"Destroying" Dr. Goldfire

006 3/4 · 01-02-2008, 10:29 AM

In BS:AoG, one of the things an informant says is "To destroy Dr. Goldfire, shoot him when he initiates warpout." I've tried shooting Goldfire during every phase of his warpout, but he just disappears like he always does. Am I doing something wrong?

Joe Siegler · 01-02-2008, 07:54 PM

/me hides.

Been too long, I don't remember. I can ask, but I think this might fall under "Uh, oops".

Little Conqueror · 01-02-2008, 07:58 PM

Yeah, there is no way to destroy Dr. Goldfire. The frames for his death aren't even in the graphics files for the game.

Player Lin · 01-03-2008, 04:26 AM

I like to shooting Dr. Goldfire because of hitting him will be get scores.
But I always thinks he looks like unkillable.

Maybe that(Dr.Goldfire)'s a homolographic or somethings...

"Destroying" him not equal to "Killing" him.

jamessnee1 · 01-03-2008, 08:04 AM

from the tech support section of the site:

Game Hint - Episode 6 Level 9

In Blake Stone episode 6 level 9, you cannot kill Dr. Goldfire (this privilege is reserved for Blake Stone: Planet Strike). In order to finish the game, you must find and locate all ten generators. The generators are long cylindrical objects, that when destroyed leave a burning mess on the floor.

When I first got Blake Stone, I was disappointed because I wanted to do the same thing

but I recently bought Planet Strike and completed it. It rocks! Highly recommended

IceColdDuke · 01-03-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

/me hides.

Been too long, I don't remember. I can ask, but I think this might fall under "Uh, oops".

You could always release the source code and let us fix it

Joe Siegler · 01-04-2008, 10:51 AM

That's not up to us. We don't have rights to release source code for everything.

You also assume it still exists. In a lot of cases from that era, those materials are no longer around.

IceColdDuke · 01-05-2008, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

That's not up to us. We don't have rights to release source code for everything.

You also assume it still exists. In a lot of cases from that era, those materials are no longer around.

Joe: I know this is completlly off topic, WAY off topic, but who owns the rights to blake stone?

ryche · 01-05-2008, 05:55 PM

According to Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Jam doesn't exist - in fact one of the programmers works at Ion Storm, or at least he used to the last time I checked.

The rights belong to us, and we're not interested in doing another Blake Stone game, or licensing anyone to do it.

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showpo...98&postcount=3

Joe Siegler · 01-08-2008, 02:29 PM

I'm talking about release of the source code, not sequel rights. They're not the same, the last time I looked.

ryche · 01-08-2008, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

I'm talking about release of the source code, not sequel rights. They're not the same, the last time I looked.

Joe - If you're referrin to what I quoted I'm sorry. I thought the thread that I grabbed it from was talkin about sequels cause I thought the original post of that thread asked if he could buy the rights or something for a sequel or something to that nature. My bad.

IceColdDuke · 01-11-2008, 01:07 PM

if one wanted to look into seeing if the developers had the source who would be most probable of still having it?

Pontiaction · 01-11-2008, 01:48 PM

Blake was actually developed by JAM Productions, but I can't find any information on them. Obviously they are no longer around.

Some of this stuff was brought up in this way old post:

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1420

Joe Siegler · 01-11-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceColdDuke

if one wanted to look into seeing if the developers had the source who would be most probable of still having it?

I already looked into it about two years ago. Doesn't exist.

Little Conqueror · 01-12-2008, 02:42 AM

All of the Blake Stone features have been coded into Wolfenstein 3-D mods for some time. I don't think a Blake Stone source code release would even include anything that some of the Wolf 3-D stuff I've made and seen others made haven't done.

Unless you're talking about making a Blake Stone mod that adds weapons or something. Then you'd be SOL.

Dopefish7590 · 01-12-2008, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pontiaction

Blake was actually developed by JAM Productions, but I can't find any information on them. Obviously they are no longer around.

Some of this stuff was brought up in this way old post:

http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1420

they worked in-house with 3dr check the apogee legacy series under company info in the sidebar of this webpage, they said JAM stood for "Jim And Mike" the 2 develpoers

Joe Siegler · 01-13-2008, 12:41 AM

Yeah, "company" names back then frequently were something just made up to make it seem "bigger" than it actually was. Don't forget in that day it was not uncommon for a game development team to be two or three people - and THAT WAS IT. Not like today.

Dopefish7590 · 01-15-2008, 10:57 PM

well... there are still 1-4 develpoer projects that have a large fanbase... but they are normally open source and freeware. unlike where in 1990's 2 people could make a game and sell it... i guess sourceforge.net is a small development team's best friend now.

Jiminator · 01-15-2008, 11:47 PM

kind of strange to think that digital media was thought to last forever. that simply is not the case, as hollywood is finding out. Old floppy disks will lose their data coherency, as eventually will parked hard drives. the various cd/dvd roms are supposed to last but also may be subject to 'rot' as the write layer decays or seperates. not surprising to have old source code that simply cannot be found...

Dopefish7590 · 01-16-2008, 08:55 PM

true... but then again... that is why people have backups of their stuff, not everyone thinks that their stuff on a floppy or cd will last forever...

01-02-2008, 07:54 PM	#2
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire /me hides. Been too long, I don't remember. I can ask, but I think this might fall under "Uh, oops". __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

01-04-2008, 10:51 AM	#7
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire That's not up to us. We don't have rights to release source code for everything. You also assume it still exists. In a lot of cases from that era, those materials are no longer around. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

01-08-2008, 02:29 PM	#10
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire I'm talking about release of the source code, not sequel rights. They're not the same, the last time I looked. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

01-13-2008, 12:41 AM	#17
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire Yeah, "company" names back then frequently were something just made up to make it seem "bigger" than it actually was. Don't forget in that day it was not uncommon for a game development team to be two or three people - and THAT WAS IT. Not like today. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

01-02-2008, 10:29 AM	#1
006 3/4	"Destroying" Dr. Goldfire In BS:AoG, one of the things an informant says is "To destroy Dr. Goldfire, shoot him when he initiates warpout." I've tried shooting Goldfire during every phase of his warpout, but he just disappears like he always does. Am I doing something wrong? __________________ Cor Cordis

01-02-2008, 07:58 PM	#3
Little Conqueror	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire Yeah, there is no way to destroy Dr. Goldfire. The frames for his death aren't even in the graphics files for the game. __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

01-03-2008, 04:26 AM	#4
Player Lin	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire I like to shooting Dr. Goldfire because of hitting him will be get scores. But I always thinks he looks like unkillable. Maybe that(Dr.Goldfire)'s a homolographic or somethings... "Destroying" him not equal to "Killing" him. __________________ It's my ROTT introduce site, easily structure. http://playerlin.myweb.hinet.net/rott/ Sorry, please don't care my poor "Grammar of English"... faint Sadly, it died temporary due to I used my all of times on RealLife(TM) and playing Games! XD Player Lin escaped from the hell of making website. Last edited by Player Lin; 01-03-2008 at 04:30 AM.

01-03-2008, 08:04 AM	#5
jamessnee1	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire from the tech support section of the site: Game Hint - Episode 6 Level 9 In Blake Stone episode 6 level 9, you cannot kill Dr. Goldfire (this privilege is reserved for Blake Stone: Planet Strike). In order to finish the game, you must find and locate all ten generators. The generators are long cylindrical objects, that when destroyed leave a burning mess on the floor. When I first got Blake Stone, I was disappointed because I wanted to do the same thing but I recently bought Planet Strike and completed it. It rocks! Highly recommended

01-11-2008, 01:07 PM	#12
IceColdDuke	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire if one wanted to look into seeing if the developers had the source who would be most probable of still having it?

01-11-2008, 01:48 PM	#13
Pontiaction	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire Blake was actually developed by JAM Productions, but I can't find any information on them. Obviously they are no longer around. Some of this stuff was brought up in this way old post: http://forums.3drealms.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1420 __________________ "Zilda treats him with contempt, but this does not stop him. In fact, it appears to draw him in further. He's eroticized her loathing; how quaint." -Taren Capel

01-12-2008, 02:42 AM	#15
Little Conqueror	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire All of the Blake Stone features have been coded into Wolfenstein 3-D mods for some time. I don't think a Blake Stone source code release would even include anything that some of the Wolf 3-D stuff I've made and seen others made haven't done. Unless you're talking about making a Blake Stone mod that adds weapons or something. Then you'd be SOL. __________________ If wishes were fishes, we'd smell like ladies' underwear. "If you join the good fight, you get 72 domain names when you die." -- Wamplet

01-15-2008, 10:57 PM	#18
Dopefish7590	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire well... there are still 1-4 develpoer projects that have a large fanbase... but they are normally open source and freeware. unlike where in 1990's 2 people could make a game and sell it... i guess sourceforge.net is a small development team's best friend now.

01-15-2008, 11:47 PM	#19
Jiminator	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire kind of strange to think that digital media was thought to last forever. that simply is not the case, as hollywood is finding out. Old floppy disks will lose their data coherency, as eventually will parked hard drives. the various cd/dvd roms are supposed to last but also may be subject to 'rot' as the write layer decays or seperates. not surprising to have old source code that simply cannot be found... __________________ big badass nasty weapons here....

01-16-2008, 08:55 PM	#20
Dopefish7590	Re: "Destroying" Dr. Goldfire true... but then again... that is why people have backups of their stuff, not everyone thinks that their stuff on a floppy or cd will last forever...