Will Prey be supported in Windows Vista ?

[IceColdDuke]

Originally Posted by Basscadet

By the way, I hope the Prey guys realize that Vista isn't that far off. January 2007 is only 5 months away. It's not too healthy to think of it as this far-off, futuristic OS when it's essentially just around the corner.

Its a driver problem not a problem with the Doom 3/Prey engine, sense there focusing on DX10 with the new shader model I dunno how concerned they are with backwards compadibility with OpenGL atleast for now, it might be after RTM before proper OpenGL support will be in Vista.

[RPLavatar]

While there are partnerships between ATI and MS. The fact still remains that Nvidia is much more on top of things as far as driver support. Just another reason why I'll never buy an ATI card.

[neffets]

Just saw this @ the ATI website. I was checking if any updates were posted or even a new beta driver was available from ATI for Windows Vista, when this KB article was given at the side of entering the driver download.

Haven't given it a try myself yet, but should be worth a try at least. It concerns ATI and openGL under Vista.

https://support.ati.com/ics/support/...&folderID=5712

[neffets]

Seems like the link that I was talking about in the post above is not there anymore. It's just pointing to the driver download link @ the ATI website.

No worries, as the link proved to have nothing to do with our little problem. It was referring to other openGL related problems on non-Windows platforms.

Guess we just all have to wait till ATI get ther s*** together and update their drivers. I'm kinda regretting buying an ATI card, since I had nVidia cards before this one. This openGL and ATI driver "problem" has been haunting me ever since I bought the card almost 2 years ago. Looks like I'm going back to nVidia next time if things don't change.

Cheers

[Zetaprime]

Originally Posted by StonerKen

I am running Vista Beta 2 and managed to get prey running great with a bit of file switching.. any problems hit me up and ill help

Just what files did you switch? And what did you switch them with?

[corn wizard]

I've got a legal gold copy of Vista with the lastest Nvid drivers (for a 7600 GS 512 MB) and it doesn't work. BF2 on the other hand works very nicely- Vista seems to manage RAM a lot better than XP (4 gigs = smooth).

[hanged_man]

Originally Posted by corn wizard

Vista seems to manage RAM a lot better than XP (4 gigs = smooth).

sure its going to be smooth ...You have 4 f**** gigs

[neffets]

Unbelievable! ATI has released their RTM drivers for Vista, but still no openGl support!!!!

That's it... I'm switching back to Nvidia next time I'm buying a new gfx card. I've had it with ATI and openGl problems!

[corn wizard]

Originally Posted by hanged_man

sure its going to be smooth ...You have 4 f**** gigs

True, XP was capped @ 3gigs I believe. When I had 2gigs of RAM for BF2 on my XP box it made no difference when compared to 1 gig of RAM. When I put 2 1/2 gigs in my Vista box it made a big difference, and then bumping to 4, an even bigger diff.

But still, the NVID card w/Vista beta drivers or reg drivers won't run Prey.

StonerKen- what's the secret?

[StonerKen]

first what version of vista you running? and i am using the nvidia drivers (newest release) and also had to copy and paste a file from my xp system (dont remember what it was) i am gonna uninstall and reinstall and see what happens ill post back later today with what i had to do since im sure ill have to replace the file again

[corn wizard]

I'm running Vista Ultimate 6.0.6000 Build 6000. I'm using the latest Nforce drivers which are for Vista x86. I have the reg Nvidia XP drivers too, but they don't work either.

[IceColdDuke]

You have to wait for Forceware X, I havent tried prey...the released RC2 drivers have mininmal OpenGL Support, I dont know off hand what extensions its lacking for prey.

Just your going to have to wait untill the ICV's release final RTM drivers, or beta ones that arent crap.

Why don't the makers of prey make a patch to allow it to run in directX rather than having to use OpenGL anyway? This would bypass all these issues. I also have an ATI card in windows Vista and have just bought Prey but am unable to play it.
Is there no switch to force it to use directX/direct3d rendering instead?

[IceColdDuke]

Originally Posted by goggo

Why don't the makers of prey make a patch to allow it to run in directX rather than having to use OpenGL anyway? This would bypass all these issues. I also have an ATI card in windows Vista and have just bought Prey but am unable to play it.
Is there no switch to force it to use directX/direct3d rendering instead?

Besides spending a year to re-write the whole back end renderer...no, not sure how much of the front-end would have to be re-written.

[Sedistik]

I just purchased Prey yesterday, to run on my Vista Laptop (wish I checked first). I am unable to get it to run.
Below is the error log from attempting to run the game (as Administrator).

Laptop info.
Centrino Duo T2300 (1.66Ghz)
1 Gig DDR2 memory
Ati X1400 video (512 Meg DDR2)
running Vista Ultimate (RTM).

------------ Error Log -----------------------

Prey 1.2.116 win-x86 Sep 18 2006 16:54:05
1666 MHz Intel CPU with MMX & SSE & SSE2 & SSE3 & HTT
1024 MB System Memory
9 MB Video Memory
Winsock Initialized
Found interface: {56A53E38-4177-49B6-A500-6A6ED732637B} Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection - 0.0.0.0 NULL netmask - skipped
Found interface: {E7BCEF93-6311-40A3-8C7F-05DC7463B9E3} Broadcom NetLink (TM) Gigabit Ethernet - 150.160.24.108/255.255.252.0
Sys_InitNetworking: adding loopback interface
prey using MMX & SSE & SSE2 & SSE3 for SIMD processing
enabled Flush-To-Zero mode
enabled Denormals-Are-Zero mode
------ Initializing File System ------
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\game00.pk4 with checksum 0xff851bf2
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak000.pk4 with checksum 0x7dc00ede
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak001.pk4 with checksum 0xd06647b1
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak002.pk4 with checksum 0x57dce443
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak003.pk4 with checksum 0x263006fe
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak004.pk4 with checksum 0xcc075380
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak005.pk4 with checksum 0xead35190
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak006.pk4 with checksum 0xed8ce397
Current search path:
C:\Program Files\Prey/base
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak006.pk4 (108 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak005.pk4 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak004.pk4 (3739 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak003.pk4 (4111 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak002.pk4 (5337 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak001.pk4 (6270 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak000.pk4 (3318 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\game00.pk4 (2 files)
game DLL: 0x0 in pak: 0x0
Addon pk4s:
file system initialized.
--------------------------------------
----- Initializing Decls -----
------------------------------
------- Initializing renderSystem --------
using ARB renderSystem
renderSystem initialized.
--------------------------------------
2661 strings read from strings/english001.lang
Couldn't open journal files
couldn't exec editor.cfg
execing default.cfg
couldn't exec preyconfig.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
2661 strings read from strings/english001.lang
----- Initializing Sound System ------
sound system initialized.
--------------------------------------
----- R_InitOpenGL -----
Initializing OpenGL subsystem
...registered window class
...registered fake window class
...initializing QGL
...calling LoadLibrary( 'opengl32' ): succeeded
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetExtensionsStringARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglSwapIntervalEXT
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetPixelFormatAttribfvARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglChoosePixelFormatARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglCreatePbufferARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetPbufferDCARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglReleasePbufferDCARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglDestroyPbufferARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglQueryPbufferARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglBindTexImageARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglReleaseTexImageARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglSetPbufferAttribARB
...calling CDS: ok
...created window @ 0,0 (640x480)
Initializing OpenGL driver
...getting DC: succeeded
...PIXELFORMAT 7 selected
...creating GL context: succeeded
...making context current: succeeded
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetExtensionsStringARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglSwapIntervalEXT
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetPixelFormatAttribivARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetPixelFormatAttribfvARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglChoosePixelFormatARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglCreatePbufferARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglGetPbufferDCARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglReleasePbufferDCARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglDestroyPbufferARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglQueryPbufferARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglBindTexImageARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglReleaseTexImageARB
Couldn't find proc address for: wglSetPbufferAttribARB

------- Input Initialization -------
Initializing DirectInput...
mouse: DirectInput initialized.
keyboard: DirectInput initialized.
------------------------------------
...initializing OpenAL
...calling LoadLibrary( 'openal32.dll' ): failed
...initializing OpenAL
...calling LoadLibrary( 'openal32.dll' ): failed
sound: STEREO
X..GL_ARB_multitexture not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_env_combine not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_cube_map not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_env_add not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two not found
X..GL_ARB_texture_compression not found
X..GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic not found
X..GL_EXT_texture_lod not found
X..GL_1.4_texture_lod_bias not found
X..GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette not found
X..GL_EXT_texture3D not found
X..GL_EXT_stencil_wrap not found
X..GL_NV_register_combiners not found
X..GL_EXT_stencil_two_side not found
X..GL_ATI_separate_stencil not found
X..GL_ATI_fragment_shader not found
X..GL_ATI_text_fragment_shader not found
X..GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object not found
X..GL_ARB_vertex_program not found
X..GL_ARB_fragment_program not found
********************
ERROR: The current video card / driver combination does not support the necessary features.
********************
The current video card / driver combination does not support the necessary features.
Shutting down OpenGL subsystem
...wglMakeCurrent( NULL, NULL ): success
...deleting GL context: success
...releasing DC: success
...destroying window
...resetting display
...shutting down QGL
...unloading OpenGL DLL

[IceColdDuke]

Install these drivers: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_96.85.html

[Sedistik]

Can't install those. Those are nVidia. My laptop is ATI.

[IceColdDuke]

Despite what vendor its from there will be no proper OpenGL support in Vista till the consumer launch in January. .

NVIDIA is the only video card vendor that has minimal OpenGL support, minimal as in its lacking some extensions(like FBO's).

[corn wizard]

Got it to work finally- not as simple as just using the new nvid drivers though.

97.46 English wouldn't install, so I had to use the international version of 97.46 ...

Prey then gave me an error about gamex86.dll not being able to be copied to c:\program files\prey\base (for some reason this folder is read only even though I'm logged in as admin, I couldn't change the permissions on it.. ). So I extracted the gamex86.dll from pak0 file in the base folder to a temp folder using Winrar. Then I was able to copy gamex86.dll to c:\program files\prey\base and the game finally worked.

[kroner79]

i just bought the windows vista maybe a week ago, installed it, now the game works great no problems with it what so ever (thats without the patch 1.2), with the win. xp i could barely start the game

Look at the attachments to see, the "funny" lighting-error occuring on Vista.
(Characters split into half and edges seem very harsh)
On XP (second screenshot) everything ran fine.

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OS: Microsoft Windows Vista, Business
GPU: ATI 9600 Pro, latest driver
CPU: Intel 3,0 GHz

Prey v.1.3

[F131]

I have the exact same problem with Vista Home Premium. This sucks because the game demo played great on my laptop when I was using XP.

HP ZD8000
P4 3.4 HT
2 GB of RAM
X600 256 MB

Doom3 is looking butt-ugly too!
See attachments.

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OS: Microsoft Windows Vista, Business
GPU: ATI 9600 Pro, latest driver
CPU: Intel 3,0 GHz
RAM: 1024MB

Doom3 v.1.3 (latest patch)

[texaseagle76]

yes you can play Prey on Windows Vista... it is a Mircrosoft Operation system... it did say windows 2000 or xp or higher.. and Vista is higher then both.. all vista is, is an upgrade of windows xp... so yes it will work.

I made Tommy crawl the walls on Vista-Utlimate_x64 (OEM final) with ATI's-1950 Pro GPU and their latest driver. Somewhat problematic, but somehow the Prey kicked in after starting Preyd. I also installed latest M$ DirectX-2007, just for the heck of it, since Vista installs Directx-10 API during setup. That's all folks

Hi Guys,
Managed to get Prey working in Vista by right-right clicking and selecting 'run as administrator' then you won't have the insufficient security privileges problem on first load.
The game however takes AGES to load on my machine, which is odd as it loaded quite fast when I was using XP. The game itself is silky smooth when its loaded, but each level and the initial load time is about 15mins. Anyone else have this problem? I haven't patched the game to the latest version yet though so I might try that.

[F131]

[QUOTE=Nova;512922]Hi Guys,
Managed to get Prey working in Vista by right-right clicking and selecting 'run as administrator' then you won't have the insufficient security privileges problem on first load.
QUOTE]

What are you right-clicking? I am the only one using my computer so I would assume I am the administrator.

[Nexus_sa]

I just did a full install of Vista Premium from XP Pro. Prey played great on the XP machine (ATI xt850 card) but in Vista it's laggy as all hell with the framerate it's getting. Really weird that there was such a huge decrease in performance. The machine has a gig of ram and the above mentioned card, but most importantly played PREY smoothly before the upgrade.

I have the latest Creative Audigy 2 Vista drivers and the latest Catalyst.

Any ideas?

ps: I'm using Steam whereas on XP I was using Triton

[Foxy]

Vista runs a lot of games slow atm. Don't worry about it.

[Altered Reality]

Wasn't there a "patch" to download from the Microsoft site, which enabled native OpenGL support on Windows Vista?

[Foxy]

I thought it was more that drivers etc are just plain slow atm.

[Nexus_sa]

I can't help but wonder if it's creative's sound driver. I'm going to try and disable sound tonight and see if it runs smoother (if it's possible to do that)

[Hawk]

See my dillemma is that I can start it, look at the Task Manager and it's running but nothing ever comes up on screen. What gives? I don't even get any error messages.

[Hawk]

System:
Windows Vista (dual boot with XP)
2.53GHz P4
1GB RAM

Ran perfect in XP, but will not load fully in Vista.

I just did a +set logfile 2 or whatever to the system and got:


log file 'qconsole.log' opened on Sat May 19 12:54:06 2007

Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\game00.pk4 with checksum 0xff851bf2
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\game02.pk4 with checksum 0xaa46eb08
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak000.pk4 with checksum 0x7dc00ede
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak001.pk4 with checksum 0xd06647b1
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak002.pk4 with checksum 0x57dce443
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak003.pk4 with checksum 0x263006fe
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak004.pk4 with checksum 0xcc075380
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak005.pk4 with checksum 0xead35190
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak006.pk4 with checksum 0xed8ce397
Loaded pk4 C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak020.pk4 with checksum 0x39191193
Current search path:
C:\Program Files\Prey/base
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak020.pk4 (23 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak006.pk4 (108 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak005.pk4 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak004.pk4 (3739 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak003.pk4 (4111 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak002.pk4 (5337 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak001.pk4 (6270 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\pak000.pk4 (3318 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\game02.pk4 (10 files)
C:\Program Files\Prey\base\game00.pk4 (2 files)
game DLL: 0x0 in pak: 0x0
Addon pk4s:
file system initialized.
--------------------------------------
----- Initializing Decls -----
------------------------------
------- Initializing renderSystem --------
using ARB renderSystem
renderSystem initialized.
--------------------------------------
2661 strings read from strings/english001.lang
Couldn't open journal files
couldn't exec editor.cfg
execing default.cfg
execing preyconfig.cfg
couldn't exec autoexec.cfg
2661 strings read from strings/english001.lang
----- Initializing Sound System ------
sound system initialized.
--------------------------------------
----- R_InitOpenGL -----
Initializing OpenGL subsystem
...registered window class
...registered fake window class
...initializing QGL
...calling LoadLibrary( 'opengl32' ): succeeded