Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC Gamer

sflufan · 04-17-2005, 04:35 PM

In their usual coming next month paragraph for the June issue, they state that they will have a "world exclusive" on the return of one of the "biggest" gaming franchies.

Now, I know the return of Prey is big but does it qualify as one of the "biggest" gaming franchises - I don't think so. So I think that rules out Prey as being the "big story" for June.

Could this mean that some other 3dRealms project will be featured in PC Gamer?!?

Parkar · 04-17-2005, 04:37 PM

It is prey, thats what the clue on the prey website says. I guess you were not around back in 97-98 if you say prey is not BIG.

sflufan · 04-17-2005, 04:39 PM

Yes I know Prey will be in the June issue - I posted the translated binary code here first after all

But that does not mean that it will be this "huge exclusive" to which PC Gamer referred.

I'm just stating that I don't think a game that was never released quite qualifies as being the "return of one of gaming's biggest franchises."

Heck, you need more than one game to be franchise!

Kev_Hectic · 04-17-2005, 04:43 PM

Yeah, it says "franchise", and Prey is not a franchise, yet. Maybe they're talking about Quake IV? There was some new news on the game a couple days ago.

sflufan · 04-17-2005, 04:45 PM

Nope, not Quake IV - they had their exclusive for that back in November 2004.

Gryph · 04-17-2005, 04:46 PM

Quake IV has already been a front page feature in PC Gamer.

And franchise doesn't necessarily mean it has to have more than one.

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sflufan · 04-17-2005, 04:49 PM

Even still, it would be a stretch to call Prey a franchise don't you think?

What I'm getting at is - maybe there's a very remote possibility that we'll have a 3DR double shot of Prey and DNF?

Spooger · 04-17-2005, 04:50 PM

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sflufan said:
Even still, it would be a stretch to call Prey a franchise don't you think?

What I'm getting at is - maybe there's a very remote possibility that we'll have a 3DR double shot of Prey and DNF?

Prey and DNF? That would be something. Holy shiet, would that be something!

Kev_Hectic · 04-17-2005, 04:52 PM

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sflufan said:
Nope, not Quake IV - they had their exclusive for that back in November 2004.

Yeah, I guess it wouldn't be much of a world exclussive if it was just a new preview of Quake IV.

Evil Angel · 04-17-2005, 04:52 PM

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sflufan said:
Even still, it would be a stretch to call Prey a franchise don't you think?

What I'm getting at is - maybe there's a very remote possibility that we'll have a 3DR double shot of Prey and DNF?

Prey and DNF? That would be something. Holy shiet, would that be something!

Absolutely. Prey never got released so it doesn't qualify as a franchise at all really. It was bound to happen though. People were sure to ask about DNF when they heard about this so maybe they're getting it all out of the way in the article to save constant nagging questions for weeks after. If it's anything I doubt it will be screenshots or anything major though as the games would overshadow each other. Maybe just a brief update.

But man.. anything is better than nothing.

Spooger · 04-17-2005, 05:41 PM

Honestly, if I was flipping through the pages of PC Gamer, and saw a Prey/DNF article staring me back in the face, it would be an instantaneous ass-kicking. It would be a slap to the face that would be exponentially harder than if DNF was to appear alone, or Prey. It would have this effect on anyone who has any interest in PC games whatsoever.

*crosses fingers*

Evil Angel · 04-17-2005, 05:52 PM

That's a good point. Both of them together revealed like that. And what if it was to be that they were going to be released within a short time of each other, say 6 months.

Now maybe that's going a bit far but here's hoping. Hehe that really would be awesome. Good way of sticking it to all the doubters.

Gryph · 04-17-2005, 05:59 PM

Do you think that one might take away some steam from the other if revealed at the same time? The way I see it is that this is Prey's big moment.

Evil Angel · 04-17-2005, 06:09 PM

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Do you think that one might take away some steam from the other if revealed at the same time? The way I see it is that this is Prey's big moment.

That's what I said initially but there is a real impact to be made from having both at the same time but it's unlikely as this will be overload. I still doubt we will get anything more than a titbit if anything about DNF but it's fun to speculate.

Damien_Azreal · 04-17-2005, 06:36 PM

Here's what is actualy in on the back page.

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Prey can't really make a triumphant return, it never actualy had a stable start.

Hudson · 04-17-2005, 06:54 PM

As I said in the other thread in the DNF forum..

Those of you who are getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed. 3D Realms is not going to have two of their games going head to head against eachother.

Nacho · 04-17-2005, 06:57 PM

As I said in the other thread. Wait why are there two of these threads!?

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Here's what is on the last page of PC Gamer...

"In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

Read into what you will.

This just proves that it is Prey and not DNF. Prey has been as far as we knew dead for several years. It was a huge thing when it was first started so now it is back and so it is a big franchise. Though I could be wrong.

Kev_Hectic · 04-17-2005, 07:14 PM

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Hudson said:
As I said in the other thread in the DNF forum..

Those of you who are getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed. 3D Realms is not going to have two of their games going head to head against eachother.

I don't believe it's DNF either, but the choice of wording that they used does make it sound like some other game (that's not a 3DR game) is going to be making it's debut in the same issue as Prey. But as Evil Angel said in the other thread, it's probably all just hyper bole.

Kev_Hectic · 04-17-2005, 07:15 PM

Oop's double post.

Hudson · 04-17-2005, 07:19 PM

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As I said in the other thread in the DNF forum..

Those of you who are getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed. 3D Realms is not going to have two of their games going head to head against eachother.

I don't believe it's DNF either, but the choice of wording that they used does make it sound like some other game (that's not a 3DR game) is going to be making it's debut in the same issue as Prey. But as Evil Angel said in the other thread, it's probably all just hyper bole.

PC Gamer is well known for over-hyping their upcoming issue. I'm a subscriber, and in the back of nearly every other issue they boast about another "WORLD EXCLUSIVE".

Take anything they say with a grain of salt and a whole lot of tequila.

Kev_Hectic · 04-17-2005, 07:39 PM

^ Yeah true, I've never subscribed to PCGamer, but I've bought enough of their magazines to know that they do love their "world exclusives" (well, it definitly is justified for Prey

) and like to over hype everything to the tenth degree.

melt_core · 04-18-2005, 03:45 AM

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Nacho said:
This just proves that it is Prey and not DNF. Prey has been as far as we knew dead for several years. It was a huge thing when it was first started so now it is back and so it is a big franchise. Though I could be wrong.

gaming's greatest franchise? Prey?...

Com'on! Most gamers have never heard of Prey. Seriously, if I asked a hundred gamers what is the Greatest Franchise, 90% will probably answer GTA, maybe some will say Doom, perhaps Quake and Duke Nukem... Mario would probably be in there with Sonic... but Prey? Huahuahuaua... There haven't been one single game released, no matter how high the buzz was about this game 8 years ago, it doesn't qualify as gaming's greatest franchise at all.

Denz · 04-18-2005, 03:54 AM

Maybe PCgamer wrote it bad, and now evryone is hopping another game than prey... But what do you guys read on the Prey Flash Page?

IHerman · 04-18-2005, 05:05 AM

Don't they say something like that every month, so people keep buying the magazine?"

i'm not surprised if it turns out to be something not that special, like a new Tomb Raider or something.

Rider · 04-18-2005, 05:11 AM

Now this doesn't add up if they're full of shit (naturally) but in my opinion, Prey was just re-announced. It seems to me like a little unlikely that it'll be done in 3 months or so.

Maybe enough for a "look it's still there" article, but hardly sufficient for a World-Wide Debut, don't you think?

DNF On the other hand...

Nacho · 04-18-2005, 06:01 AM

I just found a old PC Gamer Magazine from 2000 and well look what I found, "World exclussive next issue to the biggest Gaming franchise's!!!"

KaiserSoze · 04-18-2005, 06:11 AM

pc gamer are a bunch of nimtards. i realize they have to sell magazines but i'm sick and tired of them using duke fans for hype.

they've done this one too many times in the past strongly hinting their "exclusive" was duke nukem forever when it's something else.

there is no way in hell "prey" fits what pc gamer writes here: "One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details."

i'm sorry but "prey" is not an established "franchise", let alone "one of the biggest" in pc gaming. the freaking game has never been out!

now i'm not down on "prey" at all, i'm pumped as hell for the game.

my issue is with pc gamer magazine and their continued double talk and flat out misleading news previews.

this is why fans here are debating whether it's prey or dnf. don't get pissed off at fans who think it may be dnf. the only triumphant pc game making it's return would be a duke game imho.

pc gamer could have easily worded that blurb to give a hint about prey without invoking dnf.

"in our next issue, we have the world exclusive news on a pc game that has risen from the dead and is ready
to finally make it's debut. have your "prayers" been answered?"

"prayers" is an obvious wink at "prey".
"risen from the dead" is another clue as everyone basically thought "prey" was indeed dead.

bah whatever.

i'm gonna go to pc gamer headquarters and straighten shit out overthere.

trackit · 04-18-2005, 06:17 AM

Cmon guys. of course its Prey. Yeah i agree that it dont quite qualify as a franchise yet, but that doesnt mean PCGamer couldnt name it that way anyway...

After all, Prey was BIG back then. Allthoug i have completly forgot about Prey

until that Aprils fool thread...

Anyway, i'm quite sure that PCGamer is referring to Prey.. and i dont find it strange that they name it like they did. They wanna catch the attention afterall, you know. And i think that when we see Prey we will be impressed and wount blame PCGamer for referring to it that way

IHerman · 04-18-2005, 06:30 AM

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Nacho said:
I just found a old PC Gamer Magazine from 2000 and well look what I found, "World exclussive next issue to the biggest Gaming franchise's!!!"

Do you also know what the "biggest Gaming franchise's" were? In other words, what did it turn out to be in the next issue?

Drazula · 04-18-2005, 07:05 AM

If I saw the "biggest Gaming franchise's" I would think GTA or Warcraft. The only FPS that would come to mind is Quake 4 or DNF. I would not think Prey.

PC Gamer has lost a lot of credibility with me. But they do previews very well. So the Prey preview is something to look forward to.

lonestar · 04-18-2005, 08:13 AM

pc gamer isn't the only one being good in over-hyping events and breaking promises. game mags are generally known for it. it's just a good way to get some attention.

look at the past how they all ended, the speculations about dnf... what do you think how this will end?

KaiserSoze · 04-18-2005, 09:13 AM

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lonestar said:

look at the past how they all ended, the speculations about dnf... what do you think how this will end?

I WISH IT'D END WITH ACTUAL DNF COVERAGE!

Gryph · 04-18-2005, 09:17 AM

I'm expecting a small blurb about DNF. It'll probably all be speculation and nothing confirmed by George but it'll be there since Prey is also a 3DR game.

tman535 · 04-18-2005, 09:50 AM

George's post ps look for our new game soon add's credence to the backpage of pcgamer. And if I were releasing a new game I would want an exclusive in the mag. The question is what the Heck is George hinting at. One thing is for sure I am on pin and needles waiting for june issue of pcgamer. tman

zwieback · 04-18-2005, 11:00 AM

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Evil Angel said:
That's a good point. Both of them together revealed like that. And what if it was to be that they were going to be released within a short time of each other, say 6 months.

Now maybe that's going a bit far but here's hoping. Hehe that really would be awesome. Good way of sticking it to all the doubters.

this would show us that 3drealms is not vaporvare! but imo not gonna happen.

but we have still time to dream

Kristian Joensen · 04-18-2005, 02:21 PM

Does anyone know that release date of the June PC Gamer ?

Nacho · 04-18-2005, 03:22 PM

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Kristian Joensen said:
Does anyone know that release date of the June PC Gamer ?

Usually June issue gets released in June....Um, a week in.

Kristian Joensen · 04-18-2005, 03:24 PM

Actually that is apperntly not that case with PC Gamer, George said it would be out in week or two.

Duoae · 04-18-2005, 03:25 PM

We usually get the next month's magazine between the 21-30/31.... depending on magazine.

Gryph · 04-18-2005, 03:47 PM

The Half-Life 2 PC Gamer (December 2004) that I bought from the stands was available in early November.

04-17-2005, 06:36 PM	#15
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Here's what is actualy in on the back page. "In 28 days, it's <font color="red"> ANOTHER WORLD-EXCLUSIVE </font> announcement that will be found only on our pages. One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details." Prey can't really make a triumphant return, it never actualy had a stable start. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

04-17-2005, 04:35 PM	#1
sflufan	Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC Gamer In their usual coming next month paragraph for the June issue, they state that they will have a "world exclusive" on the return of one of the "biggest" gaming franchies. Now, I know the return of Prey is big but does it qualify as one of the "biggest" gaming franchises - I don't think so. So I think that rules out Prey as being the "big story" for June. Could this mean that some other 3dRealms project will be featured in PC Gamer?!? __________________ If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving really isn't for you.

04-17-2005, 04:37 PM	#2
Parkar	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G It is prey, thats what the clue on the prey website says. I guess you were not around back in 97-98 if you say prey is not BIG. __________________ Action Unreal Tournament Duke Nukem 3D: High Resolution Pack HRP wiki: A HRP development tool

04-17-2005, 04:39 PM	#3
sflufan	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Yes I know Prey will be in the June issue - I posted the translated binary code here first after all But that does not mean that it will be this "huge exclusive" to which PC Gamer referred. I'm just stating that I don't think a game that was never released quite qualifies as being the "return of one of gaming's biggest franchises." Heck, you need more than one game to be franchise! __________________ If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving really isn't for you.

04-17-2005, 04:43 PM	#4
Kev_Hectic	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Yeah, it says "franchise", and Prey is not a franchise, yet. Maybe they're talking about Quake IV? There was some new news on the game a couple days ago. __________________ RIP: 3D REALMS 1987 - 2009, you're still dead to me

04-17-2005, 04:45 PM	#5
sflufan	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Nope, not Quake IV - they had their exclusive for that back in November 2004. __________________ If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving really isn't for you.

04-17-2005, 04:49 PM	#7
sflufan	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Even still, it would be a stretch to call Prey a franchise don't you think? What I'm getting at is - maybe there's a very remote possibility that we'll have a 3DR double shot of Prey and DNF? __________________ If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving really isn't for you.

04-17-2005, 05:41 PM	#11
Spooger	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Honestly, if I was flipping through the pages of PC Gamer, and saw a Prey/DNF article staring me back in the face, it would be an instantaneous ass-kicking. It would be a slap to the face that would be exponentially harder than if DNF was to appear alone, or Prey. It would have this effect on anyone who has any interest in PC games whatsoever. crosses fingers

04-17-2005, 05:52 PM	#12
Evil Angel	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G That's a good point. Both of them together revealed like that. And what if it was to be that they were going to be released within a short time of each other, say 6 months. Now maybe that's going a bit far but here's hoping. Hehe that really would be awesome. Good way of sticking it to all the doubters.

04-17-2005, 05:59 PM	#13
Gryph	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Do you think that one might take away some steam from the other if revealed at the same time? The way I see it is that this is Prey's big moment. __________________ 1Emulation: The Peoples' Emulation Site I pity the fool! - Mr. T

04-17-2005, 06:54 PM	#16
Hudson	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G As I said in the other thread in the DNF forum.. Those of you who are getting your hopes up for DNF will be severely dissapointed. 3D Realms is not going to have two of their games going head to head against eachother. __________________ Staying Frosty Since 09/06/07 - I love you Katie <3 “Software is like sex; it's better when it's free.” - Linus Torvalds “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” - Calvin & Hobbes [INSERT SYSTEM SPECS THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT HERE]

04-17-2005, 07:15 PM	#19
Kev_Hectic	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Oop's double post. __________________ RIP: 3D REALMS 1987 - 2009, you're still dead to me

04-17-2005, 07:39 PM	#21
Kev_Hectic	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G ^ Yeah true, I've never subscribed to PCGamer, but I've bought enough of their magazines to know that they do love their "world exclusives" (well, it definitly is justified for Prey ) and like to over hype everything to the tenth degree. __________________ RIP: 3D REALMS 1987 - 2009, you're still dead to me

04-18-2005, 03:54 AM	#23
Denz	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Maybe PCgamer wrote it bad, and now evryone is hopping another game than prey... But what do you guys read on the Prey Flash Page? __________________ *crunchy superman said:* 10 years and two complete restarts - that's either one very effective filter, or a whole lotta shit. :D

04-18-2005, 05:05 AM	#24
IHerman	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Don't they say something like that every month, so people keep buying the magazine?" i'm not surprised if it turns out to be something not that special, like a new Tomb Raider or something. __________________ Chances are I lost my point in this post after about two lines.

04-18-2005, 05:11 AM	#25
Rider	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Now this doesn't add up if they're full of shit (naturally) but in my opinion, Prey was just re-announced. It seems to me like a little unlikely that it'll be done in 3 months or so. Maybe enough for a "look it's still there" article, but hardly sufficient for a World-Wide Debut, don't you think? DNF On the other hand... __________________ Duke4.net - Duke's OTHER home. HeadbangersFM - The station that keeps your head banging! ------------- She's pretty, not "damn-she's-making-my-noodle-dance-samba"-pretty, but still very pretty... - Micki!

04-18-2005, 06:01 AM	#26
Nacho	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G I just found a old PC Gamer Magazine from 2000 and well look what I found, "World exclussive next issue to the biggest Gaming franchise's!!!"

04-18-2005, 06:11 AM	#27
KaiserSoze	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G pc gamer are a bunch of nimtards. i realize they have to sell magazines but i'm sick and tired of them using duke fans for hype. they've done this one too many times in the past strongly hinting their "exclusive" was duke nukem forever when it's something else. there is no way in hell "prey" fits what pc gamer writes here: "One of the biggest franchises in PC gaming makes its triumphant return, and we'll have all the details." i'm sorry but "prey" is not an established "franchise", let alone "one of the biggest" in pc gaming. the freaking game has never been out! now i'm not down on "prey" at all, i'm pumped as hell for the game. my issue is with pc gamer magazine and their continued double talk and flat out misleading news previews. this is why fans here are debating whether it's prey or dnf. don't get pissed off at fans who think it may be dnf. the only triumphant pc game making it's return would be a duke game imho. pc gamer could have easily worded that blurb to give a hint about prey without invoking dnf. "in our next issue, we have the world exclusive news on a pc game that has risen from the dead and is ready to finally make it's debut. have your "prayers" been answered?" "prayers" is an obvious wink at "prey". "risen from the dead" is another clue as everyone basically thought "prey" was indeed dead. bah whatever. i'm gonna go to pc gamer headquarters and straighten shit out overthere. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjimMO2SdE

04-18-2005, 06:17 AM	#28
trackit	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Cmon guys. of course its Prey. Yeah i agree that it dont quite qualify as a franchise yet, but that doesnt mean PCGamer couldnt name it that way anyway... After all, Prey was BIG back then. Allthoug i have completly forgot about Prey until that Aprils fool thread... Anyway, i'm quite sure that PCGamer is referring to Prey.. and i dont find it strange that they name it like they did. They wanna catch the attention afterall, you know. And i think that when we see Prey we will be impressed and wount blame PCGamer for referring to it that way __________________ Sorry, but you're reading into it too much!

04-18-2005, 07:05 AM	#30
Drazula	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G If I saw the "biggest Gaming franchise's" I would think GTA or Warcraft. The only FPS that would come to mind is Quake 4 or DNF. I would not think Prey. PC Gamer has lost a lot of credibility with me. But they do previews very well. So the Prey preview is something to look forward to. __________________ "I've been trying to change the world for years, but they just won't give me the source code." - Drazula

04-18-2005, 08:13 AM	#31
lonestar	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G pc gamer isn't the only one being good in over-hyping events and breaking promises. game mags are generally known for it. it's just a good way to get some attention. look at the past how they all ended, the speculations about dnf... what do you think how this will end? __________________ spacerace: "i'll eat my shorts if we ever see this game." www.duke4.de

04-18-2005, 09:17 AM	#33
Gryph	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G I'm expecting a small blurb about DNF. It'll probably all be speculation and nothing confirmed by George but it'll be there since Prey is also a 3DR game. __________________ 1Emulation: The Peoples' Emulation Site I pity the fool! - Mr. T

04-18-2005, 09:50 AM	#34
tman535	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G George's post ps look for our new game soon add's credence to the backpage of pcgamer. And if I were releasing a new game I would want an exclusive in the mag. The question is what the Heck is George hinting at. One thing is for sure I am on pin and needles waiting for june issue of pcgamer. tman

04-18-2005, 02:21 PM	#36
Kristian Joensen	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Does anyone know that release date of the June PC Gamer ? __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-18-2005, 03:24 PM	#38
Kristian Joensen	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G Actually that is apperntly not that case with PC Gamer, George said it would be out in week or two. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

04-18-2005, 03:25 PM	#39
Duoae	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G We usually get the next month's magazine between the 21-30/31.... depending on magazine. __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD.

04-18-2005, 03:47 PM	#40
Gryph	Re: Hmmm...something interesting from the May PC G The Half-Life 2 PC Gamer (December 2004) that I bought from the stands was available in early November. __________________ 1Emulation: The Peoples' Emulation Site I pity the fool! - Mr. T