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Old 04-26-2006, 02:57 PM   #41
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Re: Well the cat is out of the bag....
If worse comes to worse, just go with a general 2006 release... That's all there really is to it...
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:59 PM   #42
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But fear not. All will be well. You'll enjoy it.
Yeah, you should know... I bet you've tried the game several times by now... :tinyted

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Old 04-26-2006, 03:43 PM   #43
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Coolness. Lets hope the demo comes sooner.
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Old 04-26-2006, 04:38 PM   #44
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Yeah, you should know... I bet you've tried the game several times by now...
Thanks for the reminder. I need to play again.
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:01 PM   #45
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Thanks for the reminder. I need to play again.
Ha! (sorry Micki, that was pretty funny )
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:05 PM   #46
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Re: Well the cat is out of the bag....
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Thanks for the reminder. I need to play again.
Well, there it is. He's playing it yet again, must be a completely badass game as much as he plays it. Even if it is for testing purposes.
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:09 PM   #47
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Are you also playing DNF often? Oh, you!
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:30 PM   #48
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Hey Joe, since you play Prey so often, what do you think about the replay value for this game ? Do opponents come out from the same position every time if you re-play the level, like the boring Doom 3, or the opponent behave differently and more intelligently like Far Cry ? Also what do you think of the story element ? Does it have a solid story that slowly unfolds as the game progresses , like FarCry or Return To Castle Wolfenstein ?
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:48 PM   #49
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Do opponents come out from the same position every time if you re-play the level, like the boring Doom 3, or the opponent behave differently and more intelligently like Far Cry ?
I hope its NOT like doom 3 in terms of reply value sense doom 3 had none...
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:07 PM   #50
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Does it have a solid story that slowly unfolds as the game progresses , like FarCry or Return To Castle Wolfenstein ?
RTCW had a solid story? I must have missed that....
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:43 PM   #51
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RTCW had a solid story? I must have missed that....
Well it had a story much better then some games with which many of us had high expectations such as Doom 3 or Quake 4 or Unreal 2. What was good in RTCW was that the story slowly unfolded and the inbetween sub-missions overall matched the entire story line. So you shift from one sub-mission to another without loosing the entire plot cause the sub-missions fitted nicely together. Other then very few rare games such as Clive Barker's Undying, or RTCW, or FarCry I havent came across any other FPS game that managed to do that for me. All games have basically one line stories. Eg :

Undying -> Rescue your friend from the curse of the Covenant family.
RTCW -> Infiltrate Castle Wolfenstein to investigate and destroy the diabolical occult plans.
FarCry -> Rescue a girl and destroy the mutant species from spreading to the world.

Even Prey's story line can be put in one line from what I gather from the high res trailer movie -> Destroy the aliens who are having us human beigns as prey with help of some of spiritual ancestorial power.

What matters is how the sub missions fit in nicely in the overall plot. So how the story unfolds in sub-mission is a real important thing.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:47 PM   #52
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I hope its NOT like doom 3 in terms of reply value sense doom 3 had none...
Why do people grant replay value as very important? The movies have by that means zero review value. Yet many people review them.

If the game is cool then you replay it because of that. All those 'the game each time is different' more like a gimmick to me. If you want to play another game, then play another, don't say that the game sucks because it offers you same experience every time.

Doom3-type appearance of the enemies was necessary to the horror feeling of the game. Creators want this enemy come out exactly at this time for the emotional effect.

I agree that it's cool to have variable gameplay each time, but it's because I want a different feeling in the same appearance, thus I want every time a different game. But I don't want to let down the game only because it's not providing me with this opportunity. Add-ons and mods may provide that. So why bother?
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:06 PM   #53
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Why do people grant replay value as very important? The movies have by that means zero review value. Yet many people review them.
Movies doesnt have direct user interactivity, games does have. So we want the replay value.

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If the game is cool then you replay it because of that. All those 'the game each time is different' more like a gimmick to me....
My friend, have you played Far Cry ?

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Doom3-type appearance of the enemies was necessary to the horror feeling of the game. Creators want this enemy come out exactly at this time for the emotional effect.
In FarCry, the enemies start in the same position waiting for you, but once they sence you, they adapt different tactics, the best way to take you down.You can let the enemy come out in various ways and yet satisfy the emotional requirement if you give the enemy enough AI.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:12 PM   #54
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But it doesn't matter to me the first time of playing.

And I said that it's good but no way I'll be complaining if the game don't have it.
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Old 04-26-2006, 09:48 PM   #55
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Ahh, crap. July? Any one know the UK/PEGI ratings.
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:20 PM   #56
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Undying -> Rescue your friend from the curse of the Covenant family.
RTCW -> Infiltrate Castle Wolfenstein to investigate and destroy the diabolical occult plans.
FarCry -> Rescue a girl and destroy the mutant species from spreading to the world.

Even Prey's story line can be put in one line from what I gather from the high res trailer movie -> Destroy the aliens who are having us human beigns as prey with help of some of spiritual ancestorial power.

What matters is how the sub missions fit in nicely in the overall plot. So how the story unfolds in sub-mission is a real important thing.
Which is why those one liners aren't stories but synopses to a story. Only in most games, the synopses is it. The missions within don't do more than echo it, which doesn't make for a good story. FarCry(as far as I played) was guilty of this. Didn't play RTCW and Undying was so much better that it was scary.

Undying gave the lead a past whose resolution was reflected in his quest. It also gave him a destiny which involved time travelling to give him the means to fight the evil that consumes his friend's family, house and property. All told in neat little cutscenes with twists and turns to make a superb storytelling experience.

Undying is the horror/scary game to beat. Doom 3 imo wasn't up to that task. Let's see if Prey does it.

It would be good for the game to be compared to Undying and critically-acclaimed action horror titles that are not Doom 3.
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:48 AM   #57
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But fear not. All will be well. You'll enjoy it.
The game will be good because Joe says so. (I hope he is right. )
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Old 04-27-2006, 02:09 AM   #58
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Thanks for the reminder. I need to play again.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:01 AM   #59
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:07 AM   #60
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What I find amusing about all of this is that it's now all over gaming sites stated to be true, but 3DR and HH haven't said a word.
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:33 AM   #61
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Prey will be finished when it is finished - Done when its done.

I guess a release date will be announced when Prey goes gold.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:05 AM   #62
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I think 10 July it's the true date.
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:31 AM   #63
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July release date....awesome. So does this means the system requirements have been finalized or what?
 
Old 04-27-2006, 07:41 AM   #64
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It's not official until either 3DR or HH say it is. So no, there are no finalized sys reqs. But if you stick to Quake 4's requirements you are in the correct area
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:43 AM   #65
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Technically, we STILL don't have a release date. It's still "When it's done." Until 3DR or Human Head give a firm date, don't believe any release date you read. It's all speculation.

I'd say someone from HH said something about it. I'll wait till I hear from GB or the HH guys b4 I agree with the release dates.. I would love to have a demo soon so to help polish the game .
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:54 AM   #66
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What I find amusing about all of this is that it's now all over gaming sites stated to be true, but 3DR and HH haven't said a word.
The more amusing(or irritating) I find that on some sites this news goes as "Prey is delayed again".
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Old 04-27-2006, 10:42 AM   #67
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Old 04-27-2006, 11:13 AM   #68
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Undying is the horror/scary game to beat. Doom 3 imo wasn't up to that task. Let's see if Prey does it.
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I dont think Prey will be as scary as Undying as Undying has a slow but tremendous story build up. Prey IMHO will be a much faster game with a faster story line and based on a more shoot'em approach then Undying. Undying didnt have a continuous shoot'em approach. For me, what I think, prey will be a great combination combining emotional effects of two great games --> Undying + Painkiller.

More precisely horror effects of Undying + Shoot'em up effect of Painkiller.

With a great story line which it seems to have, if it can do the above, it will be a legend of a game IMHO.
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Old 04-27-2006, 12:39 PM   #69
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Reported on Gamespot and confirmed by publisher 2k games, Prey's official release date is:

July 10th, 2006.

Let the floodgates begin.

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Old 04-27-2006, 01:01 PM   #70
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Reported on Gamespot and confirmed by publisher 2k games, Prey's official release date is:

July 10th, 2006.
Not really.

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Technically, we STILL don't have a release date. It's still "When it's done." Until 3DR or Human Head give a firm date, don't believe any release date you read. It's all speculation.
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:03 PM   #71
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Reported on Gamespot and confirmed by publisher 2k games, Prey's official release date is:

July 10th, 2006.

Let the floodgates begin.

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Bah. I want it now.
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:12 PM   #72
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Bah. I want it now.
Don't say that again, Joe will show up and tell us that he is going to play it right now!
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:40 PM   #73
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FYI, I renamed this thread from "Cat's out of the bag" to "Release Date" to stop people from posting multiple threads on the same thing.
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Old 04-27-2006, 02:05 PM   #74
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Am I the only person here that actually enjoys Doom 3 and it's expansion? Odd.

Anyways, there seems to be a bit of a conflict with release dates. 2K Games say that the game is to be released around June while the folks at Human Heads and 3D Realms claim that it'll be done "when it's done". This is gonna cause alot of confusion, as well as unnecessary anger vented towards both HH and 3D Realms when the game isn't released on July 10th.
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Old 04-27-2006, 02:17 PM   #75
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Am I the only person here that actually enjoys Doom 3 and it's expansion? Odd.
Nope, Doom 3 is the only doom game I liked.
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Old 04-27-2006, 02:33 PM   #76
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Nope, Doom 3 is the only doom game I liked.
I think Doom 3 and the Expansion was really cool...

Anyways, if that release in July isn't correct or official, i'm sure we're gonna know when E3 begins... I expect they would mention the release there...
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:24 PM   #77
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Am I the only person here that actually enjoys Doom 3 and it's expansion? Odd.

Anyways, there seems to be a bit of a conflict with release dates. 2K Games say that the game is to be released around June while the folks at Human Heads and 3D Realms claim that it'll be done "when it's done". This is gonna cause alot of confusion, as well as unnecessary anger vented towards both HH and 3D Realms when the game isn't released on July 10th.

First off, Doom 3 is awesome. People had ungodly high expectations for the game, so there was no way some people would be happy with Doom 3.

And, there is no real conflict with a release date. The whole release stance has always been "WID", and 2K has been quoted on saying July not June. So there is no real date as of yet.
And I don't see how gamer sare gonna get upset or jadded towards HH or 3DR. Any fan of 3D Realms know's how to wait for a game And most real gamers know not to trust a release date until they here two magic words.

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Old 04-27-2006, 03:33 PM   #78
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First off, Doom 3 is awesome. People had ungodly high expectations for the game, so there was no way some people would be happy with Doom 3.
Agreed. Doom is my fav old fps, so even I had some big expectations for 3. However I love it, the atmosphere and whole experience was amazing....especially since it was *the* first next gen game I played on my new PC.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:08 PM   #79
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Am I the only person here that actually enjoys Doom 3 and it's expansion? Odd.
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Doom 3 is technically superior and did bring new tech for the next gen games such as Prey and other games to come. But the game is "repititively" boring cause its the same thing, move around in the absolute same looking dark corridors and the moment you touch an armour or box of shells, somehting will jump at you. Its like id software built a big map of a dark building, and we roam around in the same building, only different parts of it, in different levels. Infact other then the level "Hell" which only looks a "non-building" map, rest of the game is just a dark building. Where is the variation ? Atleast Quake 4 had different looking maps to play in. If you want to play a realy scary game, try "Clive Barker's Undying" . And if you only want to shoot at monsters, hoards and hords of them, with atleast 80 different monster species, try "Painkiller Gold Edition" . I believe Painkiller is the real successor of Doom line of games, not Doom 3.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:28 PM   #80
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Ahhh yes, Clive Barker's Undying. Now *THERE* is an excelent game! Too bad they canned the sequel due to insufficent sales of the first one. Man, talk about a sleeper hit.

Anyways, on Shack News they told of the preorder info and they also mentioned that Prey would be released sometime in July. But I'm still going to go with 3D Realms's and HH's 'When it's Done'.
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