Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion)

DavidMcmurdo · 07-10-2010, 07:53 PM

Hey Everyone

I've been a little disappointed at the apparent lack of interest for Rise of the Triad online. I guess I expected to find a thriving community of fanatics. Luckily I always begin my creative endeavours for myself more than anyone else so I'm proceeding with the creation of Rise of the Triad: The New Order which will be an expansion for the original game that will ultimately contain more maps than Dark War. At the current time Episode 1 is nearing completion and when it is finished I'll release it as "shareware". Of course really the entire thing is shareware but I just wanted to give a nod to the good old days and give people a sample to enjoy while I complete the rest of the expansion.

I've been able to draw upon a deep source of inspiration recently and I've got lots of ideas planned for this expansion. Of course compared to what can be done with modern games you really have to make the best of your resources with the ROTT engine but I'm in a retro phase just now. I decided to assign each of the bosses a personality which of course has to be invented because we know nothing about them really aside from how they look. The bosses respective episode then reflects that personality. For example Darion as a General is very practical and his maps are exactly as you'd expect of a military man. Krist on the other hand I have as a maniacal genius who specialises in cruel traps and his episode is designed accordingly. NME will be all about efficiency and Oscuro's maps will be heavy on the occult. Rather than just make each map any way that makes them harder than the last, there will be a rhyme and reason to each of them and you will be able to see the purpose that each area fulfils in the greater Triad war machine.

There is a whole lot more but I'll save it for the readme file that will come with the expansion for the few who may be interested. For now I just wanted to say that I've uploaded a video playing through and providing commentary for the final version of Area 1 of Episode 1 of my expansion. Even if you're not interested in ROTT you might get something out of it (aside from the fact I'm prepared to go to insane lengths for a game nearly two decades old but hey, I love that game). Anyway the link is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MedybOqSXA

Also can anyone confirm that there are plans to revisit the Rise of the Triad franchise? I have heard whispers for a long time but only seen ports for handheld devices so far. A resurrection of the series would be amazing.

PimPamPet · 07-10-2010, 08:17 PM

Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but after seeing that video I'm getting pretty excited about this project! Please keep us posted on your progress!

GrimWoman · 07-10-2010, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidMcmurdo

I've been a little disappointed at the apparent lack of interest for Rise of the Triad online.

I am too.

Edit: also i cant wait to play your expansion.

DavidMcmurdo · 07-12-2010, 09:37 AM

Just uploaded the commentary for my second level and I also respond to a few comments regarding the nature of the engine and making maps for games like Half-Life and why I really have no interest in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFY32d3QPGM

DavidMcmurdo · 07-13-2010, 06:06 PM

I've just uploaded my playthrough of and commentary for the third map in my ROTT expansion called "The Barracks". I don't want to constantly spam this forum with these so I won't post again until the "shareware" version of this expansion is complete and ready to download and play.
In this commentary I talk about the World War 2 element that is still present in Rise of the Triad, expand upon the fictional backround and respond to a few more comments and questions about the Dark Engine and Doom 3. Linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s95F0-Wx0

hammer oz · 07-13-2010, 11:55 PM

Its good to see that people still are interested in making rott levels and expansions.
i gave up ages ago after i made my 3 level episode due to people not paying any interest in my levels but after watching your videos on this project it got me thinking again

ps id still like if my levels could get into this expansion but i doubt that will ever happen

KO Gilligan · 07-14-2010, 06:04 PM

Very nice!!!
Hope you continue doing this stuff.
I was just thinking the other day about when I get a little netbook with XP on it, this should be one of the very first games I load.

I've got both the original and the DosBox version from GOG.COM

Jeffpiatt · 07-14-2010, 07:40 PM

I actually beleve that gog.com could really push business by marketing through netbook builders.

DavidMcmurdo · 07-15-2010, 12:23 PM

Thanks everyone. I'm so very proud to still own my original Rise of the Triad and even Extreme Rise of the Triad CDs. Got the manual still too. That was a lovely manual. All colour and glossy.
Just uploaded The Ramparts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I_-WrXTP6c

Per_Scan · 10-21-2010, 09:45 AM

Is this project still going? I just tried to check out the videos but they have been removed .

StoneFrog · 10-21-2010, 03:23 PM

Yeah. I was really looking forward to this one!

Per_Scan · 10-23-2010, 05:34 PM

No answer's a loud reply?

moron · 10-24-2010, 09:37 PM

maybe he got hit with his own flame wall

PimPamPet · 10-26-2010, 06:21 AM

I hope he didn't abandon this project, it was looking good.

moron · 11-01-2010, 11:58 AM

indeed I think he became sad

Per_Scan · 11-02-2010, 04:01 AM

Shame. It's certainly made me sad...

MikeMiller · 12-05-2010, 07:51 AM

It saddens me, too. But doesn't surprise me.
I announced the existence of my own set of levels two years ago, only to be met by silence.

Only in the last couple of weeks have a few ROTT devotees contacted me (via the dedicated ROTT forum at http://rott.s4.bizhat.com/ ) about my levels, thus re-sparking my interest.

If anyone is still interested, my 15-level original episode can be found at
http://mikemiller.net/rott/MIKEMAD.ZIP
They are quite difficult in parts, and have several interesting "puzzles".
Any any all feedback would be appreciated.

Thanks,

-Mike

MrBlackCat · 12-23-2010, 12:23 PM

Not saying this project was failed or abandoned... but the reason they fail is because their motivations are off.
If you are making a game for people who aren't interested, then your time is being wasted.
If you are making a game YOU want to play, for you, that others can enjoy ALSO, then it will likely succeed.
Support is fine, but if it is the reason and IS the motivation, the project will most likely never see the end.
The only mod I ever finished was a Wolfenstein mod for my girlfriend. My motivation was a good game for myself, and my girlfriend. Without having a sustaining reason (or reasons) it could never have been finished.

People will gladly eat your free food, but very very few will help you work in the garden to grow it.

MrBlackCat

07-10-2010, 07:53 PM	#1
DavidMcmurdo	Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Hey Everyone I've been a little disappointed at the apparent lack of interest for Rise of the Triad online. I guess I expected to find a thriving community of fanatics. Luckily I always begin my creative endeavours for myself more than anyone else so I'm proceeding with the creation of Rise of the Triad: The New Order which will be an expansion for the original game that will ultimately contain more maps than Dark War. At the current time Episode 1 is nearing completion and when it is finished I'll release it as "shareware". Of course really the entire thing is shareware but I just wanted to give a nod to the good old days and give people a sample to enjoy while I complete the rest of the expansion. I've been able to draw upon a deep source of inspiration recently and I've got lots of ideas planned for this expansion. Of course compared to what can be done with modern games you really have to make the best of your resources with the ROTT engine but I'm in a retro phase just now. I decided to assign each of the bosses a personality which of course has to be invented because we know nothing about them really aside from how they look. The bosses respective episode then reflects that personality. For example Darion as a General is very practical and his maps are exactly as you'd expect of a military man. Krist on the other hand I have as a maniacal genius who specialises in cruel traps and his episode is designed accordingly. NME will be all about efficiency and Oscuro's maps will be heavy on the occult. Rather than just make each map any way that makes them harder than the last, there will be a rhyme and reason to each of them and you will be able to see the purpose that each area fulfils in the greater Triad war machine. There is a whole lot more but I'll save it for the readme file that will come with the expansion for the few who may be interested. For now I just wanted to say that I've uploaded a video playing through and providing commentary for the final version of Area 1 of Episode 1 of my expansion. Even if you're not interested in ROTT you might get something out of it (aside from the fact I'm prepared to go to insane lengths for a game nearly two decades old but hey, I love that game). Anyway the link is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MedybOqSXA Also can anyone confirm that there are plans to revisit the Rise of the Triad franchise? I have heard whispers for a long time but only seen ports for handheld devices so far. A resurrection of the series would be amazing.

07-10-2010, 08:17 PM	#2
PimPamPet	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Well, I can't speak for anybody else, but after seeing that video I'm getting pretty excited about this project! Please keep us posted on your progress!

07-12-2010, 09:37 AM	#4
DavidMcmurdo	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Just uploaded the commentary for my second level and I also respond to a few comments regarding the nature of the engine and making maps for games like Half-Life and why I really have no interest in it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFY32d3QPGM

07-13-2010, 06:06 PM	#5
DavidMcmurdo	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) I've just uploaded my playthrough of and commentary for the third map in my ROTT expansion called "The Barracks". I don't want to constantly spam this forum with these so I won't post again until the "shareware" version of this expansion is complete and ready to download and play. In this commentary I talk about the World War 2 element that is still present in Rise of the Triad, expand upon the fictional backround and respond to a few more comments and questions about the Dark Engine and Doom 3. Linky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s95F0-Wx0

07-13-2010, 11:55 PM	#6
hammer oz	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Its good to see that people still are interested in making rott levels and expansions. i gave up ages ago after i made my 3 level episode due to people not paying any interest in my levels but after watching your videos on this project it got me thinking again ps id still like if my levels could get into this expansion but i doubt that will ever happen __________________ [id shake your hand but i cant lies all lies

07-14-2010, 06:04 PM	#7
KO Gilligan	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Very nice!!! Hope you continue doing this stuff. I was just thinking the other day about when I get a little netbook with XP on it, this should be one of the very first games I load. I've got both the original and the DosBox version from GOG.COM Last edited by KO Gilligan; 07-14-2010 at 06:08 PM.

07-14-2010, 07:40 PM	#8
Jeffpiatt	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) I actually beleve that gog.com could really push business by marketing through netbook builders. __________________ junk for sale http://raptr.com/jeffpiatt

07-15-2010, 12:23 PM	#9
DavidMcmurdo	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Thanks everyone. I'm so very proud to still own my original Rise of the Triad and even Extreme Rise of the Triad CDs. Got the manual still too. That was a lovely manual. All colour and glossy. Just uploaded The Ramparts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I_-WrXTP6c

10-21-2010, 09:45 AM	#10
Per_Scan	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Is this project still going? I just tried to check out the videos but they have been removed .

10-21-2010, 03:23 PM	#11
StoneFrog	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Yeah. I was really looking forward to this one!

10-23-2010, 05:34 PM	#12
Per_Scan	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) No answer's a loud reply? __________________ ROTT Editing & Modding Forum is Back Online!

10-24-2010, 09:37 PM	#13
moron	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) maybe he got hit with his own flame wall

10-26-2010, 06:21 AM	#14
PimPamPet	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) I hope he didn't abandon this project, it was looking good.

11-01-2010, 11:58 AM	#15
moron	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) indeed I think he became sad

11-02-2010, 04:01 AM	#16
Per_Scan	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Shame. It's certainly made me sad... __________________ ROTT Editing & Modding Forum is Back Online!

12-05-2010, 07:51 AM	#17
MikeMiller	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) It saddens me, too. But doesn't surprise me. I announced the existence of my own set of levels two years ago, only to be met by silence. Only in the last couple of weeks have a few ROTT devotees contacted me (via the dedicated ROTT forum at http://rott.s4.bizhat.com/ ) about my levels, thus re-sparking my interest. If anyone is still interested, my 15-level original episode can be found at http://mikemiller.net/rott/MIKEMAD.ZIP They are quite difficult in parts, and have several interesting "puzzles". Any any all feedback would be appreciated. Thanks, -Mike

12-23-2010, 12:23 PM	#18
MrBlackCat	Re: Rise of the Triad: The New Order (My ROTT Expansion) Not saying this project was failed or abandoned... but the reason they fail is because their motivations are off. If you are making a game for people who aren't interested, then your time is being wasted. If you are making a game YOU want to play, for you, that others can enjoy ALSO, then it will likely succeed. Support is fine, but if it is the reason and IS the motivation, the project will most likely never see the end. The only mod I ever finished was a Wolfenstein mod for my girlfriend. My motivation was a good game for myself, and my girlfriend. Without having a sustaining reason (or reasons) it could never have been finished. People will gladly eat your free food, but very very few will help you work in the garden to grow it. MrBlackCat __________________ YES! I do wear my Duke Xtreme t-shirt every day!* :) (Not really, sometimes I wear my Time to Kill* t-shirt... like while I am washing my other Duke shirts for instance.) :)