Let it be

shovelcat · 01-05-2010, 02:53 PM

I think Duke Nukem Forever is a Master Piece and is'nt for the money they are making it but to gift to all gamers, a gift. Something we never saw in the video game scene. The want to let us play a game made by passion and real love of gamming. They want to let us touch the sky by playing a game with every element an hardcore or a new gamer can dream of. The want to realise our dream and play an old school game, elaborate in a small amouth of time, with the highest technolgy, to let us know which games is perfect. Created by old gamers, the kind of gamer that dont understand why a game is created with restriction.

Why an old guy can write a book an take 20 years of is life to complete it and not the game creator ? Why people are not bitchin the writer, tellin' about date to deliver is book because that not make sense to take 20 years? Sure ,the distributor is always ready to sell books and make money. They need it as fast as possible to know if they will make extra money this week because they want a 55' Yatch.

But a couple of friends in a garage dreaming of a game, brainstorming with enthousiat . Seeing what a PC game must be in there head. A collective orgasme made by ideas and created with lines codes. They dont want to be stop.

The technology was the limit. Now, we are at the top of the PC can give to us... Tomorow.. we will in the game... maybe.. but they will probably dont name it a pc.. maybe a 3d environment computer of something more impressive for the marketing... but the pc got is last hours.

Its not a pop game create by a buisness man who see money when then can. Easy, cheap, fast... Money money come to me. They got respect and ethics about a game can be.

Who set the amout of time needed to release a game ? God tell in the bible... you will not take more than 10 years to develope a game or the hell will come on earth ? Prey who you want. You will get a game made by gamers.

Shovelcat.

(English is my second langage) i writed the text for let me sleep tonight.

cya

Kyphros · 01-05-2010, 03:04 PM

There's a piece of truth into this. A developer must have all the time he wants to make a game.
But this is an exception. In our case, the dev said that the game would be released at some day and it didn't happen. The he did this again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again ...
That's why the duke fans are so angry. Not because they had to wait for long, but because 3DR said it would be short.

wayskobfssae · 01-05-2010, 04:14 PM

Whisper words of wisdom.

Gabriel · 01-05-2010, 04:40 PM

What you say seems not to fit to the actual situation ...

First ... passion in a garage ... 3D Realms is not a garage ! ... they have computers, cool nuke logo on the floor and high quality coke machines ! ...

Second ... it's not passion anymore that has led them to delay ... George told himself what the matter was ... they were playing WoW instead of working on DN4E ...

Third ... an old man writing a book is at least wise enough not to tell any release date

Fourth ... a book doesn't need to switch graphix engines constantly ...

Fith ... could you please explain to me where the technology was the limit in the dev of DN4E?? Godamnit dude, the ******* problem was that is was taking so long that the engine of DN4E was always getting outdated ! ... you sure you've read what's told inside of this forum? seems like you're talking about a different game or different game producter !

Sixth ... what the **** as god or the holy bible to do in this affair? ... no ones never said a game should take some amount or time or not ... the problem is that they announced the game, several times, because of their greed, and when it was time for delivery, oh ! the game was not finished yet ! "lots of mistakes" "lessons to learn" "lots of WoW" ... Damn, stop telling stupid things about holy bible, game psychology or anything else (if you want talk psychology, you can still post on the post talking about commitments, it's a tissue of stupidy i'm sure you would be eased to comment !)

Seventh, damn, why trying to find excuses to 3D Realms? They simply failed because of their lazyness and greed, ... that's all ... i work for a well know developper and it takes half the time it took 3DR to get out a blockbuster game ! ...

Imagine a second that you're 5 yo, your parents tell you christmas day is the next day ... then they say to you, "sorry son, this cannot be done this year, maybe next year" ... imagine now you've been trough such situation 13 times ... now you know what it has done to the fan community to have such shit to overcome !

TripleH · 01-05-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabriel

What you say seems not to fit to the actual situation ...

First ... passion in a garage ... 3D Realms is not a garage ! ... they have computers, cool nuke logo on the floor and high quality coke machines ! ...

Second ... it's not passion anymore that has led them to delay ... George told himself what the matter was ... they were playing WoW instead of working on DN4E ...

Third ... an old man writing a book is at least wise enough not to tell any release date

Fourth ... a book doesn't need to switch graphix engines constantly ...

Fith ... could you please explain to me where the technology was the limit in the dev of DN4E?? Godamnit dude, the ******* problem was that is was taking so long that the engine of DN4E was always getting outdated ! ... you sure you've read what's told inside of this forum? seems like you're talking about a different game or different game producter !

Sixth ... what the **** as god or the holy bible to do in this affair? ... no ones never said a game should take some amount or time or not ... the problem is that they announced the game, several times, because of their greed, and when it was time for delivery, oh ! the game was not finished yet ! "lots of mistakes" "lessons to learn" "lots of WoW" ... Damn, stop telling stupid things about holy bible, game psychology or anything else (if you want talk psychology, you can still post on the post talking about commitments, it's a tissue of stupidy i'm sure you would be eased to comment !)

Seventh, damn, why trying to find excuses to 3D Realms? They simply failed because of their lazyness and greed, ... that's all ... i work for a well know developper and it takes half the time it took 3DR to get out a blockbuster game ! ...

Imagine a second that you're 5 yo, your parents tell you christmas day is the next day ... then they say to you, "sorry son, this cannot be done this year, maybe next year" ... imagine now you've been trough such situation 13 times ... now you know what it has done to the fan community to have such shit to overcome !

it is sad but you are right

ManhattanProject · 01-05-2010, 07:34 PM

When I find myself in times of trouble, mother mary comes to me.....

Gabriel · 01-05-2010, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ManhattanProject

When I find myself in times of trouble, mother mary comes to me.....

Speaking words of "whinz is done" ... ahahah

marioman360 · 01-08-2010, 03:31 PM

And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree,

Kray · 01-08-2010, 03:46 PM

there will be an answer, let it be.
For though they may be parted there is still a chance that they will see

Jabba the Hutt · 01-08-2010, 05:15 PM

No, don't let it behe, don't let it be!

fast-1 · 01-08-2010, 05:22 PM

Let it be is a song by the Beatles right or Paul McCartney.

They made there own stuff great for everyone not like pop music

Sabarasa · 01-08-2010, 07:25 PM

Combo breaker anyone?

ZuljinRaynor · 01-08-2010, 07:50 PM

Imagine there's no DNF.
It's easy if you try.

fast-1 · 01-08-2010, 08:06 PM

Imagine was a song by John lennon.

You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

ZuljinRaynor · 01-08-2010, 08:21 PM

And John Lennon was a Beatle. OMG REFERENCE!!!!!

Destructor · 01-08-2010, 09:09 PM

I don't understand why some people regard 3D Realms as saintly in stature. They weren't taking so long to create "the perfect game", they took so long due to inefficiences cause by poor project management and possibly even a lack of vision or idea of what they really wanted to create. True, they are about high polish but I don't think they even reached the stage of polishing, except maybe near the end when things went belly up.

On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that at times the whole office was just busy playing WoW. I think George likes to give the impression that he lives a sort of rockstar lifestyle when in actual fact he's or was a hard worker who was trying diligently to make a hit.

Gabriel · 01-08-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fast-1

Let it be is a song by the Beatles right or Paul McCartney.

They made there own stuff great for everyone not like pop music

You sure it was from the beatles ... i've always tough it was from Zakk Wylde ...

---------- Post added at 05:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:27 AM ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destructor

I don't understand why some people regard 3D Realms as saintly in stature. They weren't taking so long to create "the perfect game", they took so long due to inefficiences cause by poor project management and possibly even a lack of vision or idea of what they really wanted to create. True, they are about high polish but I don't think they even reached the stage of polishing, except maybe near the end when things went belly up.

On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that at times the whole office was just busy playing WoW. I think George likes to give the impression that he lives a sort of rockstar lifestyle when in actual fact he's or was a hard worker who was trying diligently to make a hit.

They were actually playing WoW, it's a fact ...

And i think i know what they've been polishing for 13 years .... if you see what i mean ...

terrannova · 01-09-2010, 11:02 PM

As long as it plays like Duke Nukem 3D and just has improved graphics, it will be a hit.

I doubt the length of the game will surpass Duke 3D though, how do you make a game with 4 episodes these days?

Gabriel · 01-09-2010, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrannova

As long as it plays like Duke Nukem 3D and just has improved graphics, it will be a hit.

I doubt the length of the game will surpass Duke 3D though, how do you make a game with 4 episodes these days?

mmmhh dudes, the game we make in here last at least 2 to 3 hours minimum ... Duke Nukem was intended to last 30 to 45 min ... as it was a normal time for 1990's ...

So i really hope the game will be longer ahaha

Kyphros · 01-10-2010, 04:39 AM

A Dragon Age-size would be perfect. Lol.

"Over 80 hours of intensive alien ass kicking"
I imagine that on the DN4E boxes...

Gabriel · 01-10-2010, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyphros

A Dragon Age-size would be perfect. Lol.

"Over 80 hours of intensive alien ass kicking"
I imagine that on the DN4E boxes...

Sweet dreams ... that will never happen

fast-1 · 01-10-2010, 03:10 PM

Lost the quote to your post Gabe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_It_Be_%28song%29

Linkage .

Duke's New Chainsaw · 01-10-2010, 04:23 PM

OMG, Fast! You may be onto something... Gabriel Newell!

Why didn't I see it before...

fast-1 · 01-10-2010, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duke's New Chainsaw

OMG, Fast! You may be onto something... Gabriel Newell!

Why didn't I see it before...

That's the idea he's here.

zwieback · 01-10-2010, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Seventh, damn, why trying to find excuses to 3D Realms? They simply failed because of their lazyness and greed, ... that's all ... i work for a well know developper and it takes half the time it took 3DR to get out a blockbuster game ! ...

sorry that's just a bunch of no sense

01-05-2010, 02:53 PM	#1
shovelcat	Let it be I think Duke Nukem Forever is a Master Piece and is'nt for the money they are making it but to gift to all gamers, a gift. Something we never saw in the video game scene. The want to let us play a game made by passion and real love of gamming. They want to let us touch the sky by playing a game with every element an hardcore or a new gamer can dream of. The want to realise our dream and play an old school game, elaborate in a small amouth of time, with the highest technolgy, to let us know which games is perfect. Created by old gamers, the kind of gamer that dont understand why a game is created with restriction. Why an old guy can write a book an take 20 years of is life to complete it and not the game creator ? Why people are not bitchin the writer, tellin' about date to deliver is book because that not make sense to take 20 years? Sure ,the distributor is always ready to sell books and make money. They need it as fast as possible to know if they will make extra money this week because they want a 55' Yatch. But a couple of friends in a garage dreaming of a game, brainstorming with enthousiat . Seeing what a PC game must be in there head. A collective orgasme made by ideas and created with lines codes. They dont want to be stop. The technology was the limit. Now, we are at the top of the PC can give to us... Tomorow.. we will in the game... maybe.. but they will probably dont name it a pc.. maybe a 3d environment computer of something more impressive for the marketing... but the pc got is last hours. Its not a pop game create by a buisness man who see money when then can. Easy, cheap, fast... Money money come to me. They got respect and ethics about a game can be. Who set the amout of time needed to release a game ? God tell in the bible... you will not take more than 10 years to develope a game or the hell will come on earth ? Prey who you want. You will get a game made by gamers. Shovelcat. (English is my second langage) i writed the text for let me sleep tonight. cya

01-05-2010, 03:04 PM	#2
Kyphros	Re: Let it be There's a piece of truth into this. A developer must have all the time he wants to make a game. But this is an exception. In our case, the dev said that the game would be released at some day and it didn't happen. The he did this again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again ... That's why the duke fans are so angry. Not because they had to wait for long, but because 3DR said it would be short.

01-05-2010, 04:14 PM	#3
wayskobfssae	Re: Let it be Whisper words of wisdom. __________________ "A Nightingale in a Golden Cage... that's me locked inside Reality's Maze" -- Nightwish

01-05-2010, 04:40 PM	#4
Gabriel	Re: Let it be What you say seems not to fit to the actual situation ... First ... passion in a garage ... 3D Realms is not a garage ! ... they have computers, cool nuke logo on the floor and high quality coke machines ! ... Second ... it's not passion anymore that has led them to delay ... George told himself what the matter was ... they were playing WoW instead of working on DN4E ... Third ... an old man writing a book is at least wise enough not to tell any release date Fourth ... a book doesn't need to switch graphix engines constantly ... Fith ... could you please explain to me where the technology was the limit in the dev of DN4E?? Godamnit dude, the ***** problem was that is was taking so long that the engine of DN4E was always getting outdated ! ... you sure you've read what's told inside of this forum? seems like you're talking about a different game or different game producter ! Sixth ... what the ** as god or the holy bible to do in this affair? ... no ones never said a game should take some amount or time or not ... the problem is that they announced the game, several times, because of their greed, and when it was time for delivery, oh ! the game was not finished yet ! "lots of mistakes" "lessons to learn" "lots of WoW" ... Damn, stop telling stupid things about holy bible, game psychology or anything else (if you want talk psychology, you can still post on the post talking about commitments, it's a tissue of stupidy i'm sure you would be eased to comment !) Seventh, damn, why trying to find excuses to 3D Realms? They simply failed because of their lazyness and greed, ... that's all ... i work for a well know developper and it takes half the time it took 3DR to get out a blockbuster game ! ... Imagine a second that you're 5 yo, your parents tell you christmas day is the next day ... then they say to you, "sorry son, this cannot be done this year, maybe next year" ... imagine now you've been trough such situation 13 times ... now you know what it has done to the fan community to have such shit to overcome !

01-05-2010, 07:34 PM	#6
ManhattanProject	Re: Let it be When I find myself in times of trouble, mother mary comes to me..... __________________ ALL YOUR DUKE ARE BELONG TO US.

01-08-2010, 03:31 PM	#8
marioman360	Re: Let it be And when the broken hearted people living in the world agree, __________________ Please forgive the stupid username.

01-08-2010, 03:46 PM	#9
Kray	Re: Let it be there will be an answer, let it be. For though they may be parted there is still a chance that they will see __________________ http://card.mygamercard.net/Rhaxx.png

01-08-2010, 05:15 PM	#10
Jabba the Hutt	Re: Let it be No, don't let it behe, don't let it be! __________________ "Double the gun, double the fun!" Serious Sam

01-08-2010, 05:22 PM	#11
fast-1	Re: Let it be Let it be is a song by the Beatles right or Paul McCartney. They made there own stuff great for everyone not like pop music __________________ Ha what a day.:D

01-08-2010, 07:25 PM	#12
Sabarasa	Re: Let it be Combo breaker anyone?

01-08-2010, 07:50 PM	#13
ZuljinRaynor	Re: Let it be Imagine there's no DNF. It's easy if you try. __________________ My vision is augmented.

01-08-2010, 08:06 PM	#14
fast-1	Re: Let it be Imagine was a song by John lennon. You may say that I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one __________________ Ha what a day.:D

01-08-2010, 08:21 PM	#15
ZuljinRaynor	Re: Let it be And John Lennon was a Beatle. OMG REFERENCE!!!!! __________________ My vision is augmented.

01-08-2010, 09:09 PM	#16
Destructor	Re: Let it be I don't understand why some people regard 3D Realms as saintly in stature. They weren't taking so long to create "the perfect game", they took so long due to inefficiences cause by poor project management and possibly even a lack of vision or idea of what they really wanted to create. True, they are about high polish but I don't think they even reached the stage of polishing, except maybe near the end when things went belly up. On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that at times the whole office was just busy playing WoW. I think George likes to give the impression that he lives a sort of rockstar lifestyle when in actual fact he's or was a hard worker who was trying diligently to make a hit. __________________ Patience above perfection. Destruction above stupid puzzles.

01-09-2010, 11:02 PM	#18
terrannova	Re: Let it be As long as it plays like Duke Nukem 3D and just has improved graphics, it will be a hit. I doubt the length of the game will surpass Duke 3D though, how do you make a game with 4 episodes these days?

01-10-2010, 04:39 AM	#20
Kyphros	Re: Let it be A Dragon Age-size would be perfect. Lol. "Over 80 hours of intensive alien ass kicking" I imagine that on the DN4E boxes...

01-10-2010, 03:10 PM	#22
fast-1	Re: Let it be Lost the quote to your post Gabe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_It_Be_%28song%29 Linkage . __________________ Ha what a day.:D

01-10-2010, 04:23 PM	#23
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Let it be OMG, Fast! You may be onto something... Gabriel Newell! Why didn't I see it before... __________________ The Great Communicator!