where is alien carnage in the store?

[abnormal]

it prolly been said a million times before, but why isnt alien carnage in the store? didnt apogee make it?

[Frenkel]

Alien Carnage doesn't work right on modern PCs so they don't sell it anymore.

[Joe Siegler]

abnormal said:
it prolly been said a million times before, but why isnt alien carnage in the store? didnt apogee make it?

Discontinued.

[Lengis]

Frenkel said:
Alien Carnage doesn't work right on modern PCs so they don't sell it anymore.

It almost never worked. It was a good game if you could ever get it to run.

[Frenkel]

Joe3DR said:
Discontinued.

That was the word I was looking for.

[Joe Siegler]

Frenkel said:

That was the word I was looking for.

Well, look at this page. There's a paragraph about our discontinued games.

http://www.3drealms.com/prices.html

[abnormal]

Joe3DR said:

Well, look at this page. There's a paragraph about our discontinued games.

http://www.3drealms.com/prices.html

might work it dos box. i had the full game in 96'. too bad. think i might have to resort to ebay.

[avatar_58]

Works great in dosbox (man...I've said that like 5 times today... ) I played it a while back. Never could get into this game....I hated running out of fuel

[The Puppet Master]

Alien Carnage (or Holloween Harry as it was origonally called) is a great game. Last time I checked, Tech support has a link to download two programs that make it work on windows 98. I think one was called MoSlo?

[Lengis]

Just curious, was the game poorly programmed or something? I remember quite well that it was really buggy, and rarely ran even on computers at the time.

[Joe Siegler]

Lengis said:
Just curious, was the game poorly programmed or something? I remember quite well that it was really buggy, and rarely ran even on computers at the time.

Care to define "buggy"? People throw that around without facts to back it up generally.

At the time it was new, I don't remember it having any more problems than anything else did.

[Ras]

where is alien carnage in the store?

In your grocer's produce section.

[Lengis]

Joe3DR said:

Care to define "buggy"? People throw that around without facts to back it up generally.

At the time it was new, I don't remember it having any more problems than anything else did.

Buggy as in it wasn't well coded. It would work on some computers but not most of them. I remember trying to get this game to work some computers at the time, very few of them could get it running, and when it did, the music and sound didn't work.

It's also the only legacy game that won't run on my win98/dos computer, which runs all the other old apogee games fine.

[Joe Siegler]

It's also the only legacy game that won't run on my win98/dos computer, which runs all the other old apogee games fine.

What about Mystic Towers then? They shared some of the same code.

Lengis said:
Just curious, was the game poorly programmed or something? I remember quite well that it was really buggy, and rarely ran even on computers at the time.

Nope it wasn't programmed poorly. It's because of the software they used to program it.....PASCAL I think!

[Little Conqueror]

Lengis said:

It almost never worked. It was a good game if you could ever get it to run.

It was a damn fine game. I would buy it today for $20.

[Lengis]

Joe3DR said:

What about Mystic Towers then? They shared some of the same code.

Just downloaded the shareware. Says it can't find the install file, but it's there. That's the file I'm running even.

Btw, the error message I get when trying to run Alien Carnage is,

Runtime error 200 at 00CF:0091

[Joe Siegler]

RTE 200 means you need to use MoSlo or something like that.

[Lengis]

Yea, works now..... although barely. I never liked those slow down proggies, they never seem to work properly. Sound still doesn't work though, which is consistent with how I remember it many years ago.

[Frenkel]

http://www.3drealms.com/tech/aliencarnage.html

[twelvepaws]

["....I hated running out of fuel"]

[/QUOTE]

That, plus the zombies wouldn't stay killed, and when you killed them again, you wouldn't get coins. Other than that, I enjoyed the game. Unfortunately, I never got the registered version.

I'm going to keep all the disks I do have for the discontinued games in my safe!!!!

[twelvepaws]

Well, I sure messed that up. I forgot to credit Avatar_58 for the quote. Also, I forgot how to make the quote appear in a box. Sorry...mentally challenged all day today.

[Malvineous]

Hmm, I always thought Alien Carnage was just Episode 3 of Halloween Harry. Well either way, you can fix the Runtime 200 problem by patching the affected .EXE files using a program like TPPatch.

Just run it on all the .EXE files, e.g. "tppatch harry.exe" and it'll fix the runtime 200 error - bearing in mind that with Halloween Harry and probably Alien Carnage there are more EXE files than you probably think - you'll need to run it on at least these files:

HARRY.EXE
HARRY0.-0
HARRY1.-0
HARRY2.-0
HARRY3.-0
HARRY4.-0
HARRY5.-0
HARRY8.-0
HARRY9.-0
HARRY10.-0
HARRY11.-0
HARRY13.-0
HARRY14.-0
HARRY15.-0
HARRY99.-0

And possibly also these files, if you have them:

HH-HELP.EXE
HH-HINT.EXE
STUDIO.EXE

Once you've done that, you should be able to run it without any problems. If in doubt, just "tppatch" every file in the directory, and it'll fix the ones that need it and ignore the rest.

After this you should be able to play it without any slowdown utilities, and if you use DOSBox, with full sound and music.

[Hudson]

Halloween Harry FTW

[Kristian Joensen]

Malvineous said:
Hmm, I always thought Alien Carnage was just Episode 3 of Halloween Harry.

No, Alien Carnage is Halloween Harry with Episode 3 and Episode 1 swaped and I think maybe afew other changes.

[Malvineous]

Oh, well that explains it - I only ever saw the shareware version of Alien Carnage which would've just been Halloween Harry Ep3. Alien Carnage also compressed most of the game data, which Halloween Harry didn't.

[Joe Siegler]

Kristian Joensen said:

No, Alien Carnage is Halloween Harry with Episode 3 and Episode 1 swaped and I think maybe afew other changes.

Episodes are rearranged. Title changed. Price dropped at the time the change was made (I think). That was about it. The game play/levels/art is unchanged.