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Old 04-17-2005, 07:25 PM   #41
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Christ can we keep this in one thread please? I am getting very tired of repeating myself..

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Old 04-17-2005, 07:27 PM   #42
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:18 PM   #43
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it will probably be Quake 4
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Old 04-17-2005, 08:25 PM   #44
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Quake 4's already been in. The more you think about it; biggest gaming franchise just doesn't fit with Prey at all. I really don't think a whole hell of a lot of people will even know what Prey is. Especially younger gamers. I didn't know that much about it till I started coming here.

George or someone from 3DR may have done an interview with the magazine. They would have obviously asked about DNF. Maybe George threw them a bone and they genuinely do have something to announce on DNF. So they created that blurb and we might get a paragraph at best about DNF in a 2-4 page preview of Prey.

I think that's possible. Doubtful. But possible.
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Old 04-17-2005, 09:37 PM   #45
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Just some food for thought. What if the advertisement for a level creator was in reference to Prey (not DNF) and that the hype of Prey is actually hyping DNF (which is closer to release than Prey). It would be a much cooler surprise if you think about it. That way, DNF gets the exclusive....Prey is covered in a few paragraphs leaving the rest of the hype for Prey to speculation in the forums (much like DNF). I know that sounds backwards, but it is just another thought.

Either way, I think both will be covered in the issue. My thought above may be just a dumb idea, but I like leaving the door open to possibilities.
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Old 04-17-2005, 09:44 PM   #46
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I changed my mind. I realize now that Human Head would have advertised for a level designer much like they did in October:

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(thanks: Shacknews). We remind you that Human Head Studios was looking in October 2004 for an experienced level designer for "an unannounced Doom3 engine based game", so there are big chances that Prey to be powered by DOOM III engine.
So, if anything, I think I realized now a potential time frame. October to now for Prey(approx 6 months of level designing before the announcement). This means DNF could be about 6 months from an announcement with the same logic.
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Old 04-17-2005, 09:52 PM   #47
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3DR said we would find out WID before any magazine, so I'd put money down that it's NOT DNF.
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:01 PM   #48
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how can prey be one of the biggest franchises in pc gaming history when a game was never released?
I agree. I don't see how people are missing this, unless they're ignorant of the definition of a "franchise". Prey may be in the next PC Gamer, but it can't be what PC Gamer is referring to in that teaser. Their Prey feature might not fill a page. Don't assume it's the main feature, or worthy of the biggest hype. Prey is, at best, a footnote in the history PC gaming.

Serious Sam doesn't fit that description, either.

It could be any one of a number of gaming franchises. Could it be Tomb Raider? A new Sim City game? The last Myst game? King's Quest? Whatever they're referring to, it's not Prey.
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:32 PM   #49
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Hm. I would actually not be surprised if it is DNF. I just got a distinct impression that they need level designers more for Prey than DNF at this point. Maybe they have gotten to the point of help for just finish polishing. I think they said they would announce DNF about 6 months before release (like others mentioned here). Just in time for Christmas 2005 would not be too far fetched would it? I was just thinking of something mentioned by GB that said something like 'you have been waiting for quite a while. We will have to do something about that'. Besides what George said was that we would know when the game is WID, not when it was going to be announced/previewed', right? Oh, here I go getting all excited again like so many times before.
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:38 PM   #50
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how can prey be one of the biggest franchises in pc gaming history when a game was never released?
I agree. I don't see how people are missing this, unless they're ignorant of the definition of a "franchise". Prey may be in the next PC Gamer, but it can't be what PC Gamer is referring to in that teaser. Their Prey feature might not fill a page. Don't assume it's the main feature, or worthy of the biggest hype. Prey is, at best, a footnote in the history PC gaming.

Serious Sam doesn't fit that description, either.

It could be any one of a number of gaming franchises. Could it be Tomb Raider? A new Sim City game? The last Myst game? King's Quest? Whatever they're referring to, it's not Prey.
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:43 AM   #51
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3DR said we would find out WID before any magazine, so I'd put money down that it's NOT DNF.
3dr also said prey was on hold, and a bunch of other shit. Oh and Serious Sam is not one of the biggest franchises in gaming. My money is on DNF. I would bet that the Prey thing that we have been seeing is a ploy to get it hype which it has. Hype the game that will need it, while keeping your real hand hidden till the right time to show it. DNF will hype itself, Prey will need extra help at least for a little while. Oh and since when has Kaiser been against a conspiracy theory.
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Old 04-18-2005, 12:50 AM   #52
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Prey is not "one of the biggest franchises in PC gaming", but I wouldn't put it past PC Gamer to call it that. Anyway George said there were more than 2 screenshots, likely meaning a multi page article.

At best, they'll be some combined DNF/Prey info.
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Old 04-18-2005, 01:08 AM   #53
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I don't trust ANYTHING PC Gamer has to say. Nothing, Nada, Zip, Zilch!

Sheesh guys, HOW many times has PC Gamer used Duke Nukem Forever to sell their rag? Anyone remember the partial Nuke symbol and big issue way back? I never did find out what game that was, but it sure hinted at DNF... as they do all the time and as they are doing now.

I don't trust anything they say anymore and won't spend a dime on their rag.

EVERY TIME they say something that sounds DNFish... a thread pops up and people get their hopes up (and PC Gamer probably sells more issues).
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Old 04-18-2005, 01:17 AM   #54
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EVERY TIME they say something that sounds DNFish...
Duke Nukem Fish...?
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Old 04-18-2005, 01:29 AM   #55
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i've been a long time gamer but to be honest i never heard about a game called prey before. now it might just be me who missed out the game but seriously, "One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming" has got to be something bigger. something everybody who got the slightest connection to pc gaming should know. not sure what i wanted to say by that. nevermind
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Old 04-18-2005, 02:02 AM   #56
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You never played prey because it was canned, now rumours say it is restarted. (not officially confirmed yet however).

As for news regarding DNF, I will only trust that if it is posted on the front page of the 3DR website. As should you all do!!!

NEVER EVER trust the media for news. Most of that is just attempts to sell their stuff and/or earn money.
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Old 04-18-2005, 02:05 AM   #57
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You never played prey because it was canned, now rumours say it is restarted. (not officially confirmed yet however).

As for news regarding DNF, I will only trust that if it is posted on the front page of the 3DR website. As should you all do!!!

NEVER EVER trust the media for news. Most of that is just attempts to sell their stuff and/or earn money.
www.prey.com

And George confirmed it is in production and will be in the PC gamer. Oh on that website wait a few secs.
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Old 04-18-2005, 02:31 AM   #58
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Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.
This just proves that it is Prey and not DNF. Prey has been as far as we knew dead for several years. It was a huge thing when it was first started so now it is back and so it is a big franchise. Though I could be wrong.
Except of course that Prey was never here in the firs place, so it can't 'return', and it most certainly wasn't 'big', let alone 'franchise'.
 
Old 04-18-2005, 02:39 AM   #59
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Tomb Raider Legend is coming, however pretty much everyone seems to know it already, it's all over the web, so it doesn't seem exactly a 'world exculsive', but then you've said PC Gamer exaggerated that. The franchise that's returning in PC Gamer is Tomb Raider.
 
Old 04-18-2005, 02:47 AM   #60
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You never played prey because it was canned, now rumours say it is restarted. (not officially confirmed yet however).

As for news regarding DNF, I will only trust that if it is posted on the front page of the 3DR website. As should you all do!!!

NEVER EVER trust the media for news. Most of that is just attempts to sell their stuff and/or earn money.
www.prey.com

And George confirmed it is in production and will be in the PC gamer. Oh on that website wait a few secs.
oh ok.. thanks, So prey is officially confirmed and that website thingie is cool.
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Old 04-18-2005, 03:09 AM   #61
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It could be Half Life 2. They're releasing an add-on pack for Half Life 2 this summer, you know?

That fits the bill, if you ask me. Even up to and including the usual stupid amount of hyperbole. You know 'Triumphant Return!'... but it's only been six months? 'Yes, but it's a return! And Triumphant!'

Blah. My money is on Half Life.
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Old 04-18-2005, 03:12 AM   #62
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It could be Half Life 2. They're releasing an add-on pack for Half Life 2 this summer, you know?

That fits the bill, if you ask me. Even up to and including the usual stupid amount of hyperbole. You know 'Triumphant Return!'... but it's only been six months? 'Yes, but it's a return! And Triumphant!'

Blah. My money is on Half Life.
My money is...

IN MY WALLET and there is where it will stay (at least regarding PC Gamer. ). Maybe it is DNF,. maybe it is prey and maybe they are talking about commander keen (keen 3d. ) or unreal 3 or... *fill in the blanks*. Let's wait until June ok.
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Old 04-18-2005, 03:13 AM   #63
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One of the biggest franchises in pc gaming? Well let's analyze this.

BIGGEST FRANCHISES IN PC GAMING
The Sims(no Sims 2 came out in 2004)
Civilization(maybe)
Age of Empires(no, preview of AOE3 done recently)
Warcraft(no, too soon after WC3)
Starcraft(maybe)
Half-Life(no, too soon after HL2)
Unreal Tournament(no, too soon after UT2K4)
Doom(no, too soon after D3)
Quake(no, preview of Q4 done recently)
Command and Conquer(no, too soon after C&C:G)
Duke Nukem(maybe)
Ultima(maybe)
Mechwarrior(maybe)
Jedi Knightark Forces(maybe)
Everquest(no, too soon after EQ2)
Rainbow Six(maybe)
Sim City(maybe)
Wing Commander(maybe)

Now let's analyze the 'maybes':
Civilization(info's already been leaked, no exclusive)

Starcraft(SC2 in the works? sounds good)

Duke Nukem(as good a chance as any)

Ultima(highly doubtful after latest Ultima false starts)

Mechwarrior(it'd be cool but I still think MW is dead)

JKF(doubtful since emphasis is on new SW movie)

Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon(it's possible)

Sim City(also a possibility)

Wing Commander(horrible movie took franchise with it)

FINALISTS
Starcraft
Duke Nukem
Rainbow Six/Ghost Recon
Sim City

If I were a betting man I'd say the exclusive will come down to Duke Nukem and Starcraft. I'm glad I don't bet. If the game turns out to be Tomb Raider I'll cancel my PCG subscription on the spot.
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Old 04-18-2005, 03:29 AM   #64
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Well, a new tomb raider has been announced. So everything is possible.
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Old 04-18-2005, 04:32 AM   #65
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If Prey(confirmed) and DNF both in the PCG, then DNF will greatly overshadow Prey. It's not so good for HH and 3dR. Prey needs hype, DNF is always megahyped, just throw a bone.
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Old 04-18-2005, 04:47 AM   #66
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One of the biggest franchises in pc gaming? Well let's analyze this.

BIGGEST FRANCHISES IN PC GAMING

Half-Life(no, too soon after HL2)
http://www.steampowered.com/Steam/Ma...005/?l=english

So you see it kind of depends on what you mean by too soon. Too soon to release more half life? Apparently not. Too soon for PC gamer to put Half Life back on the front cover? Yes, I agree. But PC gamer probably don't. They should just have that lambda etched into the magazine logo. Probably instead of the R. Then it would look l33t.

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Old 04-18-2005, 06:23 AM   #67
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pc gamer are a bunch of nimtards. i realize they have to sell magazines but i'm sick and tired of them using duke fans for hype.

they've done this one too many times in the past strongly hinting their "exclusive" was duke nukem forever when it's something else.

there is no way in hell "prey" fits what pc gamer writes here: "One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

i'm sorry but "prey" is not an established "franchise", let alone "one of the biggest" in pc gaming. the freaking game has never been out!

now i'm not down on "prey" at all, i'm pumped as hell for the game.

my issue is with pc gamer magazine and their continued double talk and flat out misleading news previews.

this is why fans here are debating whether it's prey or dnf. don't get pissed off at fans who think it may be dnf. the only triumphant pc game making it's return would be a duke game imho.

pc gamer could have easily worded that blurb to give a hint about prey without invoking dnf.

"in our next issue, we have the world exclusive news on a pc game that has risen from the dead and is ready
to finally make it's debut. have your "prayers" been answered?"

"prayers" is an obvious wink at "prey".
"risen from the dead" is another clue as everyone basically thought "prey" was indeed dead.

bah whatever.

i'm gonna go to pc gamer headquarters and straighten shit out over there.
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Old 04-18-2005, 06:36 AM   #68
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On the other hand if they'd be honest it would be something like this:

"In our next issue we have, again, nothing that special. We could have announced a few articles as the biggest game franchise's ever, but most of you don't really care anyway."

That would have been a great seller.
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Old 04-18-2005, 06:40 AM   #69
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On the other hand if they'd be honest it would be something like this:

"In our next issue we have, again, nothing that special. We could have announced a few articles as the biggest game franchise's ever, but most of you don't really care anyway."

That would have been a great seller.



but then again, Prey IS special... i can feel it
Prey was in development since 2001, i wonder what they have done with that doom 3 engine... i think it will be really great game

i hope that it wount be as dark as doom though
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Old 04-18-2005, 06:49 AM   #70
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Prey has never happened so how can it be a franchise?

If Prey is ramped up in PC Gamer before DNF dont you think that is a bit of a kick in the teeth.

3DR said they would finish DNF before starting anything else, even if someone else does Prey they still must have a lot of input!!
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:23 AM   #71
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If it is DNF then it makes you think. 3DR is saying wait till June for PC Gamer to unveil Prey. Meanwhile they are really side tracting us so we forget about DNF for a while.

However if DNF is in the June issue then I will be extremely happy and extremely sad. If DNF is shown or released at the same time as Prey then Prey will fall into the shadows.
Not if DNF is X-BOX exclusiv
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:29 AM   #72
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If it is DNF then it makes you think. 3DR is saying wait till June for PC Gamer to unveil Prey. Meanwhile they are really side tracting us so we forget about DNF for a while.

However if DNF is in the June issue then I will be extremely happy and extremely sad. If DNF is shown or released at the same time as Prey then Prey will fall into the shadows.
Not if DNF is X-BOX exclusiv
Now that is what I call blasphemy.
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Old 04-18-2005, 08:55 AM   #73
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This just proves that it is Prey and not DNF. Prey has been as far as we knew dead for several years. It was a huge thing when it was first started so now it is back and so it is a big franchise. Though I could be wrong.
The term "franchise" means a series of games. Prey has never even been one game.
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Old 04-18-2005, 09:16 AM   #74
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Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2
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Old 04-18-2005, 09:20 AM   #75
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Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2
that series needs to be put to pasture.

battlefield 1942 and battlefield 2 will have that covered.

i'm still thinking we're getting "worked" and that we may indeed see dnf next month along with prey.

i think 3dr can show both games off and it wouldn't hurt either one.
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Old 04-18-2005, 09:39 AM   #76
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Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2
that series needs to be put to pasture.


Same could be said for Duke!
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:24 AM   #77
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The term "franchise" means a series of games. Prey has never even been one game.
Surprisingly it doesn't. Though it is usually used in the same sentence as a series.
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:29 AM   #78
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Does anyone know when the June PC Gamer will be out ?
Because I'll spend my all day refreshing this forum when it's out .
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:49 AM   #79
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Well, believe it or not it will be out in June.
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Old 04-18-2005, 10:49 AM   #80
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Relax,it's just Team Fortress 2
that series needs to be put to pasture.


Same could be said for Duke!
The same was said for Prey and look what happened there
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