Is The Court Case Active or Not?

ultra tree 85! · 01-29-2010, 05:09 PM

The idea that the case is no longer in active status and has been "disposed" (no one has any idea what that could mean in this context) has surfaced several times in this community. During the most recent analysis, several people have concluded that the case is no longer active. There are several questions that come to mind when thinking about this possibility, such as, "Why are George and Scott still referencing the lawsuit and behaving as though it were still a threat?" and "Why haven't any statements come from Take-Two or 3D Realms about the disposal itself?" Personally, I have no idea what to think about anything related to this game anymore, but what's your opinion? Do you think that the court date still exists on the horizon, or is the case "disposed?"

Kristian Joensen · 01-29-2010, 05:13 PM

The case was moved to federal court, is that so hard to understand?

01-29-2010, 05:24 PM

Where is the option for "Pants"?

Duke's New Chainsaw · 01-29-2010, 05:43 PM

o m g

prophecy holder · 01-29-2010, 06:15 PM

Pretty much this.

Conan of Cooma · 01-29-2010, 09:03 PM

What you wrote is so stupid, that everyone who reads it actually becomes more of an idiot. That's how stupid it is.

Eagle · 01-29-2010, 09:12 PM

Is there a name for this fantasy land that some here live in?

Psyrgery · 01-30-2010, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Eagle

Is there a name for this fantasy land that some here live in?

Yes, Denial Land.

prophecy holder · 01-30-2010, 09:29 AM

Thought it was the 3D realms forums.

8IronBob · 01-30-2010, 09:55 AM

Better to hear it straight from George or Scott themselves rather than all these suit websites.

duubhglas · 01-30-2010, 02:08 PM

Course, like if they're going to say anything.

The Commander · 01-30-2010, 02:14 PM

Where is the option for "The Court Case Is A Hoax"?

fast-1 · 01-30-2010, 03:28 PM

A roller coaster toaster.

Conan of Cooma · 01-30-2010, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ultra tree 85!

The idea that the case is no longer in active status and has been "disposed" (no one has any idea what that could mean in this context) has surfaced several times in this community.

Many people have concrete knowledge of what this means. The case was moved to federal court. How were you unable to comprehend this?

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Originally Posted by ultra tree 85!

During the most recent analysis, several people have concluded that the case is no longer active.

Several people are wrong, to a degree so severe you could question their status as a normal, unchallenged human. Which is actually a change, as normally you have several thousand morons on the internet who, despite having evidence to the contrary, often scream "I NOES BETTA".

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Originally Posted by ultra tree 85!

There are several questions that come to mind when thinking about this possibility, such as, "Why are George and Scott still referencing the lawsuit and behaving as though it were still a threat?" and "Why haven't any statements come from Take-Two or 3D Realms about the disposal itself?"

Several important questions spring to mind when I read your post, such as "Where does this guy get this crap?", and "How hard is to research something on the internet when you have a mental disablilty?" - Although I think he has answered the latter question for me!

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Originally Posted by ultra tree 85!

Personally, I have no idea what to think about anything related to this game anymore, but what's your opinion? Do you think that the court date still exists on the horizon, or is the case "disposed?"

Personally, methinks you should stop thinking. It's contributing to global warming, and every time one of your synapses fires, a kitten dies. You bastard, that's one kitten every six hours. Of course the court case is still in progress. It was "disposed" to a FEDERAL COURT, and that has been said so many times I cannot even begin to comprehend how you, or any other moron, can interpret that as anything different.

And **** the people that got us into the position in the first place.

Now, bring on the hate

8IronBob · 01-30-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fast-1

A roller coaster toaster.

Funny dat, but oh so true.

WoodenSword · 01-30-2010, 06:32 PM

Yes guys the thread is lame BUT since someone brought that up:

-> In what city is the court trial now?
-> Does anyone from the forums live in that city (or near the courthouse area) and maybe go and make some "investigation?"

Conan of Cooma · 01-30-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodenSword

Yes guys the thread is lame BUT since someone brought that up:

-> In what city is the court trial now? (New York?)
-> Does anyone from the forums live in that city and maybe go and make some "investigation?"

Finally, the relevant questions are asked.

If no one has this info, does anyone know where we can dredge some up?

MegaMustaine · 01-30-2010, 07:11 PM

People need to type this "what does disposed mean in a court case" into Google. I have found in multiple places that this means that a case has been concluded.

Conan of Cooma · 01-30-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MegaMustaine

People need to type this "what does disposed mean in a court case" into Google. I have found in multiple places that this means that a case has been concluded.

I understand that, but the reference in question clearly states that the case was disposed to a federal court. By itself, stating that the case was "disposed", sans "...to federal court", would most likely mean the case was over. The inclusion of "...to federal court" cannot be ignored.

MegaMustaine · 01-30-2010, 07:24 PM

http://www.uscourts.gov/districtcourts.html
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cou...ase_id-346565/

I'm not a lawyer, but the New York Southern District Court is a federal court. Can I get a link to the paperwork that says the case was moved to federal court? From what I am seeing it looks like it MIGHT have been dismissed from a federal court.

Duke's New Chainsaw · 01-30-2010, 07:30 PM

So ******* what.

DNF doesn't exist.

Wamplet · 01-30-2010, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke's New Chainsaw

DNF doesn't exist.

Dismissed for lack of evidence

Conan of Cooma · 01-30-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MegaMustaine

http://www.uscourts.gov/districtcourts.html
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cou...ase_id-346565/

I'm not a lawyer, but the New York Southern District Court is a federal court. Can I get a link to the paperwork that says the case was moved to federal court? From what I am seeing it looks like it MIGHT have been dismissed from a federal court.

All valid points, but did you check the date for when it was disposed? It's not a new update, it's old news. If old news was the case being over, we would know by now, and we wouldn't be receiving useless "OMG, can't talk, law suit" responses from ass clowns.

MegaMustaine · 01-30-2010, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan of Cooma

All valid points, but did you check the date for when it was disposed? It's not a new update, it's old news. If old news was the case being over, we would know by now, and we wouldn't be receiving useless "OMG, can't talk, law suit" responses from ass clowns.

I'm not sure we would know. Unless 3DR or T2 tells us, how would we know the case was over? Nobody here seems to be able to provide solid evidence as to whether the case is still active or not. Just because we have "ass clowns" telling us that they can't talk about the game because of the suit doesn't mean there still is a suit. Maybe the agreement they came to included a provision that neither party should let the public know that the court case is over, and neither party should release media until an agreed time before the release of the game. I know we have been lied to a bunch of times by 3DR about what is in production. The most recent example I can come up with would be with Joe adamantly denying the existence of the XBLA D3D port right up until official media was released and the game was "officially announced." My guess would be that if the court case was settled, neither party would talk directly about the existence of DNF until a date agreed upon when an "official announcement" could be made.

duubhglas · 01-30-2010, 08:30 PM

3DRealms have or had any PR people?

MegaMustaine · 01-30-2010, 08:39 PM

No, not really. Joe Siegler was the closest thing, but he really wasn't a PR guy per say.

Pattonfiend67 · 01-30-2010, 08:55 PM

so i don't get it. 3d realms said the game will be released "when it's done." why is that so hard for everyone to understand?

i just hope they release it before everyone forgets about 'ol Duke... our generation is definitely getting older... quick...

Conan of Cooma · 01-30-2010, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MegaMustaine

I'm not sure we would know. Unless 3DR or T2 tells us, how would we know the case was over? Nobody here seems to be able to provide solid evidence as to whether the case is still active or not. Just because we have "ass clowns" telling us that they can't talk about the game because of the suit doesn't mean there still is a suit. Maybe the agreement they came to included a provision that neither party should let the public know that the court case is over, and neither party should release media until an agreed time before the release of the game. I know we have been lied to a bunch of times by 3DR about what is in production. The most recent example I can come up with would be with Joe adamantly denying the existence of the XBLA D3D port right up until official media was released and the game was "officially announced." My guess would be that if the court case was settled, neither party would talk directly about the existence of DNF until a date agreed upon when an "official announcement" could be made.

If the case were over, and there was some sort of gag order on both parties, there would still be evidence in legal documentation. It would state who won, but in the event of a gag, there would be no conclusive statements apart from who won. Not even why they won.

It also seems that the original injunction wasn't launched Federally, as the first page of the court docco says "SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK" and "COUNTY OF NEW YORK".

---------- Post added at 02:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:05 PM ----------

I'm not yelling, it is in caps...

MegaMustaine · 01-30-2010, 09:57 PM

If the case was disposed of and settled by the parties themselves we would not have a court document stating who won. I would assume we would have documentation stating that the case was removed or disposed from court which we seem to have. Again I'm no lawyer so I really don't know much about the documents I have seen, but if the case was ongoing I would assume there would be a date set for it and it would be public knowledge.

Duke's New Chainsaw · 01-30-2010, 10:33 PM

Duke Nukem Forever, SUMMER 2010

Conan of Cooma · 01-30-2010, 10:37 PM

Are you implying that Take 2 and 3DR have resolved this out of court?

defragen1 · 01-30-2010, 11:31 PM

When is the case done?

Duke's New Chainsaw · 01-31-2010, 12:54 AM

I want to ask too.

What is going on with the case? Is it done? Did 3DR win? Or Take 2?!

OMG IS IT DONE???!?!?!??!?!?!?!

UglyNacho · 01-31-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by defragen1

When is the case done?

When it's done.

MegaMustaine · 01-31-2010, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Conan of Cooma

Are you implying that Take 2 and 3DR have resolved this out of court?

They could have settled this out of court. That would explain why we do not have a scheduled court date.

Baboy · 01-31-2010, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MegaMustaine

They could have settled this out of court. That would explain why we do not have a scheduled court date.

I think there was a date, until George said "the court has to STFU imo".

duubhglas · 01-31-2010, 06:08 AM

In Law and Order all this court stuff happens so fast!

---------- Post added at 10:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:28 AM ----------

You want another crazy theory?

That photo of the team altogether maybe is not a goodbye picture, but that picture of the team detailing who is who that usually come in the insert manual.

JobivanHiob · 01-31-2010, 06:31 AM

[QUOTE=duubhglas;914758]In Law and Order all this court stuff happens so fast![COLOR="Silver"]

duubhglas · 01-31-2010, 06:51 AM

Want ANOTHER yet crazy (crazier) theory?

I just found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIYTsq6rB0

Some screeens to a cancelled PS2 Duke Nukem game called D-Day, in 2001. And a link to this: http://www.unseen64.net/2009/02/04/d...ps2-cancelled/

What if this was the reason for the new engine change? What if 3DRealms took the story and the elements of this D-Day to make Duke Nukem Forever, and that's the project name? Remember the Facebook picture? D-Day!

OPTRON is dr. Proton evil corporation, right?

I don't know, I just throwing feathers in the wind.

And I guess GB is working in portable stuff, like Critical Mass. Here (http://www.deepsilver.co.uk/index.php?&L=5) leads to the contest site here (http://www.dukeisback.com/).

JobivanHiob · 01-31-2010, 07:07 AM

old news...

Quote:

Want ANOTHER yet crazy (crazier) theory?

I just found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIYTsq6rB0

Some screeens to a cancelled PS2 Duke Nukem game called D-Day, in 2001. And a link to this: http://www.unseen64.net/2009/02/04/d...ps2-cancelled/

What if this was the reason for the new engine change? What if 3DRealms took the story and the elements of this D-Day to make Duke Nukem Forever, and that's the project name? Remember the Facebook picture? D-Day!

I thought that too, but that is not the case.

View Poll Results: Has the case been disposed?
Yes	12	23.08%
No	10	19.23%
Undecided	9	17.31%
What Difference Does It Make?	21	40.38%
Voters: 52. You may not vote on this poll

01-29-2010, 05:24 PM	#3
The Stinger Guest	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Where is the option for "Pants"?

01-29-2010, 05:09 PM	#1
ultra tree 85!	Is The Court Case Active or Not? The idea that the case is no longer in active status and has been "disposed" (no one has any idea what that could mean in this context) has surfaced several times in this community. During the most recent analysis, several people have concluded that the case is no longer active. There are several questions that come to mind when thinking about this possibility, such as, "Why are George and Scott still referencing the lawsuit and behaving as though it were still a threat?" and "Why haven't any statements come from Take-Two or 3D Realms about the disposal itself?" Personally, I have no idea what to think about anything related to this game anymore, but what's your opinion? Do you think that the court date still exists on the horizon, or is the case "disposed?"

01-29-2010, 05:13 PM	#2
Kristian Joensen	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? The case was moved to federal court, is that so hard to understand? __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

01-29-2010, 05:43 PM	#4
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? o m g __________________ The Great Communicator!

01-29-2010, 06:15 PM	#5
prophecy holder	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Pretty much this. __________________ "Ever since I was a little boy, dressing up has always been...my greatest joy. But when It's time to be discreet, there is one thing you just can't beat and that's a strapless backless classical little black dress" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e4BCOrLmJ0

01-29-2010, 09:03 PM	#6
Conan of Cooma	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? What you wrote is so stupid, that everyone who reads it actually becomes more of an idiot. That's how stupid it is.

01-29-2010, 09:12 PM	#7
Eagle	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Is there a name for this fantasy land that some here live in?

01-30-2010, 09:29 AM	#9
prophecy holder	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Thought it was the 3D realms forums. __________________ "Ever since I was a little boy, dressing up has always been...my greatest joy. But when It's time to be discreet, there is one thing you just can't beat and that's a strapless backless classical little black dress" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e4BCOrLmJ0

01-30-2010, 09:55 AM	#10
8IronBob	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Better to hear it straight from George or Scott themselves rather than all these suit websites. __________________ PC Specs (a.k.a. "Galacticus Prime"): http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7Vk7FT

01-30-2010, 02:08 PM	#11
duubhglas	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Course, like if they're going to say anything.

01-30-2010, 02:14 PM	#12
The Commander	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Where is the option for "The Court Case Is A Hoax"? __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

01-30-2010, 03:28 PM	#13
fast-1	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? A roller coaster toaster. __________________ Ha what a day.:D

01-30-2010, 06:32 PM	#16
WoodenSword	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Yes guys the thread is lame BUT since someone brought that up: -> In what city is the court trial now? -> Does anyone from the forums live in that city (or near the courthouse area) and maybe go and make some "investigation?" __________________ ------------------------------ When the chess game is over, the pawn and the king go back to the same box

01-30-2010, 07:11 PM	#18
MegaMustaine	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? People need to type this "what does disposed mean in a court case" into Google. I have found in multiple places that this means that a case has been concluded. __________________ This signature is a 77/100!

01-30-2010, 07:24 PM	#20
MegaMustaine	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? http://www.uscourts.gov/districtcourts.html http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/ http://dockets.justia.com/docket/cou...ase_id-346565/ I'm not a lawyer, but the New York Southern District Court is a federal court. Can I get a link to the paperwork that says the case was moved to federal court? From what I am seeing it looks like it MIGHT have been dismissed from a federal court. __________________ This signature is a 77/100!

01-30-2010, 07:30 PM	#21
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? So ******* what. DNF doesn't exist. __________________ The Great Communicator!

01-30-2010, 08:30 PM	#25
duubhglas	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? 3DRealms have or had any PR people?

01-30-2010, 08:39 PM	#26
MegaMustaine	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? No, not really. Joe Siegler was the closest thing, but he really wasn't a PR guy per say. __________________ This signature is a 77/100!

01-30-2010, 08:55 PM	#27
Pattonfiend67	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? so i don't get it. 3d realms said the game will be released "when it's done." why is that so hard for everyone to understand? i just hope they release it before everyone forgets about 'ol Duke... our generation is definitely getting older... quick...

01-30-2010, 09:57 PM	#29
MegaMustaine	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? If the case was disposed of and settled by the parties themselves we would not have a court document stating who won. I would assume we would have documentation stating that the case was removed or disposed from court which we seem to have. Again I'm no lawyer so I really don't know much about the documents I have seen, but if the case was ongoing I would assume there would be a date set for it and it would be public knowledge. __________________ This signature is a 77/100!

01-30-2010, 10:33 PM	#30
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Duke Nukem Forever, SUMMER 2010 __________________ The Great Communicator!

01-30-2010, 10:37 PM	#31
Conan of Cooma	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Are you implying that Take 2 and 3DR have resolved this out of court?

01-30-2010, 11:31 PM	#32
defragen1	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? When is the case done?

01-31-2010, 12:54 AM	#33
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? I want to ask too. What is going on with the case? Is it done? Did 3DR win? Or Take 2?! OMG IS IT DONE???!?!?!??!?!?!?! __________________ The Great Communicator!

01-31-2010, 06:08 AM	#37
duubhglas	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? In Law and Order all this court stuff happens so fast! ---------- Post added at 10:08 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:28 AM ---------- You want another crazy theory? That photo of the team altogether maybe is not a goodbye picture, but that picture of the team detailing who is who that usually come in the insert manual.

01-31-2010, 06:31 AM	#38
JobivanHiob	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? [QUOTE=duubhglas;914758]In Law and Order all this court stuff happens so fast![COLOR="Silver"] __________________ Stay up to date with http://dukewatch.blogspot.com for the UNEXPECTED and PREPARE YOURSELF for SHOCK and AWESOME on Penny Arcade EXPO from September 3-5! Onebullit: "If DNF comes out in 2010 i will buy 2 copies and send you one." pjVgt regading DNF at PAX:"I would seriously shit my pants and pre-order three copies - one will be sent to Jobi"

01-31-2010, 06:51 AM	#39
duubhglas	Re: Is The Court Case Active or Not? Want ANOTHER yet crazy (crazier) theory? I just found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIYTsq6rB0 Some screeens to a cancelled PS2 Duke Nukem game called D-Day, in 2001. And a link to this: http://www.unseen64.net/2009/02/04/d...ps2-cancelled/ What if this was the reason for the new engine change? What if 3DRealms took the story and the elements of this D-Day to make Duke Nukem Forever, and that's the project name? Remember the Facebook picture? D-Day! OPTRON is dr. Proton evil corporation, right? I don't know, I just throwing feathers in the wind. And I guess GB is working in portable stuff, like Critical Mass. Here (http://www.deepsilver.co.uk/index.php?&L=5) leads to the contest site here (http://www.dukeisback.com/).