Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice - Page 6

Emultra · 03-09-2009, 01:34 PM

Isn't voice work one of the very last things to be put into a game?

Kristian Joensen · 03-09-2009, 01:36 PM

Yes it is.

helious · 03-09-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristian Joensen

Yes it is.

And still, voice is a very great deal of work, 3-5 months at least with implementation, and considering the work speed of 3Drealms, lets say 7-8...

Im not bashing here..

Most people who arent into game development, simply dont realise how long it actually takes to voiceover an entire game, plus all the other unfinished work that remains to be done.

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Originally Posted by Psyrgery

Betting for DNF not being released this year, is like betting for the sun being destroyed tomorrow.

So naive.... Its almost sad..

Where have you been the past 10 years?
Or do you still think we are in 1998, where the promised release date was?

Because 3Drealms, tend to keep what they promise, release wise. We all know that, and shall therefore never doubt...

Psyrgery · 03-09-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by helious

So naive.... Its almost sad..

Where have you been the past 10 years?

Been waitin' for the damn game!

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Originally Posted by helious

And still, voice is a very great deal of work, 3-5 months at least with implementation, and considering the work speed of 3Drealms, lets say 7-8...

Im not bashing here..

Well, you could speed up the process by skipping all the remaining actors voices but Duke and replace them by loquendo voices!

Mr.Fibbles · 03-09-2009, 02:15 PM

haven't you guys heard? They are going to reuse all the sounds from Duke3D.

although, seriously, that would be a quick and easy (and dirty) way to get a lot of stuff done (providing that the original high quality stuff still is around). Also, who is to say that none of the sounds from the previous versions exist? Those trailers we saw in 98 and 01 had some sounds etc. Some voice work may have been done back then...and it could still be used today.
Just saying.

Psyrgery · 03-09-2009, 02:23 PM

I wouldn't count on it Fibbles. They they have scrapped all material from prevoius builds.

Maybe not, if we reffer to the sounds and voices, but as I said, I wouldn't count on it.

George (and possibly Joe) is the only one here knowing that answer. And I can't see him around

Mr.Fibbles · 03-09-2009, 02:54 PM

I don't remember them saying they scrapped *everything* from previous builds, they just said to assume they don't/never existed.
That is, if you hear a line from the trailers in 98/01 assume it was remade since then.

Malgon · 03-10-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RuskiSnajper.

From the first point i saw the latest Duke Nukem Forever trailer , i noticed the Duke looks really like ... guess who , ... Bruce Willis , or something similar , cause he had glasses on

Hiring the megastar Bruce Willis to do all the voiceover and taunts , would be freaking

A:::::W::::E:::::S:::::O:::::M:::::E

Benefits:

For Players: even more legendary experience.

For 3D Realms: 15+ million sales milestone is guaranteed. (of course if enough commercials too, and i say 15m cause i never saw other PC game beat it noticeably, it might be even higher at the end)

I think it can be done, 3D Realms i know your excited about this idea i can feel it.

EDIT: forget it , we've sorted this issue out

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fibbles

Jon St. John is THE voice of Duke Nukem.

What he said.

KO Gilligan · 03-10-2009, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Fibbles

haven't you guys heard? They are going to reuse all the sounds from Duke3D.

although, seriously, that would be a quick and easy (and dirty) way to get a lot of stuff done (providing that the original high quality stuff still is around). Also, who is to say that none of the sounds from the previous versions exist? Those trailers we saw in 98 and 01 had some sounds etc. Some voice work may have been done back then...and it could still be used today.
Just saying.

I'd have no problem with them using a pile of the original voice bites or whatever you call them, and even a few of the sound effects in the environment. I'd like it

Altered Reality · 03-10-2009, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Psyrgery

Betting for DNF not being released this year, is like betting for the sun NOT being destroyed tomorrow.

Did you mean this?

Monkey Butler · 03-10-2009, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by helious

And still, voice is a very great deal of work, 3-5 months at least with implementation, and considering the work speed of 3Drealms, lets say 7-8...

I'm not sure I believe that. Got link?

Emultra · 03-10-2009, 11:41 AM

3-5 months? Even Deus Ex' voiceovers probably got done in a couple of weeks at most. DN3D 2 days maybe? The recording, that is.

glade86 · 03-10-2009, 12:51 PM

i think only he can do the voice, it has to be him

Desert-EvilDuke · 03-15-2009, 04:26 AM

recording doesnt take THAT long. but a while. U could record a whole level's worth of dialouge in a day.

Im no pro at this but I know its not THAT long.

And If Jon does not do the voice Im out. But 3DR would be absolutely stupid not to put Jon's voice in. He is the King baby!

Should check out his website. His theme tune KICKS ASS! I reload the page to enjoy it again.
www.jsjprod.com
And to whoever made a bet about DNF coming out 2009. Your not the only one. I believe for some reason it is too.

JobivanHiob · 03-15-2009, 06:39 AM

I hope recording starts soon...I mean if 3DR is dealing with menu and HUD design, I would guess they are far enough advanced to begin with the voice work too.

WoodenSword · 03-15-2009, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by helious

Exactly. And thats what concerns me..

Last time, was not even that long ago.
And considering that 3Drealms want a lot of dialog, and story driven gameplay, it´ll be looong before we see anything CLOSE to a release date.

At some recent pictures from Georges Twitter they were even putting up Motion Capture Cameras, for the animation of the characters...

Ill buy anyone on the forum a copy of the game, if its released before Q4 2009

You got my word!

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Angilion · 03-15-2009, 04:39 PM

At what point will it become a question of whether Jon St. John is likely to live long enough to do the voice acting? How old is he now? 50? Life expectancy is low 70s for USA men, so will he see DNF released?

SpinX · 03-15-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Angilion

At what point will it become a question of whether Jon St. John is likely to live long enough to do the voice acting? How old is he now? 50? Life expectancy is low 70s for USA men, so will he see DNF released?

it will be tricky

Ironside · 03-15-2009, 06:54 PM

I think Jon deserves major bucks for doing the voice in DNF. He has commented on not getting much out of 3DR and this dont surprise me at all.

Emultra · 03-20-2009, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironside

I think Jon deserves major bucks for doing the voice in DNF. He has commented on not getting much out of 3DR and this dont surprise me at all.

Source?

Nimoy · 03-26-2009, 06:47 PM

Recording the dialog will probably be the quickest and easiest thing of all the development.

SpinX · 03-27-2009, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nimoy

Recording the dialog will probably be the quickest and easiest thing of all the development.

that is true, you have to be very bad to manage to **** that up

MusicallyInspired · 03-29-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Angilion

At what point will it become a question of whether Jon St. John is likely to live long enough to do the voice acting? How old is he now? 50? Life expectancy is low 70s for USA men, so will he see DNF released?

If you wanna go by that, will the developers themselves live long enough to get their own game released?

JobivanHiob · 04-27-2009, 08:25 AM

I hope I'm right that there isn't already a thread about voice acting in DNF.

Jon St. John will return for performing the Duke voice, thats a given I guess.

But whats up with other characters in the game, do they also get quality voices?! I mean in the 2001 trailer there was general Graves, strippers, Gus, EDF soldiers etc...I heard DNF will have a AAA-plot, so I wonder about this part. If there are new characters in the game by now with heavy voice acting, do they get enough effort in the dev cycle?!

ZuljinRaynor · 04-27-2009, 08:36 AM

Steve will be Duke in the NZ localization.

Steve · 04-27-2009, 08:36 AM

I hope they do get an effort. Voice acting is sometimes overlooked (can be due to budget restraints) or devs thinking it's okay to pump out sub quality voice acting.

Valve did an absolute wonderful job with Half Life 2, ep1 and ep2

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

Steve will be Duke in the NZ localization.

Shake it mate!

ZuljinRaynor · 04-27-2009, 08:38 AM

Personally, I thought Prey's voice acting was the best in an FPS. For an RPG I would pick Diablo 1.

Basically you need people that can become the character.

Steve · 04-27-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

Basically you need people that can become the character.

Indeed. The chick that played Alyx in Half Life 2 really got into it

ZuljinRaynor · 04-27-2009, 08:43 AM

She knew how to be annoying in EP2.

Steve · 04-27-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

She knew how to be annoying in EP2.

She was annoying, but the voice acting was great

Stevey Boy · 04-27-2009, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by helious

Exactly. And thats what concerns me..

Last time, was not even that long ago.
And considering that 3Drealms want a lot of dialog, and story driven gameplay, it´ll be looong before we see anything CLOSE to a release date.

At some recent pictures from Georges Twitter they were even putting up Motion Capture Cameras, for the animation of the characters...

Ill buy anyone on the forum a copy of the game, if its released before Q4 2009

You got my word!

I shall hold you to that

Monkey Butler · 04-27-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

Shake it mate!

I think you mean "Shake it, eh bro!"

Steve · 04-28-2009, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Monkey Butler

I think you mean "Shake it, eh bro!"

Depends where in NZ you live

Shake it mate!

I think 3DR will have damn good voice acting. 2001 trailer had it

Malgon · 04-28-2009, 02:36 AM

I'd be disappointed if the voice acting turned out to be average for all the supporting characters in the game. HL2 had suitable voice acting, so hopefully we get something along those lines for DNF.

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Originally Posted by Monkey Butler

I think you mean "Shake it, eh bro!"

Hehehe, that made me laugh.

03-09-2009, 01:34 PM	#201
Emultra	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice Isn't voice work one of the very last things to be put into a game?

03-09-2009, 01:36 PM	#202
Kristian Joensen	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice Yes it is. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript)

03-09-2009, 02:15 PM	#205
Mr.Fibbles	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice haven't you guys heard? They are going to reuse all the sounds from Duke3D. although, seriously, that would be a quick and easy (and dirty) way to get a lot of stuff done (providing that the original high quality stuff still is around). Also, who is to say that none of the sounds from the previous versions exist? Those trailers we saw in 98 and 01 had some sounds etc. Some voice work may have been done back then...and it could still be used today. Just saying. __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

03-09-2009, 02:23 PM	#206
Psyrgery	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice I wouldn't count on it Fibbles. They they have scrapped all material from prevoius builds. Maybe not, if we reffer to the sounds and voices, but as I said, I wouldn't count on it. George (and possibly Joe) is the only one here knowing that answer. And I can't see him around __________________ George Broussard: Two facts: We haven't said anything. This forum is still open.

03-09-2009, 02:54 PM	#207
Mr.Fibbles	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice I don't remember them saying they scrapped everything from previous builds, they just said to assume they don't/never existed. That is, if you hear a line from the trailers in 98/01 assume it was remade since then. __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

03-10-2009, 11:41 AM	#212
Emultra	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice 3-5 months? Even Deus Ex' voiceovers probably got done in a couple of weeks at most. DN3D 2 days maybe? The recording, that is.

03-10-2009, 12:51 PM	#213
glade86	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice i think only he can do the voice, it has to be him

03-15-2009, 04:26 AM	#214
Desert-EvilDuke	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice recording doesnt take THAT long. but a while. U could record a whole level's worth of dialouge in a day. Im no pro at this but I know its not THAT long. And If Jon does not do the voice Im out. But 3DR would be absolutely stupid not to put Jon's voice in. He is the King baby! Should check out his website. His theme tune KICKS ASS! I reload the page to enjoy it again. www.jsjprod.com And to whoever made a bet about DNF coming out 2009. Your not the only one. I believe for some reason it is too. __________________ ALWAYS BET ON DUKE...Even if he takes FOREVER

03-15-2009, 06:39 AM	#215
JobivanHiob	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice I hope recording starts soon...I mean if 3DR is dealing with menu and HUD design, I would guess they are far enough advanced to begin with the voice work too. __________________ Stay up to date with http://dukewatch.blogspot.com for the UNEXPECTED and PREPARE YOURSELF for SHOCK and AWESOME on Penny Arcade EXPO from September 3-5! Onebullit: "If DNF comes out in 2010 i will buy 2 copies and send you one." pjVgt regading DNF at PAX:"I would seriously shit my pants and pre-order three copies - one will be sent to Jobi"

03-15-2009, 04:39 PM	#217
Angilion	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice At what point will it become a question of whether Jon St. John is likely to live long enough to do the voice acting? How old is he now? 50? Life expectancy is low 70s for USA men, so will he see DNF released?

03-15-2009, 06:54 PM	#219
Ironside	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice I think Jon deserves major bucks for doing the voice in DNF. He has commented on not getting much out of 3DR and this dont surprise me at all.

03-26-2009, 06:47 PM	#221
Nimoy	Re: Question about Jon St. John / Duke's Voice Recording the dialog will probably be the quickest and easiest thing of all the development. __________________ The feeling is definitely there. It's a new morning in America... fresh, vital. The old cynicism is gone. We have faith in our leaders. We're optimistic as to what becomes of it all. It really boils down to our ability to accept. We don't need pessimism. There are no limits. We dont just want to survive, we want to succeed. - President of the USA, "They Live"

04-27-2009, 08:25 AM	#224
JobivanHiob	voice acting I hope I'm right that there isn't already a thread about voice acting in DNF. Jon St. John will return for performing the Duke voice, thats a given I guess. But whats up with other characters in the game, do they also get quality voices?! I mean in the 2001 trailer there was general Graves, strippers, Gus, EDF soldiers etc...I heard DNF will have a AAA-plot, so I wonder about this part. If there are new characters in the game by now with heavy voice acting, do they get enough effort in the dev cycle?! __________________ Stay up to date with http://dukewatch.blogspot.com for the UNEXPECTED and PREPARE YOURSELF for SHOCK and AWESOME on Penny Arcade EXPO from September 3-5! Onebullit: "If DNF comes out in 2010 i will buy 2 copies and send you one." pjVgt regading DNF at PAX:"I would seriously shit my pants and pre-order three copies - one will be sent to Jobi"

04-27-2009, 08:36 AM	#225
ZuljinRaynor	Re: voice acting Steve will be Duke in the NZ localization. __________________ My vision is augmented.

04-27-2009, 08:38 AM	#227
ZuljinRaynor	Re: voice acting Personally, I thought Prey's voice acting was the best in an FPS. For an RPG I would pick Diablo 1. Basically you need people that can become the character. __________________ My vision is augmented.

04-27-2009, 08:43 AM	#229
ZuljinRaynor	Re: voice acting She knew how to be annoying in EP2. __________________ My vision is augmented.