Where can I download the whole Roch series?

[crazyman]

Where can I download all the Roch maps? Is there like an official site?

[HellFire]

http://www.dukeroch.net

[Puritan]

This is where you should go:

http://www.duke4.net/download.php?view.3

[Mikko Sandt]

For reviews check http://msdn.planetduke.gamespy.com

[crazyman]

BTW, is PAschul still working in Roch9? I have been anxious to learn more whether more levels in the saga will be released.

[Mikko Sandt]

Originally Posted by crazyman

BTW, is PAschul still working in Roch9? I have been anxious to learn more whether more levels in the saga will be released.

Well there were some disputes over a map that was released some years ago called "Dogville" which was very much like Roch maps. It was released & reviewed at MSDN (scored well above 90) and Pascal got pissed off (the map has since then been removed but I still have it). So I'm not sure if he has worked on any new maps since.

[TheLazenby]

I'd love to get my hands on Dogville! My email address is knawdas@hotmail.com, please send it!

I'm eagerly awaiting Roch9... I used to talk to Pascal quite a bit (mainly to learn where all the little easter eggs were!) and even included a little tribute to him in a map I made of my house, which unfortunately never got released. (It's finished, but I realized too late that some of the art I used was from a fan-made ART pack, and I wouldn't know who to give credit to!)

[Telee]

Yeah, Dogville would be pretty cool to play. I always thought it was made by some random jerks but when I found out it was by Taivo I became interested in it because I know his style (it's good).

I'm eagerly awaiting Roch9

It was canceled - because of Dogville. It had striking similiarities to Roch and Pascal got upset about it. I even heard that Taivo had Roch opened on another build.exe and was looking at it while constructing his map.

[TheLazenby]

CANCELLED?! Damn... why would you cancel something because you were pissed at somebody? (Though I guess I can see his point...)

There's another Roch 'tribute' called Roch Island, which actually doesn't resemble the Roch maps at all and isn't that great... it's mainly "let's throw as many enemies in one place as possible." Come on, it's not a tribute unless it has excessive secret messages

[Geoffrey]

Speaking of tributes and secret messages - I made a petition booth in fbsp003, and clearly all the dukes in the world really want pascal to continue mapping

[Thedutchjelle]

Lol!

Maybe they shouldn't write on the wall, but on a computer instead.. and then mail it to pascal himself.

[Steve]

I've never played the Roch series. I've read many things about them, though.

[Hellbound]

Steve, you shouldn't exist

[Sang]

Originally Posted by Steve

I've never played the Roch series. I've read many things about them, though.

WTF - They're awesome. Roch 5 & Roch 6 (along with ADG episode) were the first user maps (by other people) I've ever played and they really rock.

I'm thinking of replaying several user maps I played like 6 years ago for the first time sometime soon (like the Damned Dam or Aquapark)

[Bonesnapper]

I found Dogville to be completely dissappointing, especially since Pascal quit because of it.

[Telee]

Originally Posted by Bonesnapper

I found Dogville to be completely dissappointing, especially since Pascal quit because of it.

I heard it was quite good and got a high score on MSDN, apart from the fact that it's a ripoff of Roch. Dunno though.

[TheLazenby]

Wellll, where do we download Dogville? I wanna play!!

I should get in touch with Pascal again... maybe hearing from a Roch fanatic again would help.

[Telee]

It would be really awesome if we did convince him, maybe seeing that Duke is still alive and all the new maps that exist today will inspire him to build again

[Bonesnapper]

Originally Posted by Telee

It would be really awesome if we did convince him, maybe seeing that Duke is still alive and all the new maps that exist today will inspire him to build again

I doubt it. Its been like what, 3 years?

[Telee]

Hey, things happen. Dukebert and Maarten Pinxten returned once - they didn't map but they visited to see what was going on in the community.

[DavoX]

Originally Posted by Bonesnapper

I doubt it. Its been like what, 3 years?

I came back to duke and made my Buenos Aires explosive Remake after 5 years of absence.

[Puritan]

Go ahead and mail Pascal.
I did it last year and he was very kind and replied fast.
He told me he didn't like the ' hires stuff ' too much. He'd rather like the classic Duke.
Anyway he had a minor contribution to the JF port last year. So he is
at least a little bit into Duke.

I didn't ask him if he's into mapping. But last year Alejandro from AMC released a kick ass map based on classic Duke so I can't see that there is a technical reason for not do some mapping.

-Seeing a ROCH 9 would be the greatest happening next to the release of DNF.

[TheLazenby]

Well, I talked to Pascal. Both ROCH9 and ROCH_SC2 exist, but neither of them are finished. (They're both between 75-80% done.)

He said that he no longer has Build, but may finish them someday...

[Orna fulsamee]

Hopefully roch9 gives the sagging duke community a swift kick in the hiney

[TheLazenby]

Yeah, he assumed the Duke community was fading because he stopped getting countless emails about Roch 9 :-)

And Orno, if that's a stuffed Cacodemon in your avatar, I'LL BUY IT!! My niece would love that thing! :-)

[Bonesnapper]

We stopped emailing him because we didnt want to bug him, further hindering the release! D=

[TheLazenby]

I just played Dogville.... oh yeah, that's DEFINITELY a Roch ripoff. You can tell Pascal's influence was there even from the first room.

Though I noticed one thing was missing - all the random secret messages that Pascal loves to stick in. But the guy must've been considering that... there's a bunch of little DNCLIP-only locations that are just dying to put their two cents in

[Telee]

Originally Posted by TheLazenby

There's another Roch 'tribute' called Roch Island, which actually doesn't resemble the Roch maps at all and isn't that great... it's mainly "let's throw as many enemies in one place as possible." Come on, it's not a tribute unless it has excessive secret messages

Well, after Pascal's reaction to Dogville, I doubt he would be very happy if it was a Roch clone

[Bonesnapper]

Originally Posted by Telee

Well, after Pascal's reaction to Dogville, I doubt he would be very happy if it was a Roch clone

Pascal's original qualm was that no credits were given. I think if it was specifically called a Roch Tribute, he wouldnt care.

[Telee]

Yeah, I suppose.

Roch Island is actually a great map despite having little resemblance to Roch; the design is great and everything but it didn't take advantage of Duke's original textures in new creative ways like Roch did.

[TheLazenby]

I hate, hate, hate Roch Island. Too many enemies, too goddamn big.

And in that funky little song that replaces "Born To Be Wild", WHAT are they saying?!

[Telee]

By the way;

http://amc.planetduke.gamespy.com/sm...p?topic=4200.0

This thread contains a .zip that has some comparisons between areas in Dogville and Roch, for anyone interested.