The Official Doctor Who Thread

Duoae · 03-26-2005, 01:56 PM

WARNING from Joe3DR: This thread has discussions of the current episodes of the new series in the UK as well as older discussions. Tread lightly if you don't want the new stuff spoiled.

WOW! What can i say, just got off from watching the first episode of Dr. Who and i was not dissapointed at all!

I don't want to spoil it for those in other countries who have to wait for it, but it was great.

I was planning on recording it to my HDD so i could watch it again (as i have no tapes), but i hadn't got the time to set it up before hand. Nevermind.

The only bad thing about the episode was that the BBC ***** up the transmission a bit and had (what i think was) sound from BBC 3's dance show interfering with the broadcast in the first 5-10 mins. That would spoil it for anyone who recorded it and wanted a pristine copy.

As for Eccleston, he was great as the new Doctor. Although i think Billie is also good as a companion, i didn't/ couldn't relate to her character very well - partially due to her smiling during running sequences....

Overall EXCELLENT! *Rubs hands together*

addfaz · 03-26-2005, 02:00 PM

first time i've ever watched it

very impressed so far

cant wait for next episode...

Duoae · 03-26-2005, 02:03 PM

Yeah, the next episode looks VERY intriguing! Hopefully i'll record it next week.

X-Vector · 03-26-2005, 02:04 PM

Don't you guys think it was all a bit *too* silly?

Fat John · 03-26-2005, 02:09 PM

I'd never watched an actual current Dr. Who episode, so this was a new experience for me. It was a bit goofy at times, and I found it underwhelming. However I think it has potential...

addfaz · 03-26-2005, 02:09 PM

at times, yes. but it didnt seem to bother me.

Duoae · 03-26-2005, 02:10 PM

I liked the silliness of Doctor Who in general. I don't think it's ever been serious as a series. I didn't think it was too silly. I've only disliked K-9 and the "WhoMobile" in all the series.... they were silly.

Eccleston makes me think of a combination of Colin Baker and Silvester McCoy.... he has his playful thoughtful side, but there is the hint of a darker layer underneath.

Nacho · 03-26-2005, 02:41 PM

Doh! I missed it!

supermeerkat · 03-26-2005, 02:47 PM

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X-Vector said:
Don't you guys think it was all a bit *too* silly?

It was slightly tongue in cheeck, but Dr Who always has been. That show has never quite taken itself seriously.

I was incredibly impressed by the whole thing, 45 minutes just flew by. It was great. No complaints at all. Christopher Eccleston was exactly what the show needed: a very talented actor with great presence, who gave the Doctor a sense of danger *and* fun, that, IMO, it never had in the Colin Baker and Sylvester MacCoy years. I can't wait for the next episode.

Also, if we are going to discuss plot details, howabout we use spoiler text?

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> The biggest laugh in the show, for me and my g/f, was when the Doctor pulled off the auton's head, and the couple sitting behind him screamed like hell! </td></tr></table>

bubba · 03-26-2005, 02:50 PM

If i was 8 years old again, I would be absolutely scared shedless.

When the guy lost his head in the restaurant and started thrashing around down on the tables with his massive plastic club hands smashing stuff up, it was brilliant and he was seriously pissed off in a headless rage. Definately hide behind the sofa moment.
Absolutely fantastic with the pumping music.

A thoroughly enjoyble episode.

If it wasnt Dr.Who, I would have thought it was a corney B movie, but nostalgia wins the day.

supermeerkat · 03-26-2005, 03:02 PM

Sylvester McCoy liked it (link to BBC page)

Duoae · 03-26-2005, 04:53 PM

The thing i want to know most is (spoilers):

<font color="#1F1F22"> When the doctor looks in the mirror and exclaims: "Oh! Ah well, could have been worse i suppose." I presume he was referring to his regeneration.... but how did he die? Forgetting the crap that was the film, they didn't explain this and i would love to know how it happened..... </font>

NutWrench · 03-26-2005, 04:54 PM

I never really got into Doctor Who. I don't know why.

supermeerkat · 03-26-2005, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Duoae said:
The thing i want to know most is (spoilers):

<font color="#1F1F22"> When the doctor looks in the mirror and exclaims: "Oh! Ah well, could have been worse i suppose." I presume he was referring to his regeneration.... but how did he die? Forgetting the crap that was the film, they didn't explain this and i would love to know how it happened..... </font>

His regeneration will be addressed at a later date, I believe, - we only saw Pertwee's (sp?) regeneration in flashback, so its not like this hasn't happened before. What I want to know is, did the Paul McGann film actually happen? Was it canon?

On a side note, the doctor doesn't actually die. His body gets so worn out he just needs a new one,

Nacho · 03-26-2005, 05:42 PM

Musn't read spoilers! Does anyone know if they will repeat it this week?

Mountain Man · 03-26-2005, 07:58 PM

Happy to see the positive reports! I'm downloading the episode over bit torrent, so I'll have to watch it later, maybe tomorrow.

cheeseboy · 03-27-2005, 08:12 AM

Despite missing the first ten minutes, I thought it was great. I think Eccleston and Piper look like making a good pair.

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> That bit with the London eye in the background and a very confused Doctor had me cracking up. </td></tr></table>

Fat John · 03-27-2005, 09:27 AM

Remeber how the fat guy had pictures of the doctor going back hundreds of years, and in the first episode he was surprised by his face?

QuiGonJ · 03-27-2005, 09:45 AM

BBC3 is running the show at 7PM tonight for you in the UK lucky enough to see it. The BBC says the ratings hit up to 10.5 million last night.

I'm still waiting on someone in the US to pick it up.

Duoae · 03-27-2005, 10:00 AM

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Fat John said:
Remeber how the fat guy had pictures of the doctor going back hundreds of years, and in the first episode he was surprised by his face?

Nice of you to blurt that spoiler out loud.....

Anyway the answer is quite simple:

<font color="#1F1F22"> If he is in the past, it's because he has visited the past in the future - he travels in time, have you ever seen Bill and Ted's exellent adventure? That simple-minded movie pretty much explains the concepts of time travel. It's also a good laugh.... </font>

StarBegotten · 03-27-2005, 11:24 AM

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His regeneration will be addressed at a later date, I believe, - we only saw Pertwee's (sp?) regeneration in flashback, so its not like this hasn't happened before. What I want to know is, did the Paul McGann film actually happen? Was it canon?

I recall reading in SFX that it wasnt canon, so Eccelston would have regenerated from McCoy.

BTW as a long time Dotor Who fan I loved the new show. I thought it hit the right mix of fun and fear, I look forward to see where the show takes us from here - some of the upcoming episodes sound "a bit good".

I wonder if/when well see the return of The Master?

WestSeven · 03-27-2005, 11:34 AM

I used to love Dr Who and was sure I would be dissapointed but I loved. Perfect balance of humour and action - it's not intended to be series.

My favorite line....

<table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">
Billie: If you're from another planet why do you have a Northern accent?

Dr: Other planets have a North
</td></tr></table>

Made me laugh out loud

Duoae · 03-27-2005, 12:58 PM

Yeah, that was the funniest line in the programme. Loved it.

HobbesUK · 03-27-2005, 02:04 PM

I quite enjoyed it. Yes, it was rather silly at times - but Dr. Who always has been.

I think Billie Piper is quite good, too. I wasn't really sure what her acting ability would be like, but she's not bad at all.

I've not actually watched that many of the old Dr. Who episodes. I watched all of the Sylvester McCoy episodes, simply because I was the 'right age' at that time. And I've watched a lot of the Tom Baker episodes. But aside from that, I'm not a Dr. Who aficionado.

But it gave me goosebumps when I heard the sound of the TARIDS as it disappeared. I've always loved that sound.

The theme tune wasn't as good as it used to be, though

Mountain Man · 03-27-2005, 05:25 PM

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HobbesUK said:
The theme tune wasn't as good as it used to be, though

The theme tune is actually a remix of the one used when the program aired in the 1960's.

Mountain Man · 03-27-2005, 08:20 PM

O.K., I just finished watching it, and that was very cool! I think Eccelston is going to make a very cool Doctor. He's relatable but dark and mysterious. He also reminded me a bit of my personal fave, Peter Davison. I like how Sylvester McCoy describes the new Doctor: "He had this manic grin which worried me. We were not sure if he was on the edge of insanity or not, which was rather good. He just ran into danger with such gusto, he galloped at it joyfully."

Billie Piper is also surprisingly good. She's nice to look at but she's smart and in control. She seems she's not going to be the cowering female companion from the days of old. Oh, and I really like the dematerialization sequence.

Yeah, I had a few quibbles. The climax was a bit of a bore. <table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">The Doctor didn't seem to be struggling nearly hard enough, and letting Rose save the day sort of undermined the strength of his character.</td></tr></table> But that's really my only complaint. The writing was, for the most part, smart and sharp. All in all, there was far more to like than to dislike. At 45 minutes, it almost seemed too short.

I'm definitely looking forward to the future episodes!

Mountain Man · 03-27-2005, 08:35 PM

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supermeerkat said:
What I want to know is, did the Paul McGann film actually happen? Was it canon?

To my knowledge, Paul McGann is officially recognized as the 8th Doctor. Whether or not his only episode is canon (especially that rubbish about the Doctor being half-human) I couldn't say.

Mountain Man · 03-30-2005, 11:05 AM

Great news for Whovians:

The BBC has given the greenlight to a second season!

Duoae · 03-30-2005, 12:36 PM

Already? They only had one episode!

How many viewers (estimated) wacthed the show on saturday anyway?

supermeerkat · 03-30-2005, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Duoae said:
Already? They only had one episode!

How many viewers (estimated) wacthed the show on saturday anyway?

About 10 million or so, which, I believe is about half the people watching TV on saturday evening in the UK.

Let us all give praise to Russel T. Davis.

Mountain Man · 03-30-2005, 07:20 PM

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Duoae said:
Already? They only had one episode!

I know. I was a bit surprised myself, but apparently the BBC was happy with the ratings and fan reaction. Though the obvious question is, what are they going to do if the next 12 episodes tank?

shiranui · 03-30-2005, 07:25 PM

Well, Eccleston was no Tom Baker.

Eccleston quits Doctor Who role

Good riddance...

Doppelgofer · 03-31-2005, 01:32 AM

well after some of you saying how good it was, i thought i'd give it a download.....

i watched 5 minutes.....deleted

Duoae · 03-31-2005, 02:06 AM

I thought he was good! Shame he is leaving...

As for watching 5 minutes? You watch the first five minutes of the first episode of any new show and you would delete it - setting up the scene and characters is the most boring part of a series.... but it has to be done.

[EDIT]

Also, what are they going to do? Deny Eccleston's existance and say that the new actor is the 9th doctor? Or go through ANOTHER transformation? We'll be at the 12th and final one by the end of next year at this rate.... also i couldn't stand if that cassanova dude was picked.... he's too wimpy......

supermeerkat · 03-31-2005, 02:27 AM

I'd like to see Richard E Grant, or perhaps Eddie Izzard as the Doctor.

cheeseboy · 03-31-2005, 06:27 AM

Theres a poll on the BBC site for 5 possible new doctor choices. I voted for Alan Davies.

Who will be the next Doctor Who?

Mountain Man · 03-31-2005, 08:17 AM

Quote:

shiranui said:
Eccleston quits Doctor Who role

He's quitting after one season? That really sucks! We'll see how the rest of the season shakes out, but he certainly has the potential to be one of the best Doctor's ever.

Well, shame on Russel T. Davies and the rest of the Who crew for not picking a lead who was committed to the project for the long-term.

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Duoae said:
We'll be at the 12th and final one by the end of next year at this rate....

If memory serves, the Doctor can regenerate 12 times, so the final incarnation would actually be number 13 (Hartnell's incarnation is the Doctor's original appearance.)

But I agree, let's hope they don't move through Doctor's too quickly.

Duoae · 03-31-2005, 10:28 AM

Quote:

cheeseboy said:
Theres a poll on the BBC site for 5 possible new doctor choices. I voted for Alan Davies.

Who will be the next Doctor Who?

While i love Alan Davis (he is really funny!) i don't think that he'd suit being the doctor - too sarcastic i feel....

[EDIT]
Oh yeah, i voted for Richard E Grant.

QuiGonJ · 03-31-2005, 11:20 AM

The BBC webiste says they are talking to someone named David Tennant, though at Outpost Gallifrey they are wondering why not let Paul McGann come back and do the role. Even the TVM detractors say his audio dramas as the Doctor have been quite good.

supermeerkat · 03-31-2005, 11:56 AM

I'd like to see McGann come back as well, I thought that he showed potential in the dire movie as well as the radio series. But I don't see that happening. I'd love to see Richard E Grant as the next Doctor - as he is so intense....

03-26-2005, 01:56 PM	#1
Duoae	The Official Doctor Who Thread WARNING from Joe3DR: This thread has discussions of the current episodes of the new series in the UK as well as older discussions. Tread lightly if you don't want the new stuff spoiled. WOW! What can i say, just got off from watching the first episode of Dr. Who and i was not dissapointed at all! I don't want to spoil it for those in other countries who have to wait for it, but it was great. I was planning on recording it to my HDD so i could watch it again (as i have no tapes), but i hadn't got the time to set it up before hand. Nevermind. The only bad thing about the episode was that the BBC ***** up the transmission a bit and had (what i think was) sound from BBC 3's dance show interfering with the broadcast in the first 5-10 mins. That would spoil it for anyone who recorded it and wanted a pristine copy. As for Eccleston, he was great as the new Doctor. Although i think Billie is also good as a companion, i didn't/ couldn't relate to her character very well - partially due to her smiling during running sequences.... Overall EXCELLENT! Rubs hands together __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD. Last edited by Joe Siegler; 06-26-2006 at 09:40 AM.

03-26-2005, 02:00 PM	#2
addfaz	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread first time i've ever watched it very impressed so far cant wait for next episode... __________________ Dukester X Creator Play Rancidmeat and JonoF's port online! visit my Dukester X and Duke Nukem 3D Forums www.dukesterx.net

03-26-2005, 02:03 PM	#3
Duoae	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Yeah, the next episode looks VERY intriguing! Hopefully i'll record it next week. __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD.

03-26-2005, 02:04 PM	#4
X-Vector	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Don't you guys think it was all a bit too silly? __________________ We're on an express elevator to hell... going clown. HELLO, MY FRIEND - freindship make a happiness double times and divide sadness half and make us remove our unhappiness. Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb

03-26-2005, 02:09 PM	#5
Fat John	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I'd never watched an actual current Dr. Who episode, so this was a new experience for me. It was a bit goofy at times, and I found it underwhelming. However I think it has potential... __________________ I am NOT currently stealing avatars. Victim list: Ivan, Cerberus_e, Wamplet, The Baskinator, Drazula, Kalki, Yatta, Kevin's Girl Do NOT press F5 to see the latest avatar.

03-26-2005, 02:10 PM	#7
Duoae	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I liked the silliness of Doctor Who in general. I don't think it's ever been serious as a series. I didn't think it was too silly. I've only disliked K-9 and the "WhoMobile" in all the series.... they were silly. Eccleston makes me think of a combination of Colin Baker and Silvester McCoy.... he has his playful thoughtful side, but there is the hint of a darker layer underneath. __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD.

03-26-2005, 02:41 PM	#8
Nacho	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Doh! I missed it!

03-26-2005, 02:50 PM	#10
bubba	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread If i was 8 years old again, I would be absolutely scared shedless. When the guy lost his head in the restaurant and started thrashing around down on the tables with his massive plastic club hands smashing stuff up, it was brilliant and he was seriously pissed off in a headless rage. Definately hide behind the sofa moment. Absolutely fantastic with the pumping music. A thoroughly enjoyble episode. If it wasnt Dr.Who, I would have thought it was a corney B movie, but nostalgia wins the day.

03-26-2005, 03:02 PM	#11
supermeerkat	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Sylvester McCoy liked it (link to BBC page)

03-26-2005, 04:53 PM	#12
Duoae	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread The thing i want to know most is (spoilers): <font color="#1F1F22"> When the doctor looks in the mirror and exclaims: "Oh! Ah well, could have been worse i suppose." I presume he was referring to his regeneration.... but how did he die? Forgetting the crap that was the film, they didn't explain this and i would love to know how it happened..... </font> __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD.

03-26-2005, 04:54 PM	#13
NutWrench	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I never really got into Doctor Who. I don't know why. __________________ "If by chance some day you're not feeling well and you should remember some silly thing I've said or done and it brings back a smile to your face or a chuckle to your heart, then my purpose as your clown has been fulfilled."

03-26-2005, 05:42 PM	#15
Nacho	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Musn't read spoilers! Does anyone know if they will repeat it this week?

03-26-2005, 07:58 PM	#16
Mountain Man	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Happy to see the positive reports! I'm downloading the episode over bit torrent, so I'll have to watch it later, maybe tomorrow. __________________ The Mountain Man Create your own signature! Fill in the blank: _____________________________________________

03-27-2005, 08:12 AM	#17
cheeseboy	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Despite missing the first ten minutes, I thought it was great. I think Eccleston and Piper look like making a good pair. <table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> That bit with the London eye in the background and a very confused Doctor had me cracking up. </td></tr></table>

03-27-2005, 09:27 AM	#18
Fat John	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Remeber how the fat guy had pictures of the doctor going back hundreds of years, and in the first episode he was surprised by his face? __________________ I am NOT currently stealing avatars. Victim list: Ivan, Cerberus_e, Wamplet, The Baskinator, Drazula, Kalki, Yatta, Kevin's Girl Do NOT press F5 to see the latest avatar.

03-27-2005, 09:45 AM	#19
QuiGonJ	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread BBC3 is running the show at 7PM tonight for you in the UK lucky enough to see it. The BBC says the ratings hit up to 10.5 million last night. I'm still waiting on someone in the US to pick it up.

03-27-2005, 11:34 AM	#22
WestSeven	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I used to love Dr Who and was sure I would be dissapointed but I loved. Perfect balance of humour and action - it's not intended to be series. My favorite line.... <table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler"> Billie: If you're from another planet why do you have a Northern accent? Dr: Other planets have a North </td></tr></table> Made me laugh out loud

03-27-2005, 12:58 PM	#23
Duoae	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Yeah, that was the funniest line in the programme. Loved it. __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD.

03-27-2005, 02:04 PM	#24
HobbesUK	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I quite enjoyed it. Yes, it was rather silly at times - but Dr. Who always has been. I think Billie Piper is quite good, too. I wasn't really sure what her acting ability would be like, but she's not bad at all. I've not actually watched that many of the old Dr. Who episodes. I watched all of the Sylvester McCoy episodes, simply because I was the 'right age' at that time. And I've watched a lot of the Tom Baker episodes. But aside from that, I'm not a Dr. Who aficionado. But it gave me goosebumps when I heard the sound of the TARIDS as it disappeared. I've always loved that sound. The theme tune wasn't as good as it used to be, though

03-27-2005, 08:20 PM	#26
Mountain Man	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread O.K., I just finished watching it, and that was very cool! I think Eccelston is going to make a very cool Doctor. He's relatable but dark and mysterious. He also reminded me a bit of my personal fave, Peter Davison. I like how Sylvester McCoy describes the new Doctor: "He had this manic grin which worried me. We were not sure if he was on the edge of insanity or not, which was rather good. He just ran into danger with such gusto, he galloped at it joyfully." Billie Piper is also surprisingly good. She's nice to look at but she's smart and in control. She seems she's not going to be the cowering female companion from the days of old. Oh, and I really like the dematerialization sequence. Yeah, I had a few quibbles. The climax was a bit of a bore. <table><tr><th><font size="-1">Spoiler below:</font></th></tr><tr><td class="spoiler">The Doctor didn't seem to be struggling nearly hard enough, and letting Rose save the day sort of undermined the strength of his character.</td></tr></table> But that's really my only complaint. The writing was, for the most part, smart and sharp. All in all, there was far more to like than to dislike. At 45 minutes, it almost seemed too short. I'm definitely looking forward to the future episodes! __________________ The Mountain Man Create your own signature! Fill in the blank: _____________________________________________

03-30-2005, 11:05 AM	#28
Mountain Man	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Great news for Whovians: The BBC has given the greenlight to a second season! __________________ The Mountain Man Create your own signature! Fill in the blank: _____________________________________________

03-30-2005, 12:36 PM	#29
Duoae	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Already? They only had one episode! How many viewers (estimated) wacthed the show on saturday anyway? __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD.

03-30-2005, 07:25 PM	#32
shiranui	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Well, Eccleston was no Tom Baker. Eccleston quits Doctor Who role Good riddance... __________________ wibble

03-31-2005, 01:32 AM	#33
Doppelgofer	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread well after some of you saying how good it was, i thought i'd give it a download..... i watched 5 minutes.....deleted __________________ GANDHI BUS!!!111

03-31-2005, 02:06 AM	#34
Duoae	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I thought he was good! Shame he is leaving... As for watching 5 minutes? You watch the first five minutes of the first episode of any new show and you would delete it - setting up the scene and characters is the most boring part of a series.... but it has to be done. [EDIT] Also, what are they going to do? Deny Eccleston's existance and say that the new actor is the 9th doctor? Or go through ANOTHER transformation? We'll be at the 12th and final one by the end of next year at this rate.... also i couldn't stand if that cassanova dude was picked.... he's too wimpy...... __________________ DudeMiester: IT IS ARE THE COOLEREST!!! Roger: OH NOES, TEH END OF TEH WERLD.

03-31-2005, 02:27 AM	#35
supermeerkat	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I'd like to see Richard E Grant, or perhaps Eddie Izzard as the Doctor.

03-31-2005, 06:27 AM	#36
cheeseboy	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread Theres a poll on the BBC site for 5 possible new doctor choices. I voted for Alan Davies. Who will be the next Doctor Who?

03-31-2005, 11:20 AM	#39
QuiGonJ	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread The BBC webiste says they are talking to someone named David Tennant, though at Outpost Gallifrey they are wondering why not let Paul McGann come back and do the role. Even the TVM detractors say his audio dramas as the Doctor have been quite good.

03-31-2005, 11:56 AM	#40
supermeerkat	Re: The Official Doctor Who Thread I'd like to see McGann come back as well, I thought that he showed potential in the dire movie as well as the radio series. But I don't see that happening. I'd love to see Richard E Grant as the next Doctor - as he is so intense....