Keen and the Moon Stone again

[cyborg]

If there's to be a vote I'd have to vote for the bottom right image corebrainz drew: it's exactly how I'd envisage a cartoony hires keen to look like.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyborg:
If there's to be a vote I'd have to vote for the bottom right image corebrainz drew: it's exactly how I'd envisage a cartoony hires keen to look like.

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Heh heh sorry Cyborg, as much as I'd love to have done it, it's not mine, it's Mort Mcmire's, but yeah,That one's the best looking out of the picture, Hoborg, please chang him man.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gamedude:
Will the people that made the game get the full ver for free?

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Yes, Commander Keen and the Moon Stone is freeware.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Admiral_Bob:
That Keen's helmet also looks more like a banana peel to me, you might like to fix that as well

Why not try some others and post them on this forum, see what other people think?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In my opinion Keen's old helmet was way too big. I must have tamed it down TOO much, though.

And, as you requested, a new concept will be here in 30 minutes.

OK even earlier

Isn't that basically the same thing with a different facial expression???

Look at this guy's art: http://www.3drealms.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000079.html

[This message has been edited by corebrainz (edited 08-08-2000).]

Hmmm - yes, well, at least he doenst look like a retard anymore. (I whipped that picture up in 4 minutes, I'm gonna work on others.) Of course what I meant is that this would be his main expression in the game, his idle animation.

Here it is,



By Zingers 3000

Very nice, but too much like EWJ for this game

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by corebrainz:
Some improvement has been made on that 'gut' (guy)Although he still looks like he has some sort of disorder or something. But I guess you're determined to keep him looking like that. It's your project. The skill of you're art is impressive, but the retarded noodle head keen you drew is awful, well good luck.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope, I'm still changing it. So how does he still look retarded?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by corebrainz:
Hoborg, please chang him man.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since people want me too I definitely will, but HOW should I change it? In what sense? When people say he looks retarded (which I don't think he does anymore) what do they mean? Are his eyes crossed? Do they not like his nose or something??? Clearer answers needed for a change.

[cyborg]

I can't be any more explict than saying: that head looks just how I'd expect Keen to look.

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I don't know what it is, but for some reason he just looks dumb, espescially for being Commander Keen. Like Cyborg said, the one on thr bottom right's the best. I'm really interested in this game, I really want to play it, but not as that wierd lookin Keen.

OK, I'll keep redesinging Keen

You should stick to the original model of Keen as mich as possible.


Just remember, hoborg, you can't please everybody...

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Commander Khaine:
Just remember, hoborg, you can't please everybody...

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I'll remember that - but somehow the original Keen almost did.

The helmet is supposed to be round. It's a FOOTBALL helmet. A Green Bay Packers football helmet to be exact. The last time I checked, football helmets were rounded. To make the helmet anything but round could be considered defacing the artist's work. The Green Bay Packers Helmet is an important visual characteristic of Commander Keen. It's the first thing I think of when I think of Commander Keen's appearence.

No, check the latest post. It's rounded.

[Theseus314]

so it's just like this (minus the clock)

THANKYOU!!! THANKYOU!!!!

For once somebody showed me just what
the people want! No wonder they've been
complaining!!! I'll set to work
immediately.

[JR Ewing]

I would like to help with KMS but I'm not sure how I could. I've never designed side scroller levels but from the great comments I get about my Wolf3d levels, I think I could do really well. I can't do programming or anything like that, basically the only thing I could help with (and I'm not even really sure about this) would be levels. Let me know.

JR Ewing

I Might make a keen game too... ive been pondering about it for sometime. I was just wondering if it was ok with Apogeee/3dr.

Wolf3d levels? haha. Anyone can make a wolf3d level that's playable. I suggest you get someone else to be the artist, and instead of square-tile based engine, use one like Earthworm Jim used, one where you'd stick different peices of hand-drawn (Or in your case it could be done in 3d studio max) landscape together at joint spots. hard to explain...

While Wolf 3D levels are easier to make they can still prove a challenge.

And tiles are hand drawn.

Oh yeah - if anyone wants to send level designs (basic ones)
send them to:

[email protected]

Thanks

[Theseus314]

"Or in your case it could be done in 3d studio max"

They have already tricked me into doing some of this for them.

Gits

Anyhow, the wolf3d engine is a challenge, just look at any of JoeSiegler's Rott levels, he has taken the engine to it's limits, and in most cases, an addition to the levels he makes are a real impossibility. Also, there is a big difference between a wolf3d level, and a good one.

I was just wondering how this game was going, or if you are still doing it.

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Hope this will solve all those mysteries...

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[This message has been edited by hoborg (edited 09-20-2000).]