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Old 02-13-2007, 12:42 PM   #1
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Enhancing Duke's Spritely Appearance part 3
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:38 PM   #2
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Woohoo! First reply!

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Old 02-13-2007, 05:58 PM   #3
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Looks great!!

Can't wait for the next HRP with all this good stuff inside.
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Old 02-13-2007, 05:58 PM   #4
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Oh yes! Good one!
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:12 PM   #5
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Cool! I didn't even include this on my Ep1 todo list because I didn't see it still was lowres! Well done.
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:14 PM   #6
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What's the revised 'to do' list then. How much stuff have we got left?
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Old 02-13-2007, 10:32 PM   #7
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Dingbat, would you be so kind as to post a picture of the original teleportation sprite frames, for our reference?
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Old 02-14-2007, 01:57 AM   #8
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Good Start!
Nice Work, gt1750!
You could make in the same style and "MOTEL", "CINEMA", " HOTEL (0777, 0778) ".
Still it is necessary to alter "ARCADE".

p.s. It was my first work for Duke which I wished to make. But has not made.
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Old 02-14-2007, 09:08 AM   #9
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I won't tell you what to do. Here's just the list.
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                             DUKE3D HRP EPISODE 1 TO-DO-LIST
                             -------------------------------       
                                     February 14, 2007
                            =================================



Models/Props
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551 (DOMELITE) - work in progress (Tea Monster)
991 (shower) - work in progress (Roma Loom)


Characters (babes, monsters)
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679 (Battlelord Holoimage) - work in progress (Tea Monster)
1317-1320 (FEM2/bar dancer)
1325-1330 (FEM4/cave dancer)


HUD
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2576/2577 (TIP)
[2581 (SCUBAMASK)] - highres skin available; model needed 


Textures
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1298-1305 (FEMPIC3) - work in progress (Yatta)


Effects
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634-637 (BOLT1)
1255-1259 (CEILING STEAM) 
1360-1379 (Octabrain fire) - work in progress (Yatta -> needs help with animation)
1656-1659 (SHRINKEREXPLOSION)
2271 (FIRE)
2300 (OOZ)
2309 (OOZ2)
2311 (FIRE2)


Ep.1 Cutscene
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3260-3268 (VICTORY1)



====================
Optional (E1L7/E1L8)
====================


Optional Characters
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490 (Emperor Holoimage) - work in progress (Tea Monster)


Optional Textures
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330
1100
1138
1151
1152
3330 (Female Holoframe)
3430-3437 (Developer Heads)
3440/3442-3448 (Developer Portraits)
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Old 02-14-2007, 11:25 AM   #10
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Cool stuff. The Emperor Holo Image was released this morning.
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Old 02-14-2007, 03:37 PM   #11
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Yeah. The most important undone part on this list probably is #1317, the bar dancer. This one really sticks out in E1L2 now.
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Old 02-14-2007, 05:38 PM   #12
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Yeah. The most important undone part on this list probably is #1317, the bar dancer. This one really sticks out in E1L2 now.
The original were sprites, right? They turned towards you and so you never see their faces. Can we not just use the breast-flashing strippers already made to model the other bar dancers. The only real difference is that the (currently 'sprited') dancers have black/blonde) hair. Can I suggest we have one with jet black hair and one with blonde hair as the sprites make it difficult for us to work out how the hair should be. Might add a bit of variety as well.
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:09 PM   #13
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This was the idea behind Parkar's 'Babe SDK'.
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:17 PM   #14
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This was the idea behind Parkar's 'Babe SDK'.
Oh right. I've found it over in the Tutorial sticky. Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 02-14-2007, 06:51 PM   #15
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also, the 2nd stripper has a pole and a different outfit. because of the babe sdk, the amount of work is less, but not completely trivial. it would require a new UV map, or at least an altered one, and some changes to the mesh, not so little ones at that. the animations are also very different.
is it possible to add a flashing animation since the game didn't have one? I am not exactly sure how that particular sprite reacted to the "use" button.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:23 PM   #16
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As long as the game/con files have some sort of reaction to the use command, you should be able to do an animation for it.
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Old 02-14-2007, 07:57 PM   #17
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I am not exactly sure how that particular sprite reacted to the "use" button.
The sprite didn't do anything, but Duke would do the handing money animation and one liner like with the prostitute or the other stripper.
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:02 PM   #18
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So there was basically no interactive animation with this stripper. It's just the cycled dancing animation.

Sorry if I'm just saying what we already know
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:10 PM   #19
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The sprite didn't do anything, but Duke would do the handing money animation and one liner like with the prostitute or the other stripper.
that doesn't mean the sprite didn't do anything. there is a result for the "use" button. I knew duke did his "shake it baby" thing, but I wasn't sure if we could add in there the same type of thing there is for the other stripper. There is nothing new with the hooker, but that was made a long time ago and there isn't much to do with that one anyway.

I think the problem might be tiles, there is another set of tiles referenced when you "use" the stripper facing you, but there isn't one for the others.
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Old 02-14-2007, 08:27 PM   #20
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You could theoretically just extend the animation. Instead of 3 frames you use 20 or so and put in the extra actions. It would play all the time though. The flash would probably look silly on stage, but you could get a lot sexier dance out of it that way.
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Old 02-15-2007, 05:56 AM   #21
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Well all that babe basically has to do is shake her ass! That's not asked too much, don't ya think?
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Old 02-15-2007, 09:36 AM   #22
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Not too much, but you could get her sliding up and down the pole as well. You could kinda get carried away. But then nobody would pay any attention to the monsters!
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Old 02-15-2007, 12:07 PM   #23
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Dingbat, would you be so kind as to post a picture of the original teleportation sprite frames, for our reference?
No...why...it's dead. Besides it's supposed to be modelled? I have all the latest files and what i see in game looks like shit. and you can get the originals out of editart.
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Old 02-15-2007, 04:56 PM   #24
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My 4319 & 4320 Updated:

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Old 02-15-2007, 05:47 PM   #25
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Will you update these for Nuclear Winter HRP too, please?
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Old 02-15-2007, 06:08 PM   #26
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Red Neon Signboards
To gt1750: If you do not have time, you can give me the original 1007 in PSD. And on the basis of it I shall make all other red neon signboards. Thus, they will be all in one style.

Send yours to 1007 me on mail: [email protected]
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:37 PM   #27
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gt1750, i regret, but red neon signboards, you will make better me. They at me badly turn out. Your creation will understand only you.
It is silly - I ask to send me the following your work. But I so also have not made anything.
I shall make tiles which will turn out so it is more correct!

Success to you with neon tiles!

I shall be better to move ahead further...
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Old 02-17-2007, 04:52 PM   #28
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It looks like the only neon stuff to do is the Motel, Alley Cat Lounge and XXX-Stacy signs... I might do that when I have time (probably in a week or so)
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Old 02-18-2007, 08:01 AM   #29
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Here comes tile 602 (solar panel). Also posted all my current work (as .blend files) in Duke Nukem 3D Modelling Project part 3
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:53 PM   #30
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Regarding #1298... no comment (only that Yatta did this):

http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/109...4486108_rs.jpg

If anyone of you thinks he can improve this or make a new one from scratch, go right ahead. I can give you the images if necessary.
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Old 02-27-2007, 07:52 PM   #31
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If I remember well, Rellik66 (or however it's spelled) did all screen babes with Poser... what about this one ?
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Old 02-28-2007, 06:32 AM   #32
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Very well. Just see to it the styles look similar.
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:13 AM   #33
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If you haven't got poser, there is always 'Make Human'.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:56 AM   #34
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Not an good idea,
this is an screen of an woman's face up close, the model has to be extremely well done for it to look not weird.
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Old 02-28-2007, 12:20 PM   #35
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Yeah, I did most of the fem posters with Poser, but I don't have access to poser anymore.

That one would have been really complicated for me considering the complicated expressions, movement and what not. I don't think there was a "orgasmic expression" anywhere in the morphs .
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:23 PM   #36
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Well, if you used MakeHuman, you could do it with a high detail mesh, focus on the face entirely, as nothing else is seen in the original. Add a hair background. Once again, this isn't real time so the poly count can be as high as you want/need. you also don't need UVs or anything like that. If you don't want to spend the time rendering it, my new machine is pretty much built for rendering CGI. I have only used it for games and setting up linux since I got it last week, but I did some test renders of scenes and they are done almost 3 times as fast as before. An idea of how fast: 300,000+ faces in 17~30 seconds at 640*480 with raytracing and particles. Before it took a minute per frame.
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:41 PM   #37
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The Octabrain mindblast (1360-1379) is done!

Download it here!

Sample frame (1373):


Enjoy

EDIT: Just realized I didn't choose the best looking one. Please comment after you've tried it in game. Don't be surprised you get a laggy/choppy animation the first few times when Octabrain fires at you - it's smoother when all of the frames are cached.
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:45 PM   #38
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This image is cut on the buttom... it's not like that in the actual final Animation is it..? (is it an animation..? i'm guessing yes)
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:50 PM   #39
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Of course it's animated, just download the zip file with all frames and def.

You won't notice that stupid bottom cut-off in the game.
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Old 02-28-2007, 06:23 PM   #40
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Very good job on the mental blast, gt. Very close to original. Looks good as texture as seen on E1L5, too.
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