General Prey Questions

[DissidentRage]

I'm a bit surprised there hasn't already been a thread like this. Since there hasn't, I'll start the first one. This is a thread for asking questions about the game, not just a thread about questions on one aspect.

I'm sure you guys get it. Hopefully this doesn't fly into Area 51 territory.

Some questions I have:

-What is the atmosphere of the game?
-Is the main character going to talk smack like another certain ass-kicking hero?
-Other than obviously showing off portal technology and known Doom 3 engine capabilities, what's in store for us that you're willing to tell?
-Minimum running requirements?

[lonestar]

Roger said:
I'm a bit surprised there hasn't already been a thread like this.

that's because game-related questions won't probably be answered until its unveiling in pc gamer. in ~2 weeks you will have you answers.

[Ronald McDonald]

You'll know WID.

[DissidentRage]

I'm not used to being in this kind of position of time. Normally when I hear about/become interested in a game, it's after the beans have already been spilled or it's because all possible questions have already been asked. Also, I tend not to read magazines.

[Kristian Joensen]

Ronald McDonald said:
You'll know WID.

I am pretty sure the PC Gamer preview will revela some of those things. Its 3D Realms's policy to release games WID not game info/screenshot that is about 6 months before WID.

[Sigma]

Having read Prey-related information on a Shadow Warrior CD, I wonder:

Will the hero still be a Native American?

Is this freakin' awesome?

Or what?

[Kristian Joensen]

The hero will most definetly be a native american.

[Sigma]

Sweet.

-Napoleon Dynamite

[Geo-King]

Here is stuff about the old game. I guess thats all we got for now. http://www.3dgamers.com/games/prey/

Game Information


Game: Prey
Scheduled For: ????
Game Type: 3D Action
Developer: 3D Realms Entertainment / Human Head Studios
Publisher: Unknown - To Be Announced
Homepages: None listed by 3D Gamers
FAQs: <font color="red">http://www.3drealms.com/faq/preyfaq12.txt</font>

Requires: Windows / OpenGL
Supports:
Multiplay: Internet / local network
Keywords: first-person / futuristic / techno / shooter
ESRB Rating: Unavailable

Here is were you can get screenshots and video.
http://www.3dgamers.com/games/prey/downloads/

You should really check out the FAQ (Attached to this post). Its out of date but better then nothing. Here is somthing interesting from the FAQ.

2.4 What is Portal Technology?
--------------------------------

A new technology, Portal Technology is the key to Prey's engine.
This technology allows environments and events to take place that would be
impossible in real life, or by Geometry Laws as we know it.

Other 3D Engines like Quake use BSP (Binary Space Partitioning)
trees. Portal Technology is differs from BSP in a few ways.


* What Paul Schuytema says about Portal Technology:

"What the portal technology gives us, is the ability to break free from
static environment geometry-our environments can change geometry dynamically,
during game play, in a far more interesting manner than simply opening doors
and moving platforms that are found in most BSP-based engines."

* An article in Boot Magazine interviewing Joe Gilby about Portal Technology:

In portal games, the world is made of connected convex polyhedrons with
polygons allowing visibility between the polyhedron cells. "The idea is that
these cells are stored in a graph structure such that, when traversed, they
will sort correctly," explains Joe Gilby. "If you're in a room with an open
door into another room (all different portals), the far rooms are drawn first
but just the pieces that are visible through the door and window are actually
rendered. The cells subdivide the world into pieces that quickly identify
areas that are of interest, and the objects which exist in those cells. Portal
supports arbitrary sloping surfaces, and six-degrees-of-freedom viewing"

One advantage of this approach is the flexibility of defining the portal cells.
Current BSP implementations require splitting polygons that straddle the
extended plane of other polygons, so the more complicated the scene, the
more polygons you have to deal with. Portals require splitting in order to
maintain polyhedron convexity, but it's local to the immediate neighborhood
and can be avoided by level designers, given a little training. This allows for
more complicated settings. Also, the portal cell based approach can avoid
screwing affects such as characters and explosions piercing through walls,
due to the portal cell drawing order. In a BSP renderer, the physics have to
prevent objects in one leaf penetrating into another or clipping, because the
renderer will dutifully draw them in both.

"In portal, objects are confined to their containing cell, unless you explicitly
say otherwise," says Gilby. "This makes the superpostitioning come out right.
We can also use portal cells to define open spaces containing an atmosphere
medium, such as flowering water, billowing smoke, and murky water."

[Kristian Joensen]

Are you sure you posted that in the correct thread ?

[Geo-King]

Thats all the info I can find about the game. I hope it helps him out.

[Kristian Joensen]

Roger ?

Your info is about the old Prey.

[Geo-King]

Yes… I clearly state in my post that it’s about the old prey but you have to agree that the old and new game will share some similarities. We won’t know for sure until the May PC Gamer comes out.

[Kristian Joensen]

I know but I think Roger is hoping for someone like George, Charlie, Joe or Chris to answer those question and the forum members to speculate.

[Ronald McDonald]

Yes, Prey will probably be about some guy shooting guns......blowing stuff up........kill baddies/aliens

[Gryph]

And we know another thing, the hero didn't want the job.

[Kristian Joensen]

He's a Native American for sure. The game is a FPS/TPS. George said: "You can modify almost any engine to do damn near anything"

[Geo-King]

Kristian Joensen said:
and the forum members to speculate.

-What is the atmosphere of the game?
Futuristic first person shooter with some other stuff mixed in.

-Is the main character going to talk smack like another certain ass-kicking hero?
From what I have heard he is a Native American trying to save the world. I don’t think he/she will share any character traits with duke. They probably want to make a totally original personality.

-Other than obviously showing off portal technology and known Doom 3 engine capabilities, what's in store for us that you're willing to tell?
Portal tech with higher resolution and better graphics. I am sure it will be visually stunning but we will all have to wait and see how it is implemented in relation to game play to see how revolutionary this idea really is.

-Minimum running requirements?
This game is probably going to take a long time so just look at how fast video cards evolve and make a guess. This Portal tech stuff sounds intense so I would not be surprised if you need a physics card (PPU) to run this game.


Is that better, Kristian Joensen?

[Kristian Joensen]

Call me Kristian.

That is much better. Also I will add that I hope that like the old PRey this Prey will be well researched with regards to Native American legends, myths, stories, language and culture.

[Duoae]

Well considering all the hints on the prey.com site, i would say it is very old-culture/myth orientated.

[Kristian Joensen]

Exactly if that indeed is so, I think is just must be a very great game.

There is alot of story potential there.

[Geo-King]

I agree. Legends, myths, stories, language and culture will make the game deeper and more interesting. 7 years ago I saw a special on TLC about extra terrestrial connections between ancient Egyptians and also Native Americans witch somehow related to the apocalypse. If done correctly we might see a sci-fi movie about the game one day. Uh Oh. I am sure Hollywood will mess it up.

[Duoae]

Well, there's links between the mayans, Inuits and "elhuits".......... so we should have all the indigenous tribes of north america and canada included in this game.

[Kristian Joensen]

Geo-King said:
I agree. Legends, myths, stories, language and culture will make the game deeper and more interesting. 7 years ago I saw a special on TLC about extra terrestrial connections between ancient Egyptians and also Native Americans witch somehow related to the apocalypse. If done correctly we might see a sci-fi movie about the game one day. Uh Oh. I am sure Hollywood will mess it up.

Scott and George won't let that happen. The Duke movie has been in "development" for so long for that very reason.

[FireFly]

Duoae said:
Well, there's links between the mayans, Inuits and "elhuits".......... so we should have all the indigenous tribes of north america and canada included in this game.

Hopefully not all mixed together.

[Geo-King]

Kristian Joensen said:
Scott and George won't let that happen. The Duke movie has been in "development" for so long for that very reason.

Not even the guys a ID were able to get what they wanted? I dont think we will ever see Duke (the way we know him) on the big screen.

FireFly said:

Hopefully not all mixed together.

I am sure they will come up with something creative that will include everyone but still respect the individual cultures.

[Kristian Joensen]

Geo-King said:

Not even the guys a ID were able to get what they wanted? I dont think we will ever see Duke (the way we know him) on the big screen.

Did they even try getting the Doom movie to be better than it is ? If so then they haven't got the rigths to do that. IF so, they signed away the rigths to do that. 3DR haven't. They have a veto over script, cast and director.

[Geo-King]

Kristian Joensen said:
3DR haven't. They have a veto over script, cast and director.

Isn’t it 3DR policy not to hype a game to early? Didn’t they say they will only do that if its 6 months away from release? Anyway, I hope they show a new demonstration of portal tech at the next E3.

Here is the old one if you’re interested.
http://www.3dgamers.com/dlselect/gam...8prey.mpg.html

[Kristian Joensen]

Yes your point is ?

Edited:

I have seen that video.

[Geo-King]

Is the game coming out in 6 months? Or are we going to be waiting 2 years?

[Kristian Joensen]

Probaply about 6 months.

I guess a year tops.

[Cerberus_e]

what about battlelords in Prey? think about it.
as a homage to Duke3D, a reference

[Ronald McDonald]

Battlelords, battlelords. Always the battlelords

[Cerberus_e]

Ronald McDonald said:
Battlelords, battlelords. Always the battlelords

^ witchcraft!!!! you don't like battlelords
BURN!! into the fire with you
boiling water shalt thou drink to clean your soul