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2K Games (Take-Two Interactive) 8 13.56%
Activision Blizzard 2 3.39%
Atari 2 3.39%
Bethesda Softworks 16 27.12%
Capcom 3 5.08%
Disney Interactive Studios 3 5.08%
Electronic Arts 12 20.34%
Funcom 1 1.69%
LucasArts 1 1.69%
Microsoft 5 8.47%
SEGA 2 3.39%
THQ 1 1.69%
Ubisoft 2 3.39%
Warner Bros. Interactive 1 1.69%
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:09 AM   #41
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What innovations did we see in Crysis? Besides the aggressive PR campaign, which didn't work at all.
a game with such an impressive first person cinematic experience with a physics engine that was extremely impressive and a graphical revolution that still is the industry's greatest two years after release...

to fund a PC exclusive game like that earns the respect for EA IMO...

but lets not start a pro contra crysis discussion here please...
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Old 07-09-2009, 02:19 AM   #42
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I would say either microsoft, ID software, or Blizzard Entertainment. All 3 companies have excellent marketing, and know the best way to promote their games, in my opinion.
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Old 07-09-2009, 04:29 AM   #43
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Huh? id and Blizzard are developers. They don't publish games.
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Old 07-09-2009, 12:47 PM   #44
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Huh? id and Blizzard are developers. They don't publish games.
Well, they do now that they're Activision-Blizzard, but I doubt that's what he was referring to.
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:19 PM   #45
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Maybe RADAR can help duke out
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Old 07-09-2009, 05:39 PM   #46
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Maybe RADAR can help duke out
maybe they already did?!
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:05 PM   #47
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How Radar group could be of any help? I can't see it...something else is up...
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:51 PM   #48
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Who are you , your're saying elaborate offerings , EA is the worst SHIT CRAP
ever.

For independent developers , IT'S A HELL FOR THEM.
Really? Ask that to Pandemic and Bioware. Ask it to Visceral Games. Ask it to id when EA was still working with them. Ask this to Mythic Entertainment. Don't forget Crytek, Maxis, VALVe, DICE, Double Fine, and Criterion Games. Are they going through hell right now? Absolutely not. In matter of fact, EA has done a complete turn around from their "evil ways" and are much easier to work with. But you wouldn't know that since you consider them to be as bad as the devil and fill some pretty nice bullshit to go around. In-game advertising? Bah, I haven't seen a single inch of that in Mass Effect, Red Alert 3, Warhammer: Online, etc. Don't pull this bullshit, since you obviously have no clue about EA anymore.

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Destroyed Westwood and C&C, and countless other studios
Yeah, back then. Before John Riccitiello became the new CEO and even publicly stated that EA would be changing its "evil ways". Again, you obviously must not read anything about EA anymore since they are the root of all evil.

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Don't say something you don't remotely know about, or are you some EA spy here!? EA Partners is just a part of EA publishing services.
Don't say something you don't remotely know about either. Ignorance seems to be your strong suit here and its a practical failure as well. We know EA Partners is part of EA's publishing service, but hey it seems like every developer that is part of this is very happy with EA Partners.

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Microsoft's a crap too, destroyed ENSEMBLE! (Now What will happen with Age of Empires)
Again, if you actually read news on the gaming world you'd probably know what has currently happened. Ensemble pretty much split into two different companies. Bonfire Studios is working on a game already. Robot Entertainment is in charge of maintaining Halo Wars and Age of Empires. See? You see right there? That Age of Empires is still fine and will continue to live? But then again, you're pretty ignorant on the matter, so everything I'll probably say is a lie.

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What am I saying anyway , just from a standard viewpoint EA and M& are the worst game publishers/developers.
What I'm saying is that you are a pretty ignorant person. And anyone else who still calls EA "the most evil company in the world".
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:23 PM   #49
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i think it should go to id software they've made some pretty kick ass titles like the quake and doom series plus the new wolfenstein coming out

yep deffinatly id imo

if i see the EA logo ill just lose it
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:29 PM   #50
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i think it should go to id software they've made some pretty kick ass titles like the quake and doom series plus the new wolfenstein coming out

yep deffinatly id imo

if i see the EA logo ill just lose it
id Software is a game DEVELOPER, not a ******* publisher. Activision was their publisher. Then EA became their publisher for Rage. And now Zenimax just bought id.

Again, I still fail to see what is wrong with EA anymore. Everyone who still harps on them must continue to think that perform satanic rituals and make sure every game published by them is utter crap. Seriously, grow up.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:15 AM   #51
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I don't give a crap about how the hell is publishing the game. Developer matters.
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Old 07-10-2009, 01:25 AM   #52
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a game with such an impressive first person cinematic experience with a physics engine that was extremely impressive and a graphical revolution that still is the industry's greatest two years after release...

to fund a PC exclusive game like that earns the respect for EA IMO...

but lets not start a pro contra crysis discussion here please...
Well, the first section is matter of taste. The cinematic?(I didn't find it at all cinmatic) wasn't cinematic nor impressive in my opinion. There have been numerous better executions of said features. Mafia for one, and more recent example would be Mass Effect.

As for physics and graphics - you have to have a monster PC to run it, and to see that. Even today. I bet id or EPIC could throw together a more impressive looking engine, and it too wouldn't run on most PCs. I just don't see the point in that. You can have good looking games without sacrificing virgins to satan.
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:58 AM   #53
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Again, I still fail to see what is wrong with EA anymore. Everyone who still harps on them must continue to think that perform satanic rituals and make sure every game published by them is utter crap. Seriously, grow up.
What EA done in the past will stick to them forever (just money grubbing whores releasing the same game over and over with one or two new things added in), no amount of "Oh they changed now" can clear them of it.

Just like in real life you have a hard time trusting a person accused of several robberies to watch your house while you go on vacation.
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Old 07-26-2009, 12:52 PM   #54
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Nope Nope definitly not. EA as the publishers is a terrible idea because its true everything they make is crap and they have crappy support. Microsoft is no better either I can't connect to windows live correctly it lets me connect but when it says you must download the update or you'll be disconnected automatically it says unable to download update check your internet connection. I'd say Activision or Valve would be a much better choice.
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Old 07-26-2009, 01:31 PM   #55
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My number 1 choice of publisher? That would be 3DRealms itself. But I don't ever see that happening, and even if it ever did someday, it would only be online sales.
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Old 07-26-2009, 05:29 PM   #56
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See it from the bright side guys. Nothing could be worse than GB and his former team!

Both Microsoft and EA are light years better than the former 3DRealms.
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Old 07-26-2009, 05:41 PM   #57
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Mayybeee.... I might take a blw here but, Remedy. I don't Know
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:13 AM   #58
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At this point any one who gets the game on the shelf that is a known popular company I do not care I just want to experience this mind blowing video game,

I have been waiting for my entire freaking life for this game.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:58 AM   #59
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They aren't in the publishing business at all. Still, self-published as digital delivery over steam is the best bet.
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:09 AM   #60
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At his point, EA just means "customer milking machine that doesn't care once the game is out (with tons of bugs)", I've seen enough of EA with the Battlefield games.
Microsoft? They have a bad tendency of making games Xbox only, no thanks
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:00 AM   #61
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TOP Choice: Bethesda Softworks

High Choice: Ubisoft , Activision

Low Choice: THQ , Atari , Sega

WORST SHIT CHOICE: €A & MICRO$OFT
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:15 AM   #62
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Huh? id and Blizzard are developers. They don't publish games.
Aren't they? Don't they create and produce their own game and still do all the marketing stuff so they don't have to worry about shipping dates and budget restraints and things like that?

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Nope Nope definitly not. EA as the publishers is a terrible idea because its true everything they make is crap and they have crappy support. Microsoft is no better either I can't connect to windows live correctly it lets me connect but when it says you must download the update or you'll be disconnected automatically it says unable to download update check your internet connection. I'd say Activision or Valve would be a much better choice.
Sort of of off topic, but, in regards to your Windows Live dilemma, it sounds to me like you may have the downloader disabled within your firewall.
I use zonealarm for instance, and it always pop up with "so and so program is trying to run on your computer" and I can choose wether to give it internet acess and server rights or block it entirely. If I didn't recognize the name, I used to block these things, but then I found stuff on my computer wasn't working. I'd suggest investigating your firewall settings in case you restriced internet rights to the download program by accident.
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Old 07-31-2009, 05:20 AM   #63
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EA >>>>>>>> Activision

You can't be serious, do you really want 3DR to get the extremely bad treatment that Activision gives its developers? You must be really really out of date with your information about EA. EA Partners is a division dedicated to top independent studios with low or no publisher dependence that is known to treat their developers really well and giving them the freedom they need and the help they need. Want to handle your own marketing? Fine. Want EA to handle the marketing? That is fine too. Etc. On the other hand Acitivision is known to treat development studios like shit and for stuff like really onerous contract provisions, etc.

Bethesda Softworks on the other hand might be a good choice. ZeniMax/Bethesda are really showing their great potential as an up and comer in the publishing business.

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"Aren't they? Don't they create and produce their own game and still do all the marketing stuff so they don't have to worry about shipping dates and budget restraints and things like that?"

Blizzard Entertainment is an autonomous division of Activision-Blizzard and they DO handle their own marketing and stuff, but ultimately that is pretty much semantics since they are PART of Activision-Blizzard(Just as Activision is). Prior to the ZeniMax acquisition id did none of that, they just were a self-funded development studio. So yes they weren't dependent on their publishers for funding and they got to own their own IP's and got good deals from the publishers they had, on a game by game basis. Now id are owned by a publisher.
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:15 AM   #64
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Well yes ID software won't use Activision either , maybe it's that bad , but wonder why Call of Dutyies work so well , either way , don't , Infinity Ward is angry cause nonoriginal Treyarch is taking away half of the credits about Call of Duty cause Activision wants Call of Duty out every year meh
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Old 08-02-2009, 05:40 AM   #65
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IMO Take2 did nothing wrong. On the other hand, 3drealms failed to communicate with their fans (I'm still waiting for an official statement from George on this website and not on some random news website).

Sorry, but I don't see why we would change the publisher, another publisher could also have started this lawsuit. Thus, my first choice is Take2.

(perhaps I will change my mind when more information will be available)
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:43 PM   #66
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Old 08-02-2009, 07:48 PM   #67
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id Software is a game DEVELOPER, not a ******* publisher. Activision was their publisher. Then EA became their publisher for Rage. And now Zenimax just bought id.

Again, I still fail to see what is wrong with EA anymore. Everyone who still harps on them must continue to think that perform satanic rituals and make sure every game published by them is utter crap. Seriously, grow up.
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:24 PM   #68
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ID can! Remember back in the ID developed and Apogee published games? (Wolf3d, keen's1-5) Maybe they can reunite except the other way around?
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Old 08-02-2009, 09:58 PM   #69
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Microsoft blows ass. They're busy promoting their Xbox 360 and Live service and so the PC version will either be delayed indefinitely (possibly reserved to promote their new operating system or something) or never get released. They took Alan Wake and forced the developers to dumb the game down and stopped development on the PC version so that the Xbox 360 would be the lead platform. Asstivision isn't any better. They're jacking up the price on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 to cash in on the popularity of the first game.

EA was terrible before, but I think they've improved a lot. I'd say that's the best option besides 3D Realms self-publishing the game.
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Old 08-03-2009, 07:51 AM   #70
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personally i dont care who the publisher should be, as long it comes out and is a kick ass game. but if i did care i think it should still be T2, it would save time instead of 3DR looking around for a new potential publisher and the money 3DR might have to pay T2 for lost revenue.
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Old 08-03-2009, 08:05 AM   #71
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well, whoever it is it'll be someone
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Old 08-03-2009, 09:39 AM   #72
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If 3D Realms win the case and want the game published then chances are T2 won't publish it unless the courts order them to. Pubs don't generally like to publish games which they have tried suing the developers over and lost. Similarly devs don't generally choose to have their game published by a pub who has just sued them over it.

Activision shouldn't be too bright a choice for them either, considering how apt Activision are for suing their (ex-)developers with little reason (see the Brutal Legend fiasco) as well as the way they milk franchises to death and will hand them off to other devs purely to crap atleast one out every single year (see Tony Hawks, Guitar Hero, Call Of Duty) and don't give new franchises the marketting and publicity they deserve (see Singularity)

EA are a lot better a choice as they've turned themselves right around in recent years. They now care about improving their long running sports titles, they're more open to listening to their fans, they take chances on new franchises with potential (see Dead Space, Dantes Inferno, Skate, Brutal Legend) they work extremely well with independant or near-independant studios (see Crytek, Harmonix, Valve, ID before being bought by ZeniMax) they aim for a 2-year dev cycle on most major franchises instead of the typical 1-year dev cycle and just generally seem to be more for encouraging devs to be innovative than making them do innocuous low risk games. They've basically become the complete opposite of what they're historically known for.

It would be very interesting if ZeniMax bought 3DR, though, as that would make a power house of a group. With 3DR's talent for creating strong I.P. ideas to sell on (see Max Payne, Prey, Earth No More), ID's technological skill and Bethesda's developer and publisher clout, money and position in the industry, there would be a lot of potential classics that could be made.
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Old 08-03-2009, 04:16 PM   #73
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in my personal opinion this is a hard question because there are things about duke nukem we would die for and that we are afraid the publishers might take away such as one liners or titties, we have to look for a publisher that would think the closest to 3DR, MY ANSWER VALVE!! haha no just kidding even though half life is my favorite game of all times I wouldn't want duke nukem to be turned to a game like half life, or portal. I am pretty sure valve would tell them to take stuff off the game, which would get us pissed, I guess I am gonna go with bethesda.
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Old 08-03-2009, 04:28 PM   #74
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in my personal opinion this is a hard question because there are things about duke nukem we would die for and that we are afraid the publishers might take away such as one liners or titties, we have to look for a publisher that would think the closest to 3DR, MY ANSWER VALVE!! haha no just kidding even though half life is my favorite game of all times I wouldn't want duke nukem to be turned to a game like half life, or portal. I am pretty sure valve would tell them to take stuff off the game, which would get us pissed, I guess I am gonna go with bethesda.
Pretty sure Valve doesn't publish but is more of a developer man :P

Anyway I'd still like to see it published under Apogee. Setting up another company to become 3dr rather than renaming the company would have been the best, and for Apogee to continue publishing. I guess hindsight is 20/20 though :P
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Old 08-03-2009, 06:45 PM   #75
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If they do win and "break free", I think they should give Take2 a call.
Because this is DNF, so it woudnt even be that wierd really.
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:46 AM   #76
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There, now this thread has a poll as well. Scroll up as much as possible and you should see it right away.


The one that kicks or is to be kicked?
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What innovations did we see in Crysis? Besides the aggressive PR campaign, which didn't work at all.
Crysis showed the amaizing ability to Autosave right before you die. I smashed a keyboard due to anger caused by this feature.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:47 AM   #78
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Btw, Ubisoft is Square Enix now.
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Old 08-05-2009, 04:25 AM   #79
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No, you are confusing them with Eidos.
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Old 08-05-2009, 05:13 AM   #80
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