Enhancing Duke's Spritely Appearance part 2 - Page 3

AlgorithMan · 02-16-2006, 05:48 AM

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NightFright said:
The more it moves, the better it looks.

usually not... because after the third image it jumps back to the first one which makes it difficult to create "smooth" animations you often get jumps in them =( 3 frames is a very low count to create animation at all...

about the screwheads: the frame is from 4597 by piterplus - I used it to have uniform displays... damnit! I just noticed that in the original tiles these displays had different frames.

Piterplus · 02-16-2006, 08:49 AM

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AlgorithMan said:
about the screwheads: the frame is from 4597 by piterplus - I used it to have uniform displays... damnit! I just noticed that in the original tiles these displays had different frames.

I used frames from hrp textures also.
But you should make those frames orange colored, like original.
About animation - maybe it is possible to make sphere turning?
And add upon it rocket blasts from outer space instead of original moving green dots?

AlgorithMan · 02-16-2006, 04:36 PM

I don't think that's a good idea - I think the front sphere represents the moon and the glowing, moving dots mark the landing coordinates like on an airport...

about the turning: I thought about that too, but it would turn WAY to fast (it would turn 360° in about 4 seconds - the moon turns 360° in one month ^^)

L2theKING · 02-28-2006, 01:54 AM

Here is some new stuff!!

Most of them are not used ingame but I tought that it could be interesting to make them Hi res anyway!

And here is one of the first texture I made.
It was looking bad ingame so I did some fixing!

jimbob · 02-28-2006, 03:34 AM

they are used in the 4th episode IIRC, and i`ve used them in a few of my maps so its a good thing to see them high res now

and they look good

Impact · 02-28-2006, 10:55 AM

Here are my first High-res Textures:

Tile #58:

Tile #606 (has already been made, but originally its the "destroyed" Version of 58):

The switches 1142 and 1143 in E2|L2 (as far as i remember)

any critics or comments?

DavoX · 02-28-2006, 11:17 AM

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Bloody impact said:
Here are my first High-res Textures:

Tile #58:

Tile #606 (has already been made, but originally its the "destroyed" Version of 58):

The switches 1142 and 1143 in E2|L2 (as far as i remember)

any critics or comments?

The problem with #58 and #606 is that originally those are "stored" space suits, which mean they're hanging on something like in a closet or something, i dont know if you get my point.... your pictures look like if the guy is floating in outer space already, maybe if you use a standing spacesuit instead of a floating one?.

The switch looks good for a start but i think it needs a little bit more detail and you could make it look a little bit rusted or something like that, it looks too colorful and "Happy" IMO. And i would scrap and redo that "snot" thingy in the "open" version of the switch and the green spotlight in the middle shouldn't be so shinny IMO.

Impact · 02-28-2006, 12:47 PM

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DavoX said:
The problem with #58 and #606 is that originally those are "stored" space suits, which mean they're hanging on something like in a closet or something, i dont know if you get my point.... your pictures look like if the guy is floating in outer space already, maybe if you use a standing spacesuit instead of a floating one?.

you mean i should choose a suit were both feets are look like they are standing on the bottom?

But if you see the original 606 it has only one foot:
http://cubed.dk/nobody/dnstuff/dn2do/view.php
so i didn´t think it is able to "stand". But I am searching for a better texture for that (and i am thinking about to make the 606 dirtier than the current one). Do somebody know in which level i can see the suits or can make a Screenshot of it, so i can see how it looks in the Game.

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DavoX said:
The switch looks good for a start but i think it needs a little bit more detail and you could make it look a little bit rusted or something like that, it looks too colorful and "Happy" IMO. And i would scrap and redo that "snot" thingy in the "open" version of the switch and the green spotlight in the middle shouldn't be so shinny IMO.

Ok let me see what i can do

. If somebody has a tutorial for real-looking dust in PS please post it

Luigi · 02-28-2006, 01:39 PM

I think those 4 tiles should be models.

Impact · 02-28-2006, 03:55 PM

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Luigi said:
I think those 4 tiles should be models.

i also think that, but i think it would be difficult to make the Switch-model in a Resource-low way, but i am working on it.

Mr.Fibbles · 02-28-2006, 06:08 PM

that switch model and the space suit for that matter have potential for hig poly count, especially the suit. the switch would be hard because of the whole rotating seperate triangles for the shutters, i think that can be donw but it would be hard
other than that i like the textures, the switch does need to be dirtier though,more grimmy

L2theKING · 03-01-2006, 02:59 AM

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Mr.Fibbles said:
the switch would be hard because of the whole rotating seperate triangles for the shutters, i think that can be donw but it would be hard

We could save alote of time and trouble if we just model the switch frame and then make a "two times rotating texture" for the triangles for the shutters. We could also use the work that Impact done on his "flat texture" just need to add some dirt and that's all.

I think we really dont need to model every single triangles!!

Impact · 03-01-2006, 10:44 AM

Here are the "dirtier" Versions of Tile 1142 and 1143:

Do they look better now?

DavoX · 03-01-2006, 10:46 AM

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Impact said:
Here are the "dirtier" Versions of Tile 1142 and 1143:

Do they look better now?

It looks way much better now, i can see you took my advice wisely, but you forgot about that "snot" thing

, maybe if you delete the left part of it and leave the middle part?.

Impact · 03-01-2006, 11:08 AM

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DavoX said:
It looks way much better now, i can see you took my advice wisely, but you forgot about that "snot" thing

, maybe if you delete the left part of it and leave the middle part?.

done!

DavoX · 03-01-2006, 01:14 PM

Great! it looks really good now

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Impact · 03-01-2006, 01:57 PM

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DavoX said:

Great! it looks really good now

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Thank you

. It wouldn t look so good without you

NightFright · 03-01-2006, 04:00 PM

Well maybe I´m blind, but those new "dirty" switches don´t show up in my browser.

Impact · 03-01-2006, 04:26 PM

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NightFright said:
Well maybe I´m blind, but those new "dirty" switches don´t show up in my browser.

Well use this links:

http://www.bad-squad.de/banner/sprite_1142.png
http://www.bad-squad.de/banner/sprite_1143.png

Boinky · 03-01-2006, 04:46 PM

Im not to sure how the original looks(No duke installed

), but the black lines on the switches really stand out. Other than that it looks fantastic!

Impact · 03-01-2006, 05:04 PM

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Boinky said:
Im not to sure how the original looks(No duke installed

), but the black lines on the switches really stand out. Other than that it looks fantastic!

i think i have fixed that problem now. The original textures look like this:

http://cubed.dk/nobody/dnstuff/dn2do...ow=256&id=1142
http://cubed.dk/nobody/dnstuff/dn2do...ow=256&id=1143

(Thx to Killd a ton for his great todo-list)

Raziel-chan · 03-01-2006, 05:43 PM

Well... It looks pretty nice, but comparing with the original, I think that:

1. It should be octagonal, with the vertical and horizontal parts of the metal ring thicker than the diagonal ones.

2. The color of the metal parts should be darker, more like dark-gray than this.

3. I think that the closed state new version's meeting point of the triangular parts is a little off to the left and up. It should be at the center.

4. The triangular parts should be green and different in shape - I mean more 'life-like', and differently shaded (especially in the open state.)

5. The opening in the open state should be bigger, such as the green light at the center.

6. There should be more those slimy hanging things and they should look like if they are hanging from the triangular parts, not somewhere inside (they should go lower to the sides).

But, as for a start, it's great. I draw very good but for some strange reason can't do computer graphic at all.

L2theKING · 03-01-2006, 05:48 PM

Here is the phone :

Enjoy!!!

L2theKING · 03-01-2006, 05:51 PM

Here is the 4569_Jollymeal :

The file is attached...
Just download it and give it a try

....Enjoy pals!

TerminX · 03-01-2006, 06:11 PM

I like the phone.

NightFright · 03-01-2006, 06:25 PM

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Impact said:
Well use this links:

http://www.bad-squad.de/banner/sprite_1142.png
http://www.bad-squad.de/banner/sprite_1143.png

Errr... these turn up as blank pages for me. Or at least they are not larger than 1x1 pixels.

Mr.Fibbles · 03-01-2006, 07:34 PM

work for me.

Besli · 03-01-2006, 08:39 PM

Really good L2theKING, I like 'em both.
But shouldn't they be in the modelling thread?

I found a nice meat cleaver model:
http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33544

Ding Bat · 03-02-2006, 02:21 AM

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NightFright said:

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Impact said:
Well use this links:

Errr... these turn up as blank pages for me. Or at least they are not larger than 1x1 pixels.

Works for me, but the transparent portion is messy.

NightFright · 03-02-2006, 05:32 AM

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Impact said:
Well use this links:

http://www.bad-squad.de/banner/sprite_1142.png
http://www.bad-squad.de/banner/sprite_1143.png

Perhaps you could just upload those two pics somewhere else? When I download these (even with download manager), all I get is 1x1 pixel pngs, worthless.

Impact · 03-02-2006, 05:32 AM

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NightFright said:

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Impact said:
Well use this links:

Errr... these turn up as blank pages for me. Or at least they are not larger than 1x1 pixels.

okay i think your browser is messed up so i have zipped them:

http://www.bloody-impact.com/downloa.../1142_1143.zip

Piterplus · 03-04-2006, 07:28 AM

http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/download/1174.png

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Impact said:
okay i think your browser is messed up so i have zipped them:

http://www.bloody-impact.com/downloa.../1142_1143.zip

Anybody noticed that shatters center in 1142 is off center?

Impact · 03-04-2006, 07:48 AM

Yes, should be fixed in the 3d-Version

Besli · 03-04-2006, 11:29 AM

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Piterplus said:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/download/1174.png

Nice, don't forget the broken one (1175)!

Piterplus · 03-04-2006, 03:04 PM

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Besli said:

Nice, don't forget the broken one (1175)!

1175 used in none maps

GodBlitZor · 03-04-2006, 06:26 PM

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Piterplus said:

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Besli said:

Nice, don't forget the broken one (1175)!

1175 used in none maps

Still, it'd take about five minutes. PLEASE!?

AlgorithMan · 03-04-2006, 06:28 PM

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Piterplus said:

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Besli said:

Nice, don't forget the broken one (1175)!

1175 used in none maps

but I've seen it in many usermaps...
I think we should do all the textures, even the ones that are not in official maps...

L2theKING · 03-04-2006, 09:23 PM

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AlgorithMan said:
I think we should do all the textures, even the ones that are not in official maps...

I'm agree here...
Duke 3d is runing out sinse almost 10 years...
there is alot of usermap outthere witch means that
our first priority is to finish the ingame used tiles but then We have the duty to finish the work by respect for all those mapers over the world who spent alot of time to make some great maps.

We then eventualy should extand our work to remake the 3 officials add-on: Duke it out in DC, Carebean and Nuc Winter...

By the way, count me in to finish work!

Ding Bat · 03-05-2006, 01:05 AM

I'm with you King .

Piterplus · 03-05-2006, 04:06 AM

Indeed it was couple of minutes work

http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/download/1175.png

02-16-2006, 04:36 PM	#83
AlgorithMan	Re: Tiles 533-535 I don't think that's a good idea - I think the front sphere represents the moon and the glowing, moving dots mark the landing coordinates like on an airport... about the turning: I thought about that too, but it would turn WAY to fast (it would turn 360° in about 4 seconds - the moon turns 360° in one month ^^) __________________ I have discovered a truly wonderful signature, but this margin is too narrow to hold it.

02-28-2006, 01:54 AM	#84
L2theKING	Re: New Stuff Here is some new stuff!! Most of them are not used ingame but I tought that it could be interesting to make them Hi res anyway! And here is one of the first texture I made. It was looking bad ingame so I did some fixing! __________________ Guess who's working for Ubisoft now !?

02-28-2006, 03:34 AM	#85
jimbob	Re: New Stuff they are used in the 4th episode IIRC, and i`ve used them in a few of my maps so its a good thing to see them high res now and they look good __________________ "Check out the polygons on jimbob's girlfriend!" killerbyte "Jimbob, you're a god-damned genius" rollingbrass "You are a god among men" Water12356

02-28-2006, 10:55 AM	#86
Impact	Re: New Stuff Here are my first High-res Textures: Tile #58: Tile #606 (has already been made, but originally its the "destroyed" Version of 58): The switches 1142 and 1143 in E2\|L2 (as far as i remember) any critics or comments? __________________ Can´t wait for the mighty boot ;)

02-28-2006, 01:39 PM	#89
Luigi	Re: New Stuff I think those 4 tiles should be models.

02-28-2006, 06:08 PM	#91
Mr.Fibbles	Re: New Stuff that switch model and the space suit for that matter have potential for hig poly count, especially the suit. the switch would be hard because of the whole rotating seperate triangles for the shutters, i think that can be donw but it would be hard other than that i like the textures, the switch does need to be dirtier though,more grimmy __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

03-01-2006, 10:44 AM	#93
Impact	Re: New Stuff Here are the "dirtier" Versions of Tile 1142 and 1143: Do they look better now? __________________ Can´t wait for the mighty boot ;)

03-01-2006, 01:14 PM	#96
DavoX	Re: New Stuff Great! it looks really good now . __________________ My Facebook Page for Game Design, Check it out! My Youtube Channel, With mapster32 tutorials!

03-01-2006, 04:00 PM	#98
NightFright	Re: New Stuff Well maybe I´m blind, but those new "dirty" switches don´t show up in my browser. __________________ Duke3D HRP Update Pack Duke3D HRP Wiki To-Do List

03-01-2006, 04:46 PM	#100
Boinky	Re: New Stuff Im not to sure how the original looks(No duke installed ), but the black lines on the switches really stand out. Other than that it looks fantastic! __________________ If you give a man a jingle, he'll jingle for a day. If you teach a man to jingle, he'll jingle all the way! I got a fever. And the only prescription, is more cowbell.

03-01-2006, 05:43 PM	#102
Raziel-chan	Re: New Stuff Well... It looks pretty nice, but comparing with the original, I think that: 1. It should be octagonal, with the vertical and horizontal parts of the metal ring thicker than the diagonal ones. 2. The color of the metal parts should be darker, more like dark-gray than this. 3. I think that the closed state new version's meeting point of the triangular parts is a little off to the left and up. It should be at the center. 4. The triangular parts should be green and different in shape - I mean more 'life-like', and differently shaded (especially in the open state.) 5. The opening in the open state should be bigger, such as the green light at the center. 6. There should be more those slimy hanging things and they should look like if they are hanging from the triangular parts, not somewhere inside (they should go lower to the sides). But, as for a start, it's great. I draw very good but for some strange reason can't do computer graphic at all.

03-01-2006, 06:11 PM	#105
TerminX	Re: New Stuff I like the phone. __________________ EDuke32 \| Duke4.net forums, the largest Duke Nukem 3D community on the Internet Visit #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!

03-01-2006, 07:34 PM	#107
Mr.Fibbles	Re: New Stuff work for me. __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

03-01-2006, 08:39 PM	#108
Besli	Re: New Stuff Really good L2theKING, I like 'em both. But shouldn't they be in the modelling thread? I found a nice meat cleaver model: http://www.cdg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33544

03-04-2006, 07:48 AM	#113
Impact	Re: New Stuff Yes, should be fixed in the 3d-Version __________________ Can´t wait for the mighty boot ;)

03-05-2006, 01:05 AM	#119
Ding Bat	Re: New Stuff I'm with you King .

03-05-2006, 04:06 AM	#120
Piterplus	Re: New Stuff Indeed it was couple of minutes work http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/download/1175.png __________________ Piterplus's textures and models vault: http://members.lycos.co.uk/piterplus/