Pig Cops

[ben3283]

I have faith that DNF will be released in the near future, but will it stand up againsts its older counter-part? I can tell you now if we are forced to fight againsts burly Pig aliens, then i'll just go play some Doom 3! WTF is up with this:



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As you can see, the Pigs cops in the older game look alot cooler than the newer ones and they get a shotgun. I hope they see this and decide to change their minds and keep OLD traditions alive! I hate to say it, but for 12 years in the closet leaves no room to trash its predecessor.

If you feel the same way, please use this topic as a poll and post your comments here.

[joey007]

Man, I hated the pig cops on Duke3D they always got at me good.

[Jurarex]

Pigs + Shotgun = EPIC WIN!

[DerricktheW]

Pigs in the new game have shotguns. And the chaingun too.

Did you not see the Jace Hall Footage or the leaked animation reel?

[gamefan11]

Hey as long as they are there, it's okay with me

[FlashBack]

I 100% agree with the topic.
The old pigs looked more punk. They had that hair more on their head than on their back. The DNF pigs look more like werewolves or werepigs what ever.
The DN3D pigs have that hair shaped into a punk crest. I always felt that the duke world has a bit of steam punk ambient and the pigs look like mutated punkers. The thing that with DNF there is 0 steam punk art design in it from what I can see. Something tells me we are not going to see "Punks Not Dead" on the walls or "anarachy" symbol.
The city of Dn3d captured very well the gritty 80's ghetto ambient.The punk looking pig cops, strippers, bathrooms, arcades were very fitting.
Making a new duke game without that 80's punks not dead ghetto ambient is going to kill allot of it.

[joey007]

Yeah It Looks like the new pige cop has been in the weight room!

[FlashBack]

They are pulling a Doom3er on Dnf from what I noticed.
All the NPC are made to look in a way in which you could scientifically explain the mutation at an anatomy level, which is exactly what made doom3 suck because in turn they kind of tend to look like bad villains from a cliche movie or cartoon.
The Old pig cop had boots and was fully clothed in a blue police l.a.r.d uniform.
Also the old pigcop had a much straighter back and it's head was above his torso not bowed at chest level.
Just look at this for reference


If DNF is ever going to be made and if any art designer or lead artist or staff member is viewing this topic, then I strongly suggest that they should keep the art style of Duke Nukem 3d and not try and make the same mistake that ID did with doom3 npc's.
I am a big fan of Dn3d and I think I speak for everybody when i say that the older pigs looked much better.
Even the HRP pack for dn3d has 3d pigcops that looks identical with the original sprite ones.
That is how they should look, but with better textures,bump maps, more polygons and mocap animations.

[Delicieuxz]

I also don't like that the new pigs are more plain looking in contrast to the old. Maybe a bigger snout, larger "mohawk," some hair on their chest and arms...
Regarding the absence of the LARD shirt on the pig's chest, maybe they're concerned about offending certain groups now that gaming is so much more mainstream and publicized. The LARD was pretty iconic, though.

[Commando Nukem]

Originally Posted by Delicieuxz

I also don't like that the new pigs are more plain looking in contrast to the old. Maybe a bigger snout, larger "mohawk," some hair on their chest and arms...
Regarding the absence of the LARD shirt on the pig's chest, maybe they're concerned about offending certain groups now that gaming is so much more mainstream and publicized. The LARD was pretty iconic, though.

LARD wouldnt fit Las Vegas. LARD - Los Angeles Riot Department.

[prophecy holder]

New pigcop actually looks fierce while the latter would be something you find in a Ninja turtle saturday morning cartoon (the pig was named bebop i beleive. It's high time we grow up and go beyond the saturday morning cartoon stuff and go with the saturday night movies like The thing.

[Delicieuxz]

^^ Total fail. The new pigcop is more generic. The new pig cop doesn't resemble your The Thing toy in style. The new pig and the old pig are still both pigs, and therefore both have that in similarity with Bebop from TMNT. Neither look like Bebop. So like I was saying, total fail. I think you're being confused by the 2d-ness of the old sprite versus the new 3d model, and subsequently as well as incorrectly taking the looks of each on that basis to stand for something they do not.

[joey007]

like this one

[Mr Bear]

Originally Posted by FlashBack

Wow, never seen that piece before.......awesome!!!

Originally Posted by Commando Nukem

LARD wouldnt fit Las Vegas. LARD - Los Angeles Riot Department.

I think it would actually be hilarious if DNF had LVRD written on the Pig Cops' uniforms.

Hilarious in a stupid, nonsensical sort of way.......but still funny.

[LeonZyCoene]

I actually prefer the new rendering of the "pig cop".

It would be silly for them to continue with the whole "all cops turned into pigs" concept. As games get more sophisticated so must the storyline and reasoning behind the elements in the game.

But I fully expect there to be a moment in the game where the player encounters a pig in full L.A.R.D. uniform as an homage (possibly hidden somewhere in the game).

[joey007]

I like both Pig cops styles The Old one is Punky, the new one is Muscular

[marioman360]

the new Pig Cops do have Armour and shotguns and stuff, just not in that picture.
if anything, these pig cops are over dressed.

[FlashBack]

How about having both kinds of pigs in the game.
Some like the new one and some like the old one. That would certainly add variety and would make the game fun for everybody.
For ex. make the old punk pigs as the first pigs you encounter and as you progress through the game and it becomes harder you start to encounter those muscular pigs that are stronger and take more hits to die.
But then again, who is to say that they are not already doing this as we speak.

Or if the leaked script was true, maybe Duke Nukem 3d was just an arcade game that Duke Nukem was playing in reality.
I think they are going for a scenario where Duke Nukem actually exists in reality(facebook profile hint) and duke nukem is a gamer also and the whole duke nukem 3d game was a game that Duke Nukem played. After duke nukem finished his duke nukem 3d game REAL aliens come from outer space that look like the ones from his game. With this scenario they can make the aliens look more realistic to make it look like duke nukem 3d was an arcade game while the action in DNF is really happening and it's not a game anymore lol.

[Wamplet]

Don't forget the Gothic Pig Cop Strippers

and for Ivan:

Shemale Gothic Pig Cop Strippers.

[trucedAnimal]

that drawing of John Godwin looks like ALF with bigger teeth. but i like it none the less.
the difference is that it has a larger head. i guess they thought it would look too cute and cartoonish like that.

[Sang]

New PigCops look cool in their own right and I think they'd fit better in DNF's art direction than Duke3D's PigCops.