PAL display problems

necrophilissimo · 06-08-2006, 01:34 PM

Cheers!

I just want to point out one DARN annoying problem I've been running into lately on 360; My TV uses PAL standard, running on 50hz. This week I ran TWICE to notification, that the games do not run on that setting and require 60hz mode, first with Live Arcade game, then with Hitman demo. And everyone knows what happens if 50hz TV goes on 60hz - flickering. Slight, true, but when you watch it for several hours it's painkiller time.

Not saying Prey has any that sort of problems, but just make sure it doesn't. I'm pretty sure I'll gravity flip my TV and Xbox out of the window if can't get to play Prey Demo on 22nd

PS: I know my TV is obsolote, but I'm hanging onto it 'till next year, financial issue, can't afford to buy good enough HD screen when I'm buying games like crazy

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06-08-2006, 01:50 PM

What country are you from?

-Maniac

Syphadeus · 06-08-2006, 01:57 PM

In my experience, flickering is usually eliminated by switching to 60Hz, rather than it being the other way around. I don't own an Xbox360, but when I play my Xbox games, I ALWAYS set the display option to PAL60.

Without it, games usually look jerky. Fable, for instance, is significantly smoother running in this mode compared to 50Hz. This is down to the fact that most games are usually optimised for 60Hz these days anyway, and it's just lazily downscaled for PAL releases.

I use my Xbox with official SCART connection pack and a 60Hz capable TV and don't have any problems, either with flickering or with headaches after prolonged periods of play. Perhaps there's an issue with the TV set or the connection you're using that's causing this to happen when you choose to run at 60Hz?

Parkar · 06-08-2006, 02:54 PM

ehh, He did say his tv didn't suport 60Hz.

hell-angel · 06-09-2006, 12:53 AM

My solution, buy a PC monitor, you can have a nice 19" CRT for 100 Euros nowadays. (if you can find them) and they have a better vision then LCD IMO.

necrophilissimo · 06-09-2006, 01:51 AM

I'm from Finland. Yes, my TV doesn't support 60hz. And 19" monitor really isn't a choice; I'd rather stick to 32" inches of widescreen

hell-angel · 06-09-2006, 02:31 AM

hehe, well it was only a suggestion, at least you would have HD in a high refresh rate

And you could also go for a 22".

Decker · 06-09-2006, 02:43 AM

A 32 inch widescreen that doesn't support 60Hz? I think you've been ripped off. How old is it? The only solution I guess is to just bite your lip and suffer until you get that new TV.

necrophilissimo · 06-09-2006, 06:22 AM

It's old, something like Halo-old. I bought it same time I bought the original Xbox. In fact it's not nearly as bad as one would suspect. It's Panasonic, so the image quality is top-of-the-tube-TV-line.

I'm still lingering a bit, waiting the HD screen prices to drop a bit. I was first going for HD video projector, but I read somewhere the lamp life-span in hardcore-gaming is quit short - and the lamps do cost as much as one 360.

Phayzon · 06-09-2006, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hell-angel

My solution, buy a PC monitor, you can have a nice 19" CRT for 100 Euros nowadays. (if you can find them) and they have a better vision then LCD IMO.

Or just the 360 VGA cable on his current monitor...

degicank dot comr · 06-22-2006, 12:34 AM

you can try a pal scan convertor. They are about 25eu's on ebay.uk

06-08-2006, 01:50 PM	#2
Maniac536 Guest	Re: PAL display problems What country are you from? -Maniac

06-08-2006, 01:34 PM	#1
necrophilissimo	PAL display problems Cheers! I just want to point out one DARN annoying problem I've been running into lately on 360; My TV uses PAL standard, running on 50hz. This week I ran TWICE to notification, that the games do not run on that setting and require 60hz mode, first with Live Arcade game, then with Hitman demo. And everyone knows what happens if 50hz TV goes on 60hz - flickering. Slight, true, but when you watch it for several hours it's painkiller time. Not saying Prey has any that sort of problems, but just make sure it doesn't. I'm pretty sure I'll gravity flip my TV and Xbox out of the window if can't get to play Prey Demo on 22nd PS: I know my TV is obsolote, but I'm hanging onto it 'till next year, financial issue, can't afford to buy good enough HD screen when I'm buying games like crazy ) __________________ ____________ necrophilissimo :: www.tagap.net

06-08-2006, 01:57 PM	#3
Syphadeus	Re: PAL display problems In my experience, flickering is usually eliminated by switching to 60Hz, rather than it being the other way around. I don't own an Xbox360, but when I play my Xbox games, I ALWAYS set the display option to PAL60. Without it, games usually look jerky. Fable, for instance, is significantly smoother running in this mode compared to 50Hz. This is down to the fact that most games are usually optimised for 60Hz these days anyway, and it's just lazily downscaled for PAL releases. I use my Xbox with official SCART connection pack and a 60Hz capable TV and don't have any problems, either with flickering or with headaches after prolonged periods of play. Perhaps there's an issue with the TV set or the connection you're using that's causing this to happen when you choose to run at 60Hz?

06-08-2006, 02:54 PM	#4
Parkar	Re: PAL display problems ehh, He did say his tv didn't suport 60Hz. __________________ Action Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack HRP wiki: A HRP development tool

06-09-2006, 12:53 AM	#5
hell-angel	Re: PAL display problems My solution, buy a PC monitor, you can have a nice 19" CRT for 100 Euros nowadays. (if you can find them) and they have a better vision then LCD IMO.

06-09-2006, 01:51 AM	#6
necrophilissimo	Re: PAL display problems I'm from Finland. Yes, my TV doesn't support 60hz. And 19" monitor really isn't a choice; I'd rather stick to 32" inches of widescreen __________________ ____________ necrophilissimo :: www.tagap.net

06-09-2006, 02:31 AM	#7
hell-angel	Re: PAL display problems hehe, well it was only a suggestion, at least you would have HD in a high refresh rate And you could also go for a 22".

06-09-2006, 02:43 AM	#8
Decker	Re: PAL display problems A 32 inch widescreen that doesn't support 60Hz? I think you've been ripped off. How old is it? The only solution I guess is to just bite your lip and suffer until you get that new TV. __________________ Wii FC : 2494-2649-5817-0179 PSN ID: DeckerFI

06-09-2006, 06:22 AM	#9
necrophilissimo	Re: PAL display problems It's old, something like Halo-old. I bought it same time I bought the original Xbox. In fact it's not nearly as bad as one would suspect. It's Panasonic, so the image quality is top-of-the-tube-TV-line. I'm still lingering a bit, waiting the HD screen prices to drop a bit. I was first going for HD video projector, but I read somewhere the lamp life-span in hardcore-gaming is quit short - and the lamps do cost as much as one 360. __________________ ____________ necrophilissimo :: www.tagap.net

06-22-2006, 12:34 AM	#11
degicank dot comr	Re: PAL display problems you can try a pal scan convertor. They are about 25eu's on ebay.uk __________________ Free Prey Download here Degicank.com Free Music here Free Video's here