What do we want to see in this game?

08-07-2006, 09:08 AM

This has to be the biggest question of all on this thread
i mean cmon what do we actually want out of this game?

well heres what i want

A multiplayer mode called Everybody's a chuck norris where the mightyboot is the only weapon and its an instagib weapon

I want the same feel i get from playing duke3d
I want very similar gameplay to duke3d
I dont want this to end up like serious sam 2
I want a large,cool,powerful arsenal
I want about 20 different enemy types some big,most medium and some small
I want a few button puzzles
Some Huge scary bosses (not like the ones in ss2) like the ones the last d3d had
I want cool,large,explorable,non linear levels
I want it to be atleast 20-22 hours long with 30 levels
I still want duke to have his same look
I still want them to keep the d3d teleportation sound (its just classic)
I want some good new jokes making fun of todays games and quite alot of natural,witty humour (nothing too childish like some of the jokes in ss2)
I dont mind a little bit of cartoony but not as much as ss2
I want to see some portal technology like in prey (cos id like to fire a rocket through a transporter like in d3d where it could come through another teleporter

)
Id like a points system (for the sake of it)
Id like to see a map editor like build but with a few modern things added in
Id like to have a C++ coding system

(for modding)
Secondary fire
Bullet Time
Secret Levels
an ingame mp3 player incase the music is crap
A BRILLIANT GAME!

Now heres a list of guns im sure we'd all like to see in the game

Mighty Boot
Chainsaw
Original D3D pistol
Akimbo D3d pistol
Original D3D shotgun
Akimbo D3D shotgun
RPG (with a new look)
Shrinker (with new look)
OMA (one man army) assault cannon (its a fusion of a ripper and a devastator)
Flechette Uzi
Akimbo Flechette Uzis
Freezer
Flame cannon (first attack could be a flamethrower second attack spits balls of flame that bounce around setting fire to everything then explode into a massive fire)
Pipe bomb
Hell Raiser (fires a big orange ball of death which creates a massive explosion of death)
Tripwire bomb
ABD (A Buzzing Death) rifle (shoots long range beams of electricity and has a sniper scope)
and mabye some more

I wouldnt mind seeing some vehicles either
like

ExoSuit
Tank
Dukes ship
Hover Craft

I do realise that you cant have anything and im sorry if im so demanding but these are just suggestions for a brilliant game

and if it did include this stuff it would take 2 years to make

anyway what would any of you like to see

crunchy superman · 08-07-2006, 09:26 AM

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what do we actually want to see out of this game?

Existence.

Xerxes · 08-07-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Electronic Pest

and if it did include this stuff it would take 2 years to make

It's been taking 10 years so far, so unless they can build a time machine with your ideas, no(unless you're talking about just your stuff)...

Sang · 08-07-2006, 09:44 AM

Oh come on - This "what do we want to see" stuff has been spread out over numerous topics multiple times.

Anyhoo, I agree with crunchy superman.

08-07-2006, 09:44 AM

in reply to #2

Bang On

baff · 08-07-2006, 09:46 AM

I'll settle for a CD full of porn labelled "Duke Nukem Video Game" so my mum will still buy it for me.

Otto · 08-07-2006, 09:54 AM

I figure they didn't need my advice to make DN3D one of the best games I've ever played, and that this logic would hold true for DNF.

Joe Siegler · 08-07-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Electronic Pest

This has to be the biggest question of all on this thread i mean cmon what do we actually want out of this game?

This kind of question is death. When you set up a huge list of expectations like that, we'll probably fail, because there will be one small thing on your list we don't do, and that will make you say "It's good but..."

It's better to go into it without expectations and take it as it comes, as opposed to having a big list of things you go "Check, OK - they put that in, OK, that's in too, etc..."

brabee · 08-07-2006, 10:22 AM

Joe is right. The bigger the expectations the bigger the chance you"ll dissapointed. I only expect the game to show up one day

Btw, it's been said there wont be akimbo weapons, right?

08-07-2006, 12:28 PM

ok i understand now why dont we lock this thread

Amakou · 08-07-2006, 01:33 PM

I think we get the idea....you want it like Duke3D, and not like Serious Sam 2...

~Amakou~

Thriller · 08-07-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brabee

Joe is right. The bigger the expectations the bigger the chance you"ll dissapointed. I only expect the game to show up one day

Btw, it's been said there wont be akimbo weapons, right?

No, that was long ago, with different engine limitations and overall different decisions. I personally think it will be in.

d3ad connection · 08-07-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Electronic Pest

(big list of expectations that probably wont happen)

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Existence.

I'm with crunchy on this. All I want is to play it

Alexander · 08-07-2006, 02:45 PM

come to think of it, all i want to see from this game ist that it shows the other FPS designers how it's done. I'd like to see this game pushing the standerts up to a new level and keeping it that way.
I really trust these guys in their work and I don't see why I should be dissapointed. We don't know that much about the game in total (HOW COULD WE) and I'm pretty sure that most of us will be blasted by this masterpiece...............when it's done of cource...

Mr.Sociopath · 08-07-2006, 03:00 PM

personnaly I fear of seeing it being like duke 3d...it would be good but not as good as it could be..

for me f.e.a.r. is a bit following the idea of interactivity of duke 3d.. everything reacts when you shoot(smoke, papers, holes etc...).. this was a improvment in time of duke 3d.. duke 3d also had innovative weapon in it's time... but now we see at least 1 special weapon in every game..
so , if dnf actually plays like duke 3d.. it will be a bit to common..
that's why i hope for improvement in interactivity and gameplay which would separate this game from the others..

Evil Angel · 08-07-2006, 03:28 PM

The game is so hyped already by it's own history that unless it's nothing short of revolutionary and breathtaking some people are going to be at least a little bit disappointed.

For me though (if I draw a parallel with the Star Wars prequels) all they have to do is sidestep the Jar Jar landmine and I'm golden.

08-07-2006, 04:17 PM

in reply to post above me

well put out

and i would say serious sam 2 hit a jarjar landmine kind of thing
(as in its too goofy and cartoony)

of course thats not what we want and will NEVER happen....probably

and by the way the only expectation on my list now is a good,action filled,classic game that im hoping will be DNF

08-07-2006, 11:32 PM

i want to see it on the 360 asap. dont want to offend the narrow minded pc player but thats what i want. peace

Denz · 08-08-2006, 04:42 AM

Just take DN3D

It had bloody chunks and you could blow enemies into pieces. You have big huge screens (level 4, episode 3) with animation on it. You have working cameras, you have badass weapons, excelent level design, that makes level fun and enjoyable, even when you replay the game, shiet load of secrets, sound systeme that changes when you are underwater or in a echoing room, and a better interactivity than some of todays game.

And then i wait DNF, exceptating minimal things.

Malgon · 08-08-2006, 05:13 AM

I just want it to suprise me.

baff · 08-08-2006, 07:49 AM

Randomly generated levels for endless replayability.

Mr.Sociopath · 08-08-2006, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by baff

Randomly generated levels for endless replayability.

there could be a special mode where we would play the game with a randomly generated level, randomly generated story, and randomly generated quest.. nothing would make sens and it would be funny..
but for randomly generated level in the standard game.. I'd like to see that well done in 10 years.. but now it would look bad I think..

Airtraffic · 08-08-2006, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Existence.

LOL!!

I have my doughts it'll never see the light of day...at least not for PC anyway.

PC gaming is toast! costs to keep up with new hardware and developers seeing sales 800% below console sales means DNF will be XBOX360..etc.

Shame really!

alexgk · 08-08-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Airtraffic

PC gaming is toast! costs to keep up with new hardware and developers seeing sales 800% below console sales means DNF will be XBOX360..etc.

Nah, DNF for PC comes first, but that doesn't mean that I don't want it to appear in 360.

Destroyer · 08-08-2006, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

It's better to go into it without expectations and take it as it comes, as opposed to having a big list of things you go "Check, OK - they put that in, OK, that's in too, etc..."

yup the only thing we should expect is it be out this decade.

can we??

brabee · 08-09-2006, 02:59 AM

it'll be done. right joe?

Foxy · 08-09-2006, 03:24 AM

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A multiplayer mode called Everybody's a chuck norris where the mightyboot is the only weapon and its an instagib weapon

LOL! This could be done as a mutator very easily! *awesome* idea.

Edit: Scratch instagib, set the force applied by the boot to something stupidly high, and with ragdoll physics on...

Gatinater · 08-09-2006, 05:18 AM

When Duke Kicks fairy dust should fling from his foot and he should be able to spin around then start dancing causing all of the bad guys to join in then when the dance is over they all fall down and die. Just like in the Micheal Jackso MoonWalker beat em up video game.

ZaphodB · 08-09-2006, 06:28 AM

It installed on my hard-drive and me playing it, with my FPS2000Digital speakers cranked all the way, my face 8 inches from my 19" monitor. That's what I want to see out of this game.

unger316 · 08-09-2006, 09:45 AM

I want this game in my hands

Sang · 08-09-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sociopath

personnaly I fear of seeing it being like duke 3d...it would be good but not as good as it could be..

I'm sure he just means "like Duke3D" by level locations (ie stripclubs and urban areas), level design and style. All the rest, Next-gen!

Foxy · 08-09-2006, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gatinater

When Duke Kicks fairy dust should fling from his foot and he should be able to spin around then start dancing causing all of the bad guys to join in then when the dance is over they all fall down and die. Just like in the Micheal Jackso MoonWalker beat em up video game.

This mod has just got to be made.

Add a weapon switch key first.

Fists:
Normal fire - Punch in the mush
Melee key- [held] chin crack (sends player flying up a few feet)
Alt fire - Flying headbutt!

Boots:

Normal fire - Kick in the mush
Melee key - Kick in the crotch

Alt-fire - Roundhouse kick!! Needs to be charged up by hitting people shortly beforehand, hits all people in an X yard radius, knocking them flying.

Blows should slow down the player depending on how hard they hit.

I'd play it.

Mr.Sociopath · 08-09-2006, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sang

I'm sure he just means "like Duke3D" by level locations (ie stripclubs and urban areas), level design and style. All the rest, Next-gen!

yes but in my opnion he also meant.. as simple as duke, simple inventory, simple one liner.. 2 way to reach the end of the level in most case, and bosses at the end of episodes or something similar(always at the end of something

).. that's it..

for exemple.. I find doom 3 a bit like doom 1.. so it stayed in my opinion close to the original.. but in it's time doom 1 was really great.. doom 3 seems too common except for it's graphic engine which is getting old so very fast..

so that's the problem actually, if duke just stays like duke 3d.. it will get old very fast even if it has very nice next-gen graphics..

infowars · 08-09-2006, 03:01 PM

its like watching a movie...

Everybody's ALWAYS going to be like..."well it sucked cuz of this..." or
"it was good but..." or the people who think it is great ...JUST becuase its a duke nukem game...

We all hope it will be the best game ever...and that dnf will have stuff 'never before seen' in a fps...but honestly...

When it comes down to it...DNF is JUST another FPS.

Get over it. It WONT deliver what your dreaming about.
It WILL be a GREAT game...its just not going to make you crap your pants though...(those games are gonna be another 10 years out...) (MY OPINION)

It will play like a half life 2 game...with all the bells & whistle taken from
duke3d. (imo) Duke3d was a classic, and trying to re-make something that was special WONT happen. 3drealms really f-up with dnf...peoples hopes are WAY too high!

If DNF is as entertaining as 'metal gear solid'...ill be happy!

perfect example...doom 3

The first DOOM 1 & 2...were classics. I have some kind of 'mental bond' with that game...Growing up playing and listening to Nine inch nails...it was great! I was hooked! Its a friggin classic...then they announced DOOM 3.
"WOW! HOLY SHIZIT!" I was floored by the thought of playing the new and improved doom....but look what happened!!!!!! Doom 3 was a bore! It had great graphics, and THATS ALL!

Mr.Sociopath · 08-09-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by infowars

When it comes down to it...DNF is JUST another FPS.

Get over it. It WONT deliver what your dreaming about.
It WILL be a GREAT game...its just not going to make you crap your pants though...(those games are gonna be another 10 years out...) (MY OPINION)

but.. it's 3drealms... they did make a somewhat-revolutionary game before, they surely can do it again even if they became old and fat

SyntaxN · 08-09-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sociopath

but.. it's 3drealms... they did make a somewhat-revolutionary game before, they surely can do it again even if they became old and fat

Back then the game industry was smaller and sloooow compared to what´s going on today...

Mr.Sociopath · 08-09-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SyntaxN

Back then the game industry was smaller and sloooow compared to what´s going on today...

yeah but it's 3drealms and they WANT to give us the best product ever ! yaaay

Amakou · 08-09-2006, 09:26 PM

Actually I remember George saying they just wanted to get it done now...don't remember where I saw that quote....

~Amakou~

Mr.Sociopath · 08-10-2006, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Amakou

Actually I remember George saying they just wanted to get it done now...don't remember where I saw that quote....

~Amakou~

He was just teasing

Zixinus · 08-10-2006, 08:31 AM

Prioroty list:
1. Existence and release, all in my hands to play.
2. Quality, best the 3DR team could get away with.
3. Kick-ass action!
4. Fun.

That's all.

08-07-2006, 09:08 AM	#1
Electronic Pest Guest	What do we want to see in this game? This has to be the biggest question of all on this thread i mean cmon what do we actually want out of this game? well heres what i want A multiplayer mode called Everybody's a chuck norris where the mightyboot is the only weapon and its an instagib weapon I want the same feel i get from playing duke3d I want very similar gameplay to duke3d I dont want this to end up like serious sam 2 I want a large,cool,powerful arsenal I want about 20 different enemy types some big,most medium and some small I want a few button puzzles Some Huge scary bosses (not like the ones in ss2) like the ones the last d3d had I want cool,large,explorable,non linear levels I want it to be atleast 20-22 hours long with 30 levels I still want duke to have his same look I still want them to keep the d3d teleportation sound (its just classic) I want some good new jokes making fun of todays games and quite alot of natural,witty humour (nothing too childish like some of the jokes in ss2) I dont mind a little bit of cartoony but not as much as ss2 I want to see some portal technology like in prey (cos id like to fire a rocket through a transporter like in d3d where it could come through another teleporter ) Id like a points system (for the sake of it) Id like to see a map editor like build but with a few modern things added in Id like to have a C++ coding system (for modding) Secondary fire Bullet Time Secret Levels an ingame mp3 player incase the music is crap A BRILLIANT GAME! Now heres a list of guns im sure we'd all like to see in the game Mighty Boot Chainsaw Original D3D pistol Akimbo D3d pistol Original D3D shotgun Akimbo D3D shotgun RPG (with a new look) Shrinker (with new look) OMA (one man army) assault cannon (its a fusion of a ripper and a devastator) Flechette Uzi Akimbo Flechette Uzis Freezer Flame cannon (first attack could be a flamethrower second attack spits balls of flame that bounce around setting fire to everything then explode into a massive fire) Pipe bomb Hell Raiser (fires a big orange ball of death which creates a massive explosion of death) Tripwire bomb ABD (A Buzzing Death) rifle (shoots long range beams of electricity and has a sniper scope) and mabye some more I wouldnt mind seeing some vehicles either like ExoSuit Tank Dukes ship Hover Craft I do realise that you cant have anything and im sorry if im so demanding but these are just suggestions for a brilliant game and if it did include this stuff it would take 2 years to make anyway what would any of you like to see

08-07-2006, 09:44 AM	#5
Electronic Pest Guest	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? in reply to #2 Bang On

08-07-2006, 12:28 PM	#10
Electronic Pest Guest	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? ok i understand now why dont we lock this thread

08-07-2006, 04:17 PM	#17
Electronic Pest Guest	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? in reply to post above me well put out and i would say serious sam 2 hit a jarjar landmine kind of thing (as in its too goofy and cartoony) of course thats not what we want and will NEVER happen....probably and by the way the only expectation on my list now is a good,action filled,classic game that im hoping will be DNF

08-07-2006, 11:32 PM	#18
StainedCheeks Guest	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? i want to see it on the 360 asap. dont want to offend the narrow minded pc player but thats what i want. peace

08-07-2006, 09:44 AM	#4
Sang	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? Oh come on - This "what do we want to see" stuff has been spread out over numerous topics multiple times. Anyhoo, I agree with crunchy superman. __________________ traB pu kcip

08-07-2006, 09:46 AM	#6
baff	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? I'll settle for a CD full of porn labelled "Duke Nukem Video Game" so my mum will still buy it for me.

08-07-2006, 09:54 AM	#7
Otto	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? I figure they didn't need my advice to make DN3D one of the best games I've ever played, and that this logic would hold true for DNF.

08-07-2006, 10:22 AM	#9
brabee	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? Joe is right. The bigger the expectations the bigger the chance you"ll dissapointed. I only expect the game to show up one day Btw, it's been said there wont be akimbo weapons, right?

08-07-2006, 01:33 PM	#11
Amakou	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? I think we get the idea....you want it like Duke3D, and not like Serious Sam 2... ~Amakou~ __________________ I'm a Hitman fan It'll be done When It's Done!

08-07-2006, 02:45 PM	#14
Alexander	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? come to think of it, all i want to see from this game ist that it shows the other FPS designers how it's done. I'd like to see this game pushing the standerts up to a new level and keeping it that way. I really trust these guys in their work and I don't see why I should be dissapointed. We don't know that much about the game in total (HOW COULD WE) and I'm pretty sure that most of us will be blasted by this masterpiece...............when it's done of cource... __________________ If looks could kill they probably will, in games without frontiers, war without tears... -- Peter Gabriel

08-07-2006, 03:00 PM	#15
Mr.Sociopath	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? personnaly I fear of seeing it being like duke 3d...it would be good but not as good as it could be.. for me f.e.a.r. is a bit following the idea of interactivity of duke 3d.. everything reacts when you shoot(smoke, papers, holes etc...).. this was a improvment in time of duke 3d.. duke 3d also had innovative weapon in it's time... but now we see at least 1 special weapon in every game.. so , if dnf actually plays like duke 3d.. it will be a bit to common.. that's why i hope for improvement in interactivity and gameplay which would separate this game from the others..

08-07-2006, 03:28 PM	#16
Evil Angel	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? The game is so hyped already by it's own history that unless it's nothing short of revolutionary and breathtaking some people are going to be at least a little bit disappointed. For me though (if I draw a parallel with the Star Wars prequels) all they have to do is sidestep the Jar Jar landmine and I'm golden.

08-08-2006, 04:42 AM	#19
Denz	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? Just take DN3D It had bloody chunks and you could blow enemies into pieces. You have big huge screens (level 4, episode 3) with animation on it. You have working cameras, you have badass weapons, excelent level design, that makes level fun and enjoyable, even when you replay the game, shiet load of secrets, sound systeme that changes when you are underwater or in a echoing room, and a better interactivity than some of todays game. And then i wait DNF, exceptating minimal things. __________________ *crunchy superman said:* 10 years and two complete restarts - that's either one very effective filter, or a whole lotta shit. :D

08-08-2006, 05:13 AM	#20
Malgon	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? I just want it to suprise me. __________________ -Most wanted games: Doom 4, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good and Evil 2

08-08-2006, 07:49 AM	#21
baff	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? Randomly generated levels for endless replayability.

08-09-2006, 02:59 AM	#26
brabee	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? it'll be done. right joe?

08-09-2006, 05:18 AM	#28
Gatinater	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? When Duke Kicks fairy dust should fling from his foot and he should be able to spin around then start dancing causing all of the bad guys to join in then when the dance is over they all fall down and die. Just like in the Micheal Jackso MoonWalker beat em up video game.

08-09-2006, 06:28 AM	#29
ZaphodB	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? It installed on my hard-drive and me playing it, with my FPS2000Digital speakers cranked all the way, my face 8 inches from my 19" monitor. That's what I want to see out of this game. __________________ "If there's ANYTHING larger than my EGO I want it shot and killed right now" - Zaphod Beeblebrox This Public Service Announcement brought to you by: "The People Who Have NO Idea What's Going On" (TPWHNOIWGON) We thank you for ignoring it.

08-09-2006, 09:45 AM	#30
unger316	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? I want this game in my hands __________________ thanks to alexgk for this comment: Mr. Broussard, our beloved leader, doesn't want us to post anything bad about "The Game". Brother Siegler commands us to "silence" all intruders and non-believers. You have been warned! DNF Media Count: 3 pictures

08-09-2006, 03:01 PM	#34
infowars	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? its like watching a movie... Everybody's ALWAYS going to be like..."well it sucked cuz of this..." or "it was good but..." or the people who think it is great ...JUST becuase its a duke nukem game... We all hope it will be the best game ever...and that dnf will have stuff 'never before seen' in a fps...but honestly... When it comes down to it...DNF is JUST another FPS. Get over it. It WONT deliver what your dreaming about. It WILL be a GREAT game...its just not going to make you crap your pants though...(those games are gonna be another 10 years out...) (MY OPINION) It will play like a half life 2 game...with all the bells & whistle taken from duke3d. (imo) Duke3d was a classic, and trying to re-make something that was special WONT happen. 3drealms really f-up with dnf...peoples hopes are WAY too high! If DNF is as entertaining as 'metal gear solid'...ill be happy! perfect example...doom 3 The first DOOM 1 & 2...were classics. I have some kind of 'mental bond' with that game...Growing up playing and listening to Nine inch nails...it was great! I was hooked! Its a friggin classic...then they announced DOOM 3. "WOW! HOLY SHIZIT!" I was floored by the thought of playing the new and improved doom....but look what happened!!!!!! Doom 3 was a bore! It had great graphics, and THATS ALL! Last edited by infowars; 08-09-2006 at 03:15 PM.

08-09-2006, 09:26 PM	#38
Amakou	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? Actually I remember George saying they just wanted to get it done now...don't remember where I saw that quote.... ~Amakou~ __________________ I'm a Hitman fan It'll be done When It's Done!

08-10-2006, 08:31 AM	#40
Zixinus	Re: what do we actually want to see out of this game? Prioroty list: 1. Existence and release, all in my hands to play. 2. Quality, best the 3DR team could get away with. 3. Kick-ass action! 4. Fun. That's all.