Shadow Warrior 3D Modelling Project

[nicram_kl]

OK I'm back in bussines!
... and already have a problem - cant get my hands + sword model and draw anim to work. I think the problem is in my def file -it looks like that:

// sword (2080)
model "highres/sprites/firstperson/sword_draw_test.md3" {
scale 1.0
skin { pal 0 file "highres/sprites/firstperson/hands2_17.jpg" }
frame { name "idle0" tile 2080 }
anim { frame0 "idle0" frame1 "idle20" fps 30 flags 1 }
}

I've tried various different settings but it doesn't show in game or even an error in the console.
I know that the problem looks similar to my first model but I don't have a clue what can be wrong(I think then it was something with texture).

Note that model and texture is in early test stages so it has only 1 animation and bad texture and bad position but thats no the case.

Hope you understand.

I've attached my work but I don't think that at this stage it will be usefull for you Blendercon.

Hmm after some thinking I think it could be problem that i haven't done proper uwm map/texture for sword itself but only hands.

The render:

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=LyGY1ajPHVM

[Blendercon]

oil.PNG
Oil.zip

[Blendercon]

I found how to create Shuriken paper if it involves people.
mas.jpg

[Mr.Fibbles]

Only if someone wants to turn it into a 3D Model. . .

[Blendercon]

Only if someone wants to turn it into a 3D Model. . .

Yes, it's true.
But I posted this picture to motivate people especially

[Spiker]

Oh my! These threads are so close to be dead. That fills my heart with sorrow

Development of Duke 3d is also slowing down recently

[nicram_kl]

Well its true there is not much trafic around here. I'm still working on my model but cant get over some isues. Reacently my 3ds max stared to act weird and I cant get to do anything.I think I will make a format after that I will concentrate on simple models without animations so hopefully the project will go on.

[hightreason]

Forums generally slow down at this time of year.
But i do wish that all this sort of stuff wouldnt, i hope that one day SW will have all the same sort of things that Duke 3D has got (such as the HRP and Duke Plus - but for SW) obviously the point of threads like this is for people do be developing things like that. If it doesnt speed up after christmas id be very surprised.

[motionblur]

@blendercon: could you please also bake in ambient occlusion into your textures?
I asume you use blender so it's not that difficult to do but it can make a huge difference

@nicram_kl:
Your hand models seem like quite a lot of work so far. Actually they sem to go in the right direction but could you please try to get the proportions a little more right? unfortunately Hands are something we se everyday and thus notice errors very quick.
I'd say the fingers seem too long and too thick - also the palm of the hand seems to me to be too plain. Especially in the lower thumb area.

Otherwise good work. Kep it up. Don't let this thread die ^^

[nicram_kl]

About the hands :Thanks for feedback !!! I will improve them when I will be able to get them ingame - I just have no clue how to do it or what can be wrong.I will focus now on simple models without animations and when get more patience will try again with hands.

[Blendercon]

I did my best.
I wish that it helps me because I made very ugly textures I know, and I need advice at annimations of Mesch, and export MD3 wich Blender.

[Kennedy]

Here's a shuriken model, not skinned.

[Blendercon]

Okay, thanks Kennedy!

[Blendercon]

But your shuriken is vertical, and not horizontal.
shuriken.PNG

A new shuriken horizontal (+) a texture.
shuriken.zip

[Kennedy]

The orientation can probably be changed using the defs, But my knowledge of coding them is non existent.

[Blendercon]

I do not even know if we can do this.
It can change the size but the direction of axes X Y Z ... : confused:
Thank you very much for your model, I will when I encode time if you want.

[Kennedy]

The hard part will probably be coding them so that they spin while flying at enemies. That's partly why I had the orientation that way. In the original pickups there is a stack of shuriken but I don't know if you can put more than one model in a sprite.

[Hendricks266]

Copy and paste the shuriken model in the same scene, arrange them, then export it.

[Kennedy]

I was hoping that there was some way to do it using the code (con or def files?)

[Blendercon]

Bah for Shuriken, you must turn in a 3D modeler (eg 10 frames to turn the shuriken to 180 °), and code according to the organization of sprites (4 sprites for shuriken in flight and the latter remains fixed when the shurilen is planted in a wall,
I will:
Sprite#1 frame 1-3
Sprite#2 frame 4-6
Sprite#3 frame 7-9
Sprite#4 frame 10 )

You have understood my idea?

[Tea Monster]

You have to rotate the shuriken model in Blender (or insert your 3D Weapon of Choice) and then at each 45 degree angle or so, set a key frame every 2 or 4 frames. Then export the MD3 and define in the defs.

Off you go!

[hightreason]

Wow, this thread isn't 100% dead yet then.
I wish i could do models - if i could i would help, but even when i do, they just suck or skin wrong or have high poly count.
Hmm, i guess i could try some of the simpler models? - like items and stuff?
I might give that a go soon, im not promising anything though, as i have other things lined up right now.

[Mr.Fibbles]

It is best to practice on something practical. I got started in the Duke HRP with making the bottles in the game and people helped with the skins (as well as ideas for the bottles).
Don't be shy about asking for suggestions to improve the model or skin. Share your progress and at least I will drop by periodically to offer help as I am able.

[Kennedy]

The original shuriken from the game consist of 4 frames, rotating 22.5 degrees between each. Unfortunately SW may not have all the codes that are available for the Duke3D high res project. It may be possible to to give the model 4 frames of animation with each frame rotating 22.5 degrees but a separate model will probably be needed for the pickups.

[nicram_kl]

Don't worry guys I am sill on the job but reacently exams,other side projects and things get in my way.

[Kennedy]

Here's a model for the stone garden lamp number 0442, maybe it could also be used for sprite 0549 as well. Unfortunately I was having trouble with Blender so the model is unskinned.

[Kennedy]

An updated copy of the coin with rudimentary animation.

[Phayzon]

Nice to see someones still working on SW

[Kennedy]

Well, there's some stuff going on at:
http://www.jonof.id.au/forum/index.php?board=13.0
But I'm to lazy to register for another forum.

[Kennedy]

Here is a model of the shuriken with 4 frames of animation. Unfortunately I could only rotate the frames by 45 degrees instead of the 22.5 that would have been best. If somebody could do the remaining 22.5 degree angles I would be very thankful.

[ProAsm]

Great stuff on the shuriken, but can you stick to the standard naming configuration like the coin - 1793_shuriken.md3 etc..
I don't get either to work though ?

[Kennedy]

Well, I originally ported the models using Misfit Model 3D from:
http://www.misfitcode.com/misfitmodel3d/
They both use frame animations.

I don't know anything about how to code them so they can actually appear in the game, But I can view them in MDview by Ken Silverman. What are you using to view the models?

[ProAsm]

Unzip current Sw_Hrp.zip
Unzip 2530_coin.zip and shuriken.zip to highres\sprites\props

In highres/sprites/props.def:

// Shuriken (1793) by Kennedy
model "highres/sprites/props/shuriken.md3" {
   scale 1.0
   skin { pal 0 file "highres/sprites/props/shuriken.PNG" }
   frame { name "idle" tile  1793 }
}

Gets error:
Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/props.def:148

In highres/sprites/props.def:

// Coin (2530)
model "highres/sprites/props/2530_coin.md3"
{
   scale 1.75
   skin { pal 0 file "highres/sprites/props/2530_coin.png" }
   frame { name "FRAME1" tile 2530 }
   frame { name "FRAME2" tile 2531 }
   frame { name "FRAME3" tile 2532 }
   frame { name "FRAME4" tile 2533 }
}

That's always been there and works great on previous coins but on yours gets error:
Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/props.def:156
Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/props.def:157
Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/props.def:158
Invalid frame name on line highres/sprites/props.def:159

[Kennedy]

The problems are probably with the animation I'm guessing, I'm still pretty new at this. I have no idea how to change the names of the animations so somebody else will likely have to do the finishing touches on these models.

EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it the problem may lie with the Misfit Model 3D program I used to do the animations.

[Kennedy]

Here is an updated version of the coin, tested to make sure it works! Let me know what you think, Next I go on to tackle the shuriken.

edit: Changed the model name from 2530_coin.md3 to 2530-coin.md3 but if you update the def lines it will work.

[Kennedy]

Argh, implementing the shuriken is tougher than I thought. Here is what I put in the def files:

// Shuriken (2066)
model "highres/sprites/props/2066-shuriken.md3"
{
scale 1
skin { pal 0 file "highres/sprites/props/2066-shuriken.png" }
frame { name "FRAME1" tile 2066 }
frame { name "FRAME2" tile 2067 }
frame { name "FRAME3" tile 2068 }
frame { name "FRAME4" tile 2069 }
}


The model consist of 5 frames. I would delete the last frame so there are only 4, but I don't know how.

[ProAsm]

Ok I first couldn't get it going but found you named it 2530-coin.md3 instead of 2530_coin.md3, anyways corrected that and it works but the coins lie flat on the ground like the originals and you cannot see both sides which is what the original complaint was.
Look in the current Hrp, they stand up and you can swim/walk around them.

** Edit **
Can you use the same naming with the shuriken else it screws up everything
Use underscore not hyphen

[Kennedy]

Well, the reason I chose that orientation for the coin is the user can use sprite 2530 for one face of the coin and 2532 for the reverse side of the coin. But in the future I'll remember to use underscore instead of hyphen.

I tried renaming the shuriken with an underscore, but still couldn't get them to show up.

[Kennedy]

Here is a new version of the old key 1765 that is mapped and has a temporary skin. If somebody who is better at art than I am could make a proper skin for it that would be wonderfull.

[marked]

Since this key when placed in mapster is blue, it will need the same def codes that the R/C car antennas needed to make the different colors used in the game. I need to go back to previous posts to remember how to proceed. Does anyone know offhand what colors are needed besides gold and silver and I think red? If I remember correctly I will have to make the different colored versions of the skin too. Not a problem if that is the case.

I just started messing around with that Misfit 3D program and the skin I messed with looks good in there but not sure about in the game. This is a first try and can be tweaked as needed.