will never come out. Duke3D wasn't interactive at all. I'm not a COD fan boy, I actualy only started playing when it went modern.

You fan boyz just can't accept duke is nothing but vapowarez now, and will only exist as a video stored on your hard drive that you can play, pause and stop. And thats where I'm getting at. I didn't see anything in the latest leaked video of DNF to be anymore interactive...

And since when is any other single player game not just a horde of scripted events of NPC's?
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:02 PM   #19
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I don't know what you guys are expecting. Eating hot dogs?
Duke will never come out. Duke3D wasn't interactive at all. I'm not a COD fan boy, I actualy only started playing when it went modern.

You fan boyz just can't accept duke is nothing but vapowarez now, and will only exist as a video stored on your hard drive that you can play, pause and stop.
Seems to be how your brain works, playing, pausing, ignoring input, then going again from where you left off incoherently.

You see all those words people posted in between your last post and your most recent one? Usually you're supposed to read those before posting again. I don't see anything in this that wasn't said in your previous post and I really question your purpose in taking up more space with it.
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:23 PM   #20
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Whats with the personal attack? You want make an arguement over points of views?

Opinions... We all have them. At least my brain works. What are you supporting? Based on what?

When I said "you guys" I was addressing everyone who has addressed me.

Since when was anyones posts here anymore than waste of space? Are we meant to amount to something purposeful, I thought this was a forum, for people to say what the **** they want. Like I am. So when you have something to support what I have clearly addressed... Duke wasn't interactive and I firmly believe the new COD is going to be.

If you want to compare each video. Go ahead. Make some intelligent points. Then I'll listen to you.

By the way Derfernet, why should I listen to a newb to the forums. You just joined the forums last month. Wow you're a big supporter... I've been here for years and years. Supporting duke. Believing. I know its easy to "HOPE" when you just joined, but most of us here have been hoping for 8+ years.
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:07 AM   #21
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Um... COD looks okay, but it doesn't look "interactive". I'd call "interactive" Grand Theft Auto.
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:32 AM   #22
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Alright. Since this is my first time posting, It might be hard to take me seriously.
But, I overheard something at E3 today.
""ask pete what order we're going in. still wanting dnf to go last""
ALL BETS ARE LOCKED
ALL WAGERED ON DUKE.
COME GET SOME.
I kept quiet for some time! But E3 is realy my last chance for seeing Duke in the near future! If nothing happens until June 4th, this current DNF build is dead.
And I'm coming back to this very forum when the media train starts for a new DNF build, probably not directly from 3DR anymore....

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Old 06-03-2009, 12:40 PM   #23
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Whats with the personal attack? You want make an arguement over points of views?

Opinions... We all have them. At least my brain works. What are you supporting? Based on what?

When I said "you guys" I was addressing everyone who has addressed me.

Since when was anyones posts here anymore than waste of space? Are we meant to amount to something purposeful, I thought this was a forum, for people to say what the **** they want. Like I am. So when you have something to support what I have clearly addressed... Duke wasn't interactive and I firmly believe the new COD is going to be.

If you want to compare each video. Go ahead. Make some intelligent points. Then I'll listen to you.

By the way Derfernet, why should I listen to a newb to the forums. You just joined the forums last month. Wow you're a big supporter... I've been here for years and years. Supporting duke. Believing. I know its easy to "HOPE" when you just joined, but most of us here have been hoping for 8+ years.
"Whats with the personal attack? You want make an arguement over points of views?"
I'm arguing that your posts are incoherent, points of view have nothing to do with it.

"What are you supporting? Based on what?" Where in any of my posts did I say anything about supporting something? You keep bringing up topics out of thin air with no regard to what has actually been said.

"When I said "you guys" I was addressing everyone who has addressed me." You failed to address anything that anyone said, you merely restated what was in your previous post with an after thought edit about scripted sequences. This is the "waste of space" I was refering to, you merely saying the same thing over and over.

"By the way Derfernet, why should I listen to a newb to the forums. You just joined the forums last month." You can not honestly tell me you have no idea how stupid that sounds. "I WON'T LISTEN TO YOU CAUSE YOU'RE NEW NANNNER NANNER NANNER" You MUST be 12. It's a forum, not a secret society, get over yourself.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:15 PM   #24
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Alright. Since this is my first time posting, It might be hard to take me seriously.
But, I overheard something at E3 today.
""ask pete what order we're going in. still wanting dnf to go last""
ALL BETS ARE LOCKED
ALL WAGERED ON DUKE.
COME GET SOME.
We believe you that you heard this voice....the good thing with schizophrenia is that you are never alone... (no offense, just kidding...)

Arguments against that:

1) 3d realms since 2001 firmly stated that they will never attend E3 for DNF and every thread that attempted to suggest otherwise was locked in seconds.They were really annoyed even at the mentioning of DNF and E3 in the same sentence.

2)Doesn't this presentation need a lot of preparation and a considerable amount of work? Who would do that? There are about 3-4 people left if am not mistaken...

3) The first hearing is on the same day, and i assume george and scott are very busy with it.

Arguments in favour :

1) George in his latest twitter shows interest in E3, besides the fact that they disdained E3 all the previous years,

2) Maybe it is a desparate way of finding investors for DNF


Anyway, i don't think DNF showing or not showing up in E3 isn't that important. Finding money and a dev team really fast is much more important and unfortunately i don't see that happening...
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:23 PM   #25
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Maybe they nicknamed a friend of theirs DNF because he's never on time.



...I'm sorry 3d realms, I love you. :[
OK I laughed at this one.
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:14 PM   #26
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Alright. Since this is my first time posting, It might be hard to take me seriously.
But, I overheard something at E3 today.
""ask pete what order we're going in. still wanting dnf to go last""
ALL BETS ARE LOCKED
ALL WAGERED ON DUKE.
COME GET SOME.
Prepare yourself for... A total Letdown!
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:27 PM   #27
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ok... im new here,#1 hi everybody,
my input!

after 12 yrs (keepin' an eye every 2-3 years)HOPE is still something i HOPE FOR ,but nothig much else for now.
i am a fan of Duke and i am sorry that all this thigs are happening to 3DR ,
u have to wake up and smell the roses...and the roses aren't smelling nice at the moment for Duke.
but (there's always BUT)
reading through a sea of threads,posts and opinions ,i got the felling that
almost (if not all of u ) will buy/acquire and play DNF when/if it will be released
maybe,someday ,in a galaxy far far away...
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:41 PM   #28
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Prepare yourself for... A total Letdown!
I'm so psyched!

...wait
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:44 PM   #29
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Alright. Since this is my first time posting, It might be hard to take me seriously.
But, I overheard something at E3 today.
""ask pete what order we're going in. still wanting dnf to go last""
ALL BETS ARE LOCKED
ALL WAGERED ON DUKE.
COME GET SOME.
can you tell us who said this and in what context you heard it?
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:51 PM   #30
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reading through a sea of threads,posts and opinions ,i got the felling that
almost (if not all of u ) will buy/acquire and play DNF when/if it will be released
maybe,someday ,in a galaxy far far away...
Hi VrX, welcome to the forums....

i think everybody here, and i mean everybody (haters, trolls, people saying "it's over,don't be in denial") !! have still a little hope inside them that DNF will actually come out eventually, some day.....

unfortunately i have witnessed a similar situation for another great game (Theseis ->http://www.theseisgame.com/), where i personally now that it is cancelled for good (some of the former developers and managers were my friends) but there are still people in its forums who still believe it will come out and sometimes get angry ("where is our game?,"...you promised us...") because there wasn't an official announcement...Same problems....they were perfectionists and they ran out of money....they were looking for investors for many months but with no luck....

Another scaring similarity with that case was the departure of the main web site administrator (like joe) some months before the unofficial cancellation and the statement "that doesn't mean anything, the development is continued as usual"

this is all deja vu...it's so sad..
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Old 06-03-2009, 05:48 PM   #31
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was DNF ever a real project or were these guys just defrauding investors to keep their jobs indefinitely.

I am also amused at the iron hand they used in demanding that WID not ever be questioned. well i looks like WID stands for What Is DNF suckers.

I am sad to see Duke likely die. there is a shred of hope that maybe someone with dedication and project management skills will be able to resurect DNF From the ashes.

Personally I think there is still a hell of a market for this product and as long as the product is reasonably mature maybe it can be brought back to life.


Personally though I think the lack of Promotional images and media indicate that WID was just a cover for the fact that there is no product at all.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:05 PM   #32
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We believe you that you heard this voice....the good thing with schizophrenia is that you are never alone... (no offense, just kidding...)

Arguments against that:

1) 3d realms since 2001 firmly stated that they will never attend E3 for DNF and every thread that attempted to suggest otherwise was locked in seconds.They were really annoyed even at the mentioning of DNF and E3 in the same sentence.

2)Doesn't this presentation need a lot of preparation and a considerable amount of work? Who would do that? There are about 3-4 people left if am not mistaken...

3) The first hearing is on the same day, and i assume george and scott are very busy with it.

Arguments in favour :

1) George in his latest twitter shows interest in E3, besides the fact that they disdained E3 all the previous years,

2) Maybe it is a desparate way of finding investors for DNF


Anyway, i don't think DNF showing or not showing up in E3 isn't that important. Finding money and a dev team really fast is much more important and unfortunately i don't see that happening...
Doesen't nessiccarly mean 3DR will be there.
Take2 is confirmed to be there.
Also, I still find it hard to beleive that this court date is oh so convenitly placed on the last day of E3.
One more thing. have we heard anything from the actual courts themselves? All of this information has just came from 3DR and Take2.
Just hold out a bit longer folks. We will see tomorrow.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:10 PM   #33
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Personally though I think the lack of Promotional images and media indicate that WID was just a cover for the fact that there is no product at all.
That's definitely not true....They were a lot of respectable people outside 3drealms who saw it in action...Also, many artists and developers that worked on the project are really too top notch and very "famous" to be part of this scam.What you say is an insult for them and their work...

Take a look at their portfolio (dnf and other) and you will understand their high quality...
not to mention Jeremy soule's and John st john involvement ....

Quote:
Also, I still find it hard to beleive that this court date is oh so convenitly placed on the last day of E3.
.
no it is not coincidence... the judge is a DNF fan!!
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:15 PM   #34
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Doesen't nessiccarly mean 3DR will be there.
Take2 is confirmed to be there.
Also, I still find it hard to beleive that this court date is oh so convenitly placed on the last day of E3.
One more thing. have we heard anything from the actual courts themselves? All of this information has just came from 3DR and Take2.
Just hold out a bit longer folks. We will see tomorrow.
http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivil/FCASMain
on "party search" search for plaintiffs "Take Two" and you'll see a suit was officially filed on may 12th.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:18 PM   #35
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http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcivil/FCASMain
on "party search" search for plaintiffs "Take Two" and you'll see a suit was officially filed on may 12th.
Well ****.
MAYBE THE JUDGE IS IN ON IT.
I WANT TO BELEIVE.
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Well ****.
MAYBE THE JUDGE IS IN ON IT.
I WANT TO BELEIVE.


Just had to do it. XD
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:38 PM   #37
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Just had to do it. XD
Exactly what I was thinking.
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Old 06-03-2009, 06:38 PM   #38
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hai guiz DNF will nots cum out DNF = Did Not Finish LOL guiz!!! just wanted 2 com n and tell u all in case u didnt no

LOLO!

ill B bak 2 sai it agains!


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Old 06-03-2009, 07:11 PM   #39
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Fix'd
I don't understand. What's the purpose of changing the picture to misspell the word "believe"?
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