Iron Man 3

Kalki · 10-23-2012, 03:42 AM

Teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVrT4iaS4LQ

Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EjG-1U3wqA

Pics: http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/10/2...teaser-poster/

FullMetalJacket · 10-23-2012, 04:20 PM

Awesome. There has never been a better time to be a comic book fan...also, we finally get to see the Mandarin!

Kalki · 10-23-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FullMetalJacket

Awesome. There has never been a better time to be a comic book fan...also, we finally get to see the Mandarin!

Indeed. I'm looking forward to seeing Ben Kingsley in this, the villains look better with each movie. Mandarin's accent was somewhat reminiscent of the terrorist leader (10 rings) who kidnaps Stark in the first movie. The trailer was great.

Damien_Azreal · 10-23-2012, 09:12 PM

As long as it's better and more focused then Iron-Man 2, I'll be happy. More in line with the first IM movie.

Kit · 10-24-2012, 09:05 AM

Looks a lot darker than the previous films which I'm liking.

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Originally Posted by Kalki

Indeed. I'm looking forward to seeing Ben Kingsley in this, the villains look better with each movie. Mandarin's accent was somewhat reminiscent of the terrorist leader (10 rings) who kidnaps Stark in the first movie. The trailer was great.

Still can't believe they got Ben Kingsley to play the Mandarin. This is going to be ace.

dan2091 · 10-24-2012, 11:40 PM

I really like the scene where the Iron suit stands over Tony, whether it's just a dream, or something that happens for real in the movie, it looked like a very interesting concept. I haven't read the comics, so I can't tell what's the deal with it. But it intrigues me a lot. The whole trailer looked fantastic.

Kit · 02-17-2013, 07:10 AM

New poster:

Not that far away now. Quite interested in seeing how they end the film with the Avengers 2 tie in.

Kalki · 02-22-2013, 11:59 PM

Mandarin

Kit · 02-23-2013, 11:34 AM

Oh dear. Anyone else getting a bit of a stoner vibe from that poster?

Thief · 02-23-2013, 02:15 PM

Since when is the Mandarin a slouch?

Damien_Azreal · 02-24-2013, 01:35 PM

This is the first Iron Man film I could really care less about seeing.
I loved the first one, but felt the second tried to do "too much" in an attempt to be more then the previous film.

And it hurt it instead of helping it.
And this one... looks... I don't know. Not bad, but... just seems like they are going in the same direction as the second film and not returning to what made the first film great.

Kalki · 03-06-2013, 03:32 AM

New Trailer is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1Y3P9D0Bc

Kit · 03-06-2013, 07:53 AM

Hulkbuster armour right at the very end.

Think I might go see this now but I must catch up on the second first.

Some reports saying this will be Downey's last Iron Man film.

Kalki · 04-27-2013, 05:49 AM

Saw it earlier today. It was an enjoyably engaging movie albeit with some question marks. Packed with a ton of action but quite a bit of it felt over the top. Ben Kingsley was interesting

04-28-2013, 03:17 PM

I really enjoyed the humour and the humanity the film and it's characters provided. It dragged on a bit but was overall enjoyable, albeit forgettable.

Also, I find it funny how the Avengers movie has more Iron Man in it (Stark in his suit, that is) than any of the stand-alone Iron Man movies each, the third being no exception.

Damien_Azreal · 04-28-2013, 07:54 PM

Avengers was basically "Iron Man and Friends".
And, IMO, it's horribly overrated. It's okay, but it's nothing amazing.

I'm interested in seeing Iron Man 3. But, IM2 left a "meh" feeling with me. I liked the first film's more focused direction. The second felt like it was trying way to hard to outdo the first film.
And I've found I've had little interest in the third one. None of the trailers or anything have really made me think, "I really want to see this."

crunchy superman · 04-29-2013, 09:10 AM

I have no interest in seeing this at all. When it hits HBO I'll give it a watch, but that's all.

dan2091 · 04-29-2013, 11:39 AM

Actually, by the look of the trailers I was worried this was going to be bad. But I saw it yesterday, 10 PM presentation and this films was the biggest fun I've had at the theatre for a while. I like it even more than Avengers and the first Ironman.

Compared to previous films, the showdown was miles better.

Spoiler:

Kit · 04-29-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

But, IM2 left a "meh" feeling with me. The second felt like it was trying way to hard to outdo the first film.

I've watched the second since last posting in this thread. Seemed less about action and more about Iron Man MCing his own party and driving formula 1. Only saving grace of the film was the 30 seconds (yes, 30 seconds of a 2 hour film) when War Machine and Iron Man wrecked those robots.

Third seems to be getting a negative reception.

dan2091 · 04-29-2013, 06:22 PM

Most things are in place, nothing like MC Tony... BUT some elements are a get in or get out kind of thing.

Kalki · 05-01-2013, 03:06 AM

Thai sweded trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp6IxvJzZ-k

FullMetalJacket · 05-04-2013, 05:14 PM

So, great movie. Much better than #2, IMO.

Damien_Azreal · 05-04-2013, 05:16 PM

But is it as good as the first one?

I loved the first one. Found the second one... meh. And personally think The Avengers is one of the most overrated "action" films in a long time. It's okay, but it's pretty... meh.

dan2091 · 05-05-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalki

Thai sweded trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp6IxvJzZ-k

The really captured the trailer frame by frame.

FullMetalJacket · 05-06-2013, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

But is it as good as the first one?

I loved the first one. Found the second one... meh. And personally think The Avengers is one of the most overrated "action" films in a long time. It's okay, but it's pretty... meh.

It's up there with the first one. Doesn't quite surpass the first one's brilliance, but it definitely kept me engaged, excited and entertained on a similar level.

Kit · 05-06-2013, 11:29 AM

I think the issue with anything after an origin story for Iron Man is his rogues gallery is terrible. There's no Joker, Penguin, Two Face, Bane, and so on, it's just a never ending list of god awful characters e.g. the mandarin is all magic etc... right? how the hell does that fit in with a film about a man that builds combat suits and mechs?

Thief · 05-06-2013, 05:51 PM

What's wrong with Magic vs Technology? One's traditional, one's modern. One's predictable, the other unpredictable.

FullMetalJacket · 05-06-2013, 08:01 PM

Batman has always had the best villains, and perhaps by coincidence, he's my favorite superhero.

In Iron Man 3, very minor spoiler: Spoiler:

Kalki · 05-07-2013, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kit

I think the issue with anything after an origin story for Iron Man is his rogues gallery is terrible. There's no Joker, Penguin, Two Face, Bane, and so on, it's just a never ending list of god awful characters e.g. the mandarin is all magic etc... right? how the hell does that fit in with a film about a man that builds combat suits and mechs?

Didn't have problems with him or the other products of science(Cap, Hulk) fighting Thor. But then according to Thor (in his eponymous movie), on his world science and magic are one and the same.

My problem with the later movies is that while the villains & third acts got better, the presentation of the "science" elements (which grew increasingly fanciful) was under-developed imo.

Damien_Azreal · 05-07-2013, 06:47 AM

Saw it.
Miles above and beyond the second film. The first one is still the best, but that's because it feels the most focused. It's not about Tony trying to improve something, or overcome something... it's about him becoming who he's meant to be.

The second film, while okay, is a bit of a mess. Disjointed and crammed with characters that don't need to be there and just... meh moments.

This one felt much more focused, had better pacing and MUCH better action sequences.
And honestly, I don't have a problem with Iron Man's enemies. The majority of the Marvel comics have really weak baddies.
But, if they are presented right in the films they could be awesome. Whiplash could've been great in Iron Man 2, but... it felt like they hardly paid any attention to him.

Here, the Mandarin was awesome and I personally loved the twist with him. Killian I also thought was done really well.
Personally, I enjoyed this much more then I enjoyed The Avengers. Honestly, I'm that odd one out that thinks The Avengers is horribly overrated. It's, okay... but it's not the amazing action film people say it is, IMO.

If I had to rate the Marvel movies so far... (the ones that "count" in their series)

Iron Man
Iron Man 3
Thor
Incredible Hulk
The Avengers
Iron Man 2
Captain America

And even then, I loved The Amazing Spider Man more then most those movies.

Kit · 05-07-2013, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Thief

What's wrong with Magic vs Technology? One's traditional, one's modern. One's predictable, the other unpredictable.

I'm not keen on magic superheros. I don't think I'm the only one either as characters like Dr Strange and Captain Marvel have bombed despite having had a huge push.

Damien_Azreal · 05-08-2013, 07:14 AM

Even if it's over the top and unrealistic, people are willing to accept a super hero brought on by science... then magic.

Kit · 05-08-2013, 02:15 PM

Can't tell if you're being sarcy but I agree with the statement.

Even if the science isn't there (Hulk and the gamma rays etc...) they can retcon it later with a more 'realistic' origin story to keep the character relevant.

Damien_Azreal · 05-08-2013, 02:50 PM

No, I was being serious.
Even if the science is over the top and fanciful in it's own way, people are more likely to accept it because it is science. It's grounded in a sense of reality.

Where as with magic we just have to accept it because... it's magic.
It's part of the reason I have issue with The Avengers. They did a great job crafting a grounded, realistic Iron Man in the first film. Making it seem almost plausible. The second stretched it a bit too far at times... but tried to stay with the "real world, it's science" aspect.

And then The Avengers comes in, takes this grounded Iron Man, and throws him in the same ring as alternate dimensional Gods with almost magical powers and aliens... and it just didn't mesh IMO.

It would've been like if they had taken Nolan's Batman series, which had been built completely on the concept of a grounded, realistic(ish) world... and thrown in Solomon Grundy or Clayface. They would've stood out horribly.

Kalki · 05-08-2013, 11:22 PM

Audiences don't have a problem with magic when it's presented Arthur C Clarke-style as sufficiently advanced science. Or as spiritualism, in the case of Star Wars' The Force. Self-consistent magic systems with their own internal logic have put fantasy literature on bestseller lists for years.

Kit · 05-10-2013, 12:43 PM

It clearly has it's audience when based in it's own world otherwise games like Zelda and WoW wouldn't be successful, but when you try to mix it with sci-fi it's a dead duck and completely off putting to me - could you imagine a sci-fi Zelda?

Regarding Star Wars, I never considered 'The force' concept (before Lucas ruined it in the second trilogy) magic. I saw it more as 'the one' type deal we saw in the Matrix where one (or a group) are thinking/acting or are physically on another level compared to the people around them. Plus, the Star Wars characters are all alien as well.

Kalki · 05-10-2013, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kit

It clearly has it's audience when based in it's own world otherwise games like Zelda and WoW wouldn't be successful, but when you try to mix it with sci-fi it's a dead duck and completely off putting to me - could you imagine a sci-fi Zelda?

Regarding Star Wars, I never considered 'The force' concept (before Lucas ruined it in the second trilogy) magic. I saw it more as 'the one' type deal we saw in the Matrix where one (or a group) are thinking/acting or are physically on another level compared to the people around them. Plus, the Star Wars characters are all alien as well.

The Matrix was sci-fi but the sequels tried to obfuscate Neo's Oneness with spiritual elements. Sciencing up the Force with Midichlorians also altered canon and broke self-consistency. Now if Zelda or WoW had sci-fi elements from the start in harmony with fantasy, it could have worked. Look at He-Man (MOTU).

Kit · 05-12-2013, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalki

The Matrix was sci-fi but the sequels tried to obfuscate Neo's Oneness with spiritual elements.

I think this might explain why the sequels are thought of as being far inferior to the first.

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Sciencing up the Force with Midichlorians also altered canon and broke self-consistency.

Yes, I agree. Somethings are better left unknown; the fate of the characters at the end of The Thing; the origin story in Aliens; the knight in Indiana Jones, and so on.

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Now if Zelda or WoW had sci-fi elements from the start in harmony with fantasy, it could have worked. Look at He-Man (MOTU).

I think you're clutching at straws if you have to look at something like He-Man.

Final Fantasy is a better example maybe. I'm not really a fan of that universe though so I'm not 100% sure.

Kalki · 05-14-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kit

I think you're clutching at straws if you have to look at something like He-Man.

Final Fantasy is a better example maybe. I'm not really a fan of that universe though so I'm not 100% sure.

Hey, I liked He-Man. I know nothing of Final Fantasy, I tried playing a demo years ago and it wasn't my thing. A better example might be Warhammer 40,000.

Kit · 05-15-2013, 02:03 PM

I doubt the rise of He-Man would have occurred had it not been for the bodybuilding craze of the 70's/80's. The guy was beyond shredded at a time when most comic book heroes still looked fairly normal.

Wasn't his magic power that he became ripped too?

I want that power.

10-23-2012, 09:12 PM	#4
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Iron Man 3 As long as it's better and more focused then Iron-Man 2, I'll be happy. More in line with the first IM movie. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

02-24-2013, 01:35 PM	#11
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Iron Man 3 This is the first Iron Man film I could really care less about seeing. I loved the first one, but felt the second tried to do "too much" in an attempt to be more then the previous film. And it hurt it instead of helping it. And this one... looks... I don't know. Not bad, but... just seems like they are going in the same direction as the second film and not returning to what made the first film great. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

04-28-2013, 03:17 PM	#15
hellchicken Guest	Re: Iron Man 3 I really enjoyed the humour and the humanity the film and it's characters provided. It dragged on a bit but was overall enjoyable, albeit forgettable. Also, I find it funny how the Avengers movie has more Iron Man in it (Stark in his suit, that is) than any of the stand-alone Iron Man movies each, the third being no exception.

04-28-2013, 07:54 PM	#16
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Iron Man 3 Avengers was basically "Iron Man and Friends". And, IMO, it's horribly overrated. It's okay, but it's nothing amazing. I'm interested in seeing Iron Man 3. But, IM2 left a "meh" feeling with me. I liked the first film's more focused direction. The second felt like it was trying way to hard to outdo the first film. And I've found I've had little interest in the third one. None of the trailers or anything have really made me think, "I really want to see this." __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

05-04-2013, 05:16 PM	#23
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Iron Man 3 But is it as good as the first one? I loved the first one. Found the second one... meh. And personally think The Avengers is one of the most overrated "action" films in a long time. It's okay, but it's pretty... meh. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

10-23-2012, 03:42 AM	#1
Kalki	Iron Man 3 Teaser: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVrT4iaS4LQ Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EjG-1U3wqA Pics: http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/10/2...teaser-poster/ __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

10-23-2012, 04:20 PM	#2
FullMetalJacket	Re: Iron Man 3 Awesome. There has never been a better time to be a comic book fan...also, we finally get to see the Mandarin! __________________ AIM screenname: MGamer16 "My father would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy; the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."

10-24-2012, 11:40 PM	#6
dan2091	Re: Iron Man 3 I really like the scene where the Iron suit stands over Tony, whether it's just a dream, or something that happens for real in the movie, it looked like a very interesting concept. I haven't read the comics, so I can't tell what's the deal with it. But it intrigues me a lot. The whole trailer looked fantastic. __________________ J'etais parti ce matin au bois. Pour toi, mon amour, por toi... -Barbara

02-17-2013, 07:10 AM	#7
Kit	Re: Iron Man 3 New poster: Not that far away now. Quite interested in seeing how they end the film with the Avengers 2 tie in. __________________ "Screw, damn, and bloody do not a sermon make."

02-22-2013, 11:59 PM	#8
Kalki	Re: Iron Man 3 Mandarin __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

02-23-2013, 11:34 AM	#9
Kit	Re: Iron Man 3 Oh dear. Anyone else getting a bit of a stoner vibe from that poster? __________________ "Screw, damn, and bloody do not a sermon make."

02-23-2013, 02:15 PM	#10
Thief	Re: Iron Man 3 Since when is the Mandarin a slouch? __________________ We choose our profession in defiance of the greed of the monarchy. We will not live for the sake of taxes to fatten the nobles' pockets. We choose to live the only life available to those who would truly be free. We are Thieves.

03-06-2013, 03:32 AM	#12
Kalki	Re: Iron Man 3 New Trailer is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke1Y3P9D0Bc __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

03-06-2013, 07:53 AM	#13
Kit	Re: Iron Man 3 Hulkbuster armour right at the very end. Think I might go see this now but I must catch up on the second first. Some reports saying this will be Downey's last Iron Man film. __________________ "Screw, damn, and bloody do not a sermon make."

04-27-2013, 05:49 AM	#14
Kalki	Re: Iron Man 3 Saw it earlier today. It was an enjoyably engaging movie albeit with some question marks. Packed with a ton of action but quite a bit of it felt over the top. Ben Kingsley was interesting __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

04-29-2013, 09:10 AM	#17
crunchy superman	Re: Iron Man 3 I have no interest in seeing this at all. When it hits HBO I'll give it a watch, but that's all. __________________

04-29-2013, 11:39 AM	#18
dan2091	Re: Iron Man 3 Actually, by the look of the trailers I was worried this was going to be bad. But I saw it yesterday, 10 PM presentation and this films was the biggest fun I've had at the theatre for a while. I like it even more than Avengers and the first Ironman. Compared to previous films, the showdown was miles better. Spoiler: Ben Kingsley was great and the 'reveal' of who he really is, actually shocked me at first. I was like wtf, but then I jumped into the idea. It was excellent and I'm glad Mr. Kingsley played this character despite its real nature. I'm sure people who are expecting a lot from Kingsley's Mandarin may end up dissapointed, but as I said, I loved the idea about icons and one creating their own demons. It was excellent and well played. Guy Pearce was good and Robert Downey once again totally owns the role and the movie. __________________ J'etais parti ce matin au bois. Pour toi, mon amour, por toi... -Barbara

04-29-2013, 06:22 PM	#20
dan2091	Re: Iron Man 3 Most things are in place, nothing like MC Tony... BUT some elements are a get in or get out kind of thing. __________________ J'etais parti ce matin au bois. Pour toi, mon amour, por toi... -Barbara

05-01-2013, 03:06 AM	#21
Kalki	Re: Iron Man 3 Thai sweded trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp6IxvJzZ-k __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

05-04-2013, 05:14 PM	#22
FullMetalJacket	Re: Iron Man 3 So, great movie. Much better than #2, IMO. __________________ AIM screenname: MGamer16 "My father would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy; the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."

05-06-2013, 11:29 AM	#26
Kit	Re: Iron Man 3 I think the issue with anything after an origin story for Iron Man is his rogues gallery is terrible. There's no Joker, Penguin, Two Face, Bane, and so on, it's just a never ending list of god awful characters e.g. the mandarin is all magic etc... right? how the hell does that fit in with a film about a man that builds combat suits and mechs? __________________ "Screw, damn, and bloody do not a sermon make."

05-06-2013, 05:51 PM	#27
Thief	Re: Iron Man 3 What's wrong with Magic vs Technology? One's traditional, one's modern. One's predictable, the other unpredictable. __________________ We choose our profession in defiance of the greed of the monarchy. We will not live for the sake of taxes to fatten the nobles' pockets. We choose to live the only life available to those who would truly be free. We are Thieves.

05-06-2013, 08:01 PM	#28
FullMetalJacket	Re: Iron Man 3 Batman has always had the best villains, and perhaps by coincidence, he's my favorite superhero. In Iron Man 3, very minor spoiler: Spoiler: Aldrich Killian has dragon tattoos on his chest, which are a subtle reference to Fin Fang Foom. __________________ AIM screenname: MGamer16 "My father would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy; the sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament."

05-07-2013, 06:47 AM	#30
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Iron Man 3 Saw it. Miles above and beyond the second film. The first one is still the best, but that's because it feels the most focused. It's not about Tony trying to improve something, or overcome something... it's about him becoming who he's meant to be. The second film, while okay, is a bit of a mess. Disjointed and crammed with characters that don't need to be there and just... meh moments. This one felt much more focused, had better pacing and MUCH better action sequences. And honestly, I don't have a problem with Iron Man's enemies. The majority of the Marvel comics have really weak baddies. But, if they are presented right in the films they could be awesome. Whiplash could've been great in Iron Man 2, but... it felt like they hardly paid any attention to him. Here, the Mandarin was awesome and I personally loved the twist with him. Killian I also thought was done really well. Personally, I enjoyed this much more then I enjoyed The Avengers. Honestly, I'm that odd one out that thinks The Avengers is horribly overrated. It's, okay... but it's not the amazing action film people say it is, IMO. If I had to rate the Marvel movies so far... (the ones that "count" in their series) Iron Man Iron Man 3 Thor Incredible Hulk The Avengers Iron Man 2 Captain America And even then, I loved The Amazing Spider Man more then most those movies. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

05-08-2013, 07:14 AM	#32
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Iron Man 3 Even if it's over the top and unrealistic, people are willing to accept a super hero brought on by science... then magic. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

05-08-2013, 02:15 PM	#33
Kit	Re: Iron Man 3 Can't tell if you're being sarcy but I agree with the statement. Even if the science isn't there (Hulk and the gamma rays etc...) they can retcon it later with a more 'realistic' origin story to keep the character relevant. __________________ "Screw, damn, and bloody do not a sermon make."

05-08-2013, 02:50 PM	#34
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Iron Man 3 No, I was being serious. Even if the science is over the top and fanciful in it's own way, people are more likely to accept it because it is science. It's grounded in a sense of reality. Where as with magic we just have to accept it because... it's magic. It's part of the reason I have issue with The Avengers. They did a great job crafting a grounded, realistic Iron Man in the first film. Making it seem almost plausible. The second stretched it a bit too far at times... but tried to stay with the "real world, it's science" aspect. And then The Avengers comes in, takes this grounded Iron Man, and throws him in the same ring as alternate dimensional Gods with almost magical powers and aliens... and it just didn't mesh IMO. It would've been like if they had taken Nolan's Batman series, which had been built completely on the concept of a grounded, realistic(ish) world... and thrown in Solomon Grundy or Clayface. They would've stood out horribly. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

05-08-2013, 11:22 PM	#35
Kalki	Re: Iron Man 3 Audiences don't have a problem with magic when it's presented Arthur C Clarke-style as sufficiently advanced science. Or as spiritualism, in the case of Star Wars' The Force. Self-consistent magic systems with their own internal logic have put fantasy literature on bestseller lists for years. __________________ "Gentlemen, generations to follow will see us as the first pioneers of the internet. They will look upon our days as those of brave spirits and free ideals - where men were men, women were men and children were the FBI." Free Speech

05-10-2013, 12:43 PM	#36
Kit	Re: Iron Man 3 It clearly has it's audience when based in it's own world otherwise games like Zelda and WoW wouldn't be successful, but when you try to mix it with sci-fi it's a dead duck and completely off putting to me - could you imagine a sci-fi Zelda? Regarding Star Wars, I never considered 'The force' concept (before Lucas ruined it in the second trilogy) magic. I saw it more as 'the one' type deal we saw in the Matrix where one (or a group) are thinking/acting or are physically on another level compared to the people around them. Plus, the Star Wars characters are all alien as well. __________________ "Screw, damn, and bloody do not a sermon make."

05-15-2013, 02:03 PM	#40
Kit	Re: Iron Man 3 I doubt the rise of He-Man would have occurred had it not been for the bodybuilding craze of the 70's/80's. The guy was beyond shredded at a time when most comic book heroes still looked fairly normal. Wasn't his magic power that he became ripped too? I want that power. __________________ "Screw, damn, and bloody do not a sermon make."