Wired DNF article - Page 3

Joe Siegler · 12-27-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by George Broussard

Baboy, you sure put a lot of words in my mouth that I didn't say.

Sure you don't want to hire me back? I used to take these bullets for you, man.

DerricktheW · 12-27-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Sure you don't want to hire me back? I used to take these bullets for you, man.

Noone listened to you much either

Duke's New Chainsaw · 12-27-2009, 09:31 PM

Watch out...

or you'll become DerricktheMissing.

DerricktheW · 12-27-2009, 09:36 PM

DerricktheWho?

Steve · 12-27-2009, 09:47 PM

I should probably post something funny and annoying here.

But I wont.

kj_57701 · 12-27-2009, 09:53 PM

That would be the "DerricThatGotBanned" which we never heard from in these forums again

)

Anyway, seriously! They got a lawsuit going and GB has stated quite a few times (to no avail it seems) that nothing will be stated until they can. I like a good discussion just as well as others here. It's just that in this one, we have no power, no veto rights and will not be able to influence anything happening or not happening. Whatever we do or how we feel, it makes no difference! I am simply choosing to sit on the side-lines and observe. It's more fun actually participating when real news occur rather than joining the pity-parties.

Joe Siegler · 12-27-2009, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DerricktheW

Noone listened to you much either

No, they didn't, but it would save George some grief, and I need a paycheck.

KaiserSoze · 12-28-2009, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DerricktheW

Escort missions where you have to carry babes to safety confirmed!

Not many posts make me lol. This was one of them! Hilarious!

RipNLa · 12-28-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by George Broussard

I don't actually want you to do anything other than live your life, play other games, and if we ever release solid product information you can decide what to do then. Please do me a favor and try to understand the complexity of the situation. Nearly 99.9% of the statements and assumptions made on this matter in these forums is just misguided and false. Please stop assuming things.

This is probably another one of the 99.9% but that 'if we ever' struck me as interesting since it wasnt 'when we'. I'll read into it as GeorgeB and Scott DONT actually know the future of DNF

Situation is indeed complex, and I just want to say that its always nice to see GeorgeB posting on these forums.

To everyone asking him to confirm or deny what his future plans for DNF are, you're totally missing the complexity of the law suit or are not following the case closely enough.

Duke's New Chainsaw · 12-28-2009, 01:10 AM

We're not going to know anything concrete until this lawsuit is over.

Even then it may be a bit wet.

kharne · 12-28-2009, 01:58 AM

Jesus Christ, this forum is full of fail -- it's just a damn game. The fact that a lot of people are taking their time out to hate 3D Realms just tells me that they love them and want more of their products. George and Scott have been up to other things, and I'm sure they know what they are doing. Yes, the development schedule for Duke Nukem Forever has been severely protracted, but that isn't all they've been up doing.

The company is in court over this, and they cannot comment on the state of the game for very obvious reasons. You people need to stop whining and move on. Do something more productive! Draw, program, mod a game, or better yet, play some games -- the sky is the limit!

There are better things to do. Tell you what, I'm going to stop lurking around this place and do something a little more productive, like not complain about a game from a company that owes me nothing.

As for the people who have been complaining about lack of transparency, again, that troublesome lawsuit. Oh, and George took his time out to comment on this matter -- isn't that good enough? This is a relatively small forum, so it comes to show you how much he really cares about the fans.

Move on already.

DerricktheW · 12-28-2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kharne

There are better things to do. Tell you what, I'm going to stop lurking around this place and do something a little more productive, like not complain about a game from a company that owes me nothing.

Like complain about a community complaining about a company making a game?

Swetsenegger · 12-28-2009, 05:04 AM

All those people who think they are entitled to an explanation from if not George then at least Duke himself...

---------- Post added at 12:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:03 PM ----------

To be honest I think its ******* brilliant to still be able to create this kind of a hype by just posting some one-liners on a facebook page after 13 years of not releasing anything.

Kudo's.

Waiter · 12-28-2009, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Sure you don't want to hire me back? I used to take these bullets for you, man.

Made me smile.

As for the rest - "All quiet on the western front", although I appreciate George's posts. Even if you can't/won't say anything about DNF, it's worth a lot to many people in here if you simply "show your face" in here now and then. Even if just to say "I know you're still in here".

Baboy · 12-28-2009, 05:14 AM

Most people wouldn't be so upset if there REALLY was silence about the game. But as a matter of fact, there isn't - Scott keeps us teasing for who knows what reasons. As far as we know they might lose the game anyday now, so I don't see what interest do they have in teasing. This is the main problem - if they didn't say anything about DNF that'd be fine, but they're dropping tiny hints around, and when people want explanations, they hide behind the trial going on. They don't owe us anything, fine, but they shouldn't torture us either.

Luther Blissett · 12-28-2009, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Baboy

Most people wouldn't be so upset if there REALLY was silence about the game. But as a matter of fact, there isn't - Scott keeps us teasing for who knows what reasons. As far as we know they might lose the game anyday now, so I don't see what interest do they have in teasing. This is the main problem - if they didn't say anything about DNF that'd be fine, but they're dropping tiny hints around, and when people want explanations, they hide behind the trial going on. They don't owe us anything, fine, but they shouldn't torture us either.

I used to think like you , and you can easily see it from my older posts.
Matter of fact is that my life went the way i didn't want it to go during this last year , and for the first time i felt the bitterness of failure.
Not failure while you know you are not trying your best , but failure while trying to succed.
That s the worst, you actually believe in something , then you don't deliver . And you made an ass out of yourself and left people hanging from your tree.
You didn't want any of it. You wanted them to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Now think that George has millions of people pressing him for a reply , for a new update. Now that can be a pain. It would probably be better to support him , and if there will be no DNF , that s good anyway.
Feel what the man wanted to gift to you , even though he could not make it happen. I appreciate his efforts a lot more now.

I admit i was being naive and spoiled by life. Leave him alone ( Chric Crocker pun not intended ) or support him , don't add any pressure to something he probably didn't want to happen a LOT more than you didn't want.

X-Vector · 12-28-2009, 06:19 AM

Or else?

Luther Blissett · 12-28-2009, 06:28 AM

Wow, you took your time to think , man.

It s all my fault though, for sharing a piece of my mind in a place crawling with trolls like this is right now.

X-Vector · 12-28-2009, 06:54 AM

I just think it's interesting that the insight you found amounts to something as trivial as a desire to tell other people to stick to the party line, so to say.

KaiserSoze · 12-28-2009, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Waiter

Made me smile.

As for the rest - "All quiet on the western front", although I appreciate George's posts. Even if you can't/won't say anything about DNF, it's worth a lot to many people in here if you simply "show your face" in here now and then. Even if just to say "I know you're still in here".

^I couldn't agree more.

It's nice to see George in here. It's also a testament that none of us have really gone anywhere.

Luther Blissett · 12-28-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by X-Vector

I just think it's interesting that the insight you found amounts to something as trivial as a desire to tell other people to stick to the party line, so to say.

I don't know what you re getting out of my post. Honestly i don't know .
Sometimes the hate around here is so tick you could cut it with a knife . Then again this is the internetss ( and since june this place has become trolling training grounds ) so it probably was not very wise to try and make other people try to think about this mess from a different perspective.
I m not the first one and i won't be the last to try and do it , does that make you feel better ? I am just human , so yes , i have this silly desire to share my "feelings" ( can i have another pair of " ? ) with people who might share some of my interests ( this IS 3DR forum , in the end).

Does this purpose feel "interesting" to you? Did my post add anything to the debate? Probably not. Why did i write it ? Because i felt like writing it.

JobivanHiob · 12-28-2009, 08:15 AM

I don't understand it...Scott made this promising Duke Fan Page teasing us to death and now George is saying there is another DNF media blackout due to the lawsuit....FTW, if there is nothing to look forward too in the very near future, delete this Duke Fan Page....its ******* madness.

James696 · 12-28-2009, 08:24 AM

I completely understand why some people are annoyed at the lack of information regarding the current status of 3DR and the Duke Nukem Franchise, yet at the same time, I don't think hating on Scott or George is fair.

It'd be beneficial to 3D Realms to release all the screenshots, hype and solid informtation as humanly possible to keep the still considerable (though perhaps slowly dwindling) fanbase on board and introduce new fans to the beloved franchise. The reason why they can't do this is because they don't truly know themselves or, as we've been told numerous times, because all of the above could be twisted and used against 3dr in the upcoming courtcase.

Every leaked DNF resource, every quote from Scott and George and every solitary piece of solid evidence released from here on in until the court date could potentially hurt the chances that any more 3dr Duke Nukem games will see a release in the future. Therefore, the less solid information that Scott and George release to the public now, the greater the chance that we'll have a copy of Duke Nukem Forever in our hands later.

I think the Duke fanpage was simply an effort to convey to the remaining fanbase that they know more than anybody else how rough a time it is to be a Duke Nukem fan; but that 3d Realms are indeed still around and they're one-hundred percent with us till the end of this thing, whatever that end might be.

Angelo86 · 12-28-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

I don't understand it...Scott made this promising Duke Fan Page teasing us to death and now George is saying there is another DNF media blackout due to the lawsuit....FTW, if there is nothing to look forward too in the very near future, delete this Duke Fan Page....its ******* madness.

Duke Fan Page = 3DR Teases 'Numerous' Duke Nukem Games, 'Looking to Bring Duke into Casual Gaming'

isn't DNF

JobivanHiob · 12-28-2009, 08:51 AM

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Duke Fan Page = 3DR Teases 'Numerous' Duke Nukem Games

yes thats the case due to the Critical Mass holiday card pic. But there is still the D-Day pic and Scotts message on his FB: "Something big and unexpected will soon be announced"

Scott&George if you don't show us something substential until January 16th (DNF anniversary) I'm done.

Teasing us to death and not delivering is something WE die-hard fans can't take anymore!!! Kidding us this much is just too much!

James696 · 12-28-2009, 09:01 AM

With the restraining order, the upcoming lawsuit and all the other factors, I'd put money on it that even though Scott and George have something 'big and unexpected' waiting in the wings, anything they reveal before the court date would backfire on the rest of us. A huge reveal on January 16th would be fantastic, but realistically until the rope that Take 2 has put around Duke's neck is made a little looser, I'm afraid the media blackout has to continue if we ever want to see DNF on the shelves.

KaiserSoze · 12-28-2009, 09:02 AM

Squirrel is knocking on my front window again.

crunchy superman · 12-28-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JobivanHiob

Scott&George if you don't show us something substential until January 16th (DNF anniversary) I'm done.

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I will wait for forever for Duke Nukem FOREVER

James696 · 12-28-2009, 09:07 AM

---------- Post added at 09:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:06 AM ----------

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

sig:
'I will wait for Duke Nukem FOREVER'

ditto

KaiserSoze · 12-28-2009, 09:11 AM

Most epic viral campaign ever.

Rapture_Rising · 12-28-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

Most epic viral campaign ever.

Or some of the die hard DNF fans have gullible branded on their foreheads

James696 · 12-28-2009, 09:20 AM

I think 'Liquid Kaiser Soze' has been using nanomachines and hypnotherapy to brainwash himself again

KaiserSoze · 12-28-2009, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapture_Rising

Or some of the die hard DNF fans have gullible branded on their foreheads

I tell you, Santa Claus ain't real!

SpinX · 12-28-2009, 10:17 AM

George, can you just give us the court date... then we have something we can live too...

wayskobfssae · 12-28-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KaiserSoze

I tell you, Santa Claus ain't real!

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Originally Posted by SpinX

George, can you just give us the court date... then we have something we can live too...

Call Macy's.

James696 · 12-28-2009, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SpinX

George, can you just give us the court date... then we have something we can live too...

Now we're talking. I can't see how that would cause any harm, though perhaps a court date hasn't been set yet.

ZuljinRaynor · 12-28-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

quote of Jobivan's sig and some post

Oh please let it be true.

the professional · 12-28-2009, 10:58 AM

Wow that's a sad article. They should have hired me. I would work for $20/hr and simply say "No George, we can't add that effect, we need to get it done" about 30 times a day. Would have probably saved them $10 mill and profited half a billion.

As to whether this is the whole truth or not, the article makes sense. I tend to believe things that make sense, especially when there is no other logical explanation. You cannot be developing a game for 12 years without some seriously misguided leadership. As for being unable to comment because of a pending lawsuit...the truth could easily be fed to certain magazines/news outlets anonymously. Just because it's good legal strategy not to speak about the case, or the judge put a gag order out, doesn't mean information cannot be leaked with a little effort. Anyway, they spoke with ex-employees anonymously and it's pretty clear what was going on. If it was just Take-Two's side of the story, I can see a bias there. But when half of your dev team quits and several of them are willing to speak about it without any monetary incentive to bad mouth someone, it's pretty clear to me what happened, and I think the story is about as close to the truth as anyone will ever see.

French · 12-28-2009, 11:18 AM

Their hands are tied, try to understand them, maybe this teasing ( because it's clear that de "D-DAY" pic is from DNF ) is the only way for them to talk about the game.

Let's just wait the end of the lawsuit.

James696 · 12-28-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by French

Their hands are tied, try to understand them, maybe this teasing ( because it's clear that de "D-DAY" pic is from DNF ) is the only way for them to talk about the game.

Let's just wait the end of the lawsuit.

Bingo

12-27-2009, 09:31 PM	#83
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Wired DNF article Watch out... or you'll become DerricktheMissing. __________________ The Great Communicator!

12-27-2009, 09:36 PM	#84
DerricktheW	Re: Wired DNF article DerricktheWho?

12-27-2009, 09:47 PM	#85
Steve	Re: Wired DNF article I should probably post something funny and annoying here. But I wont.

12-27-2009, 09:53 PM	#86
kj_57701	Re: Wired DNF article That would be the "DerricThatGotBanned" which we never heard from in these forums again ) Anyway, seriously! They got a lawsuit going and GB has stated quite a few times (to no avail it seems) that nothing will be stated until they can. I like a good discussion just as well as others here. It's just that in this one, we have no power, no veto rights and will not be able to influence anything happening or not happening. Whatever we do or how we feel, it makes no difference! I am simply choosing to sit on the side-lines and observe. It's more fun actually participating when real news occur rather than joining the pity-parties.

12-28-2009, 01:10 AM	#90
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Wired DNF article We're not going to know anything concrete until this lawsuit is over. Even then it may be a bit wet. __________________ The Great Communicator!

12-28-2009, 01:58 AM	#91
kharne	Re: Wired DNF article Jesus Christ, this forum is full of fail -- it's just a damn game. The fact that a lot of people are taking their time out to hate 3D Realms just tells me that they love them and want more of their products. George and Scott have been up to other things, and I'm sure they know what they are doing. Yes, the development schedule for Duke Nukem Forever has been severely protracted, but that isn't all they've been up doing. The company is in court over this, and they cannot comment on the state of the game for very obvious reasons. You people need to stop whining and move on. Do something more productive! Draw, program, mod a game, or better yet, play some games -- the sky is the limit! There are better things to do. Tell you what, I'm going to stop lurking around this place and do something a little more productive, like not complain about a game from a company that owes me nothing. As for the people who have been complaining about lack of transparency, again, that troublesome lawsuit. Oh, and George took his time out to comment on this matter -- isn't that good enough? This is a relatively small forum, so it comes to show you how much he really cares about the fans. Move on already.

12-28-2009, 05:04 AM	#93
Swetsenegger	Re: Wired DNF article All those people who think they are entitled to an explanation from if not George then at least Duke himself... ---------- Post added at 12:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:03 PM ---------- To be honest I think its ******* brilliant to still be able to create this kind of a hype by just posting some one-liners on a facebook page after 13 years of not releasing anything. Kudo's.

12-28-2009, 05:14 AM	#95
Baboy	Re: Wired DNF article Most people wouldn't be so upset if there REALLY was silence about the game. But as a matter of fact, there isn't - Scott keeps us teasing for who knows what reasons. As far as we know they might lose the game anyday now, so I don't see what interest do they have in teasing. This is the main problem - if they didn't say anything about DNF that'd be fine, but they're dropping tiny hints around, and when people want explanations, they hide behind the trial going on. They don't owe us anything, fine, but they shouldn't torture us either.

12-28-2009, 06:19 AM	#97
X-Vector	Re: Wired DNF article Or else? __________________ We're on an express elevator to hell... going clown. HELLO, MY FRIEND - freindship make a happiness double times and divide sadness half and make us remove our unhappiness. Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb

12-28-2009, 06:28 AM	#98
Luther Blissett	Re: Wired DNF article Wow, you took your time to think , man. It s all my fault though, for sharing a piece of my mind in a place crawling with trolls like this is right now.

12-28-2009, 06:54 AM	#99
X-Vector	Re: Wired DNF article I just think it's interesting that the insight you found amounts to something as trivial as a desire to tell other people to stick to the party line, so to say. __________________ We're on an express elevator to hell... going clown. HELLO, MY FRIEND - freindship make a happiness double times and divide sadness half and make us remove our unhappiness. Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb

12-28-2009, 08:15 AM	#102
JobivanHiob	Re: Wired DNF article I don't understand it...Scott made this promising Duke Fan Page teasing us to death and now George is saying there is another DNF media blackout due to the lawsuit....FTW, if there is nothing to look forward too in the very near future, delete this Duke Fan Page....its ***** madness. __________________ Stay up to date with http://dukewatch.blogspot.com for the UNEXPECTED and PREPARE YOURSELF for SHOCK and AWESOME on Penny Arcade EXPO from September 3-5!** Onebullit: "If DNF comes out in 2010 i will buy 2 copies and send you one." pjVgt regading DNF at PAX:"I would seriously shit my pants and pre-order three copies - one will be sent to Jobi"

12-28-2009, 08:24 AM	#103
James696	Re: Wired DNF article I completely understand why some people are annoyed at the lack of information regarding the current status of 3DR and the Duke Nukem Franchise, yet at the same time, I don't think hating on Scott or George is fair. It'd be beneficial to 3D Realms to release all the screenshots, hype and solid informtation as humanly possible to keep the still considerable (though perhaps slowly dwindling) fanbase on board and introduce new fans to the beloved franchise. The reason why they can't do this is because they don't truly know themselves or, as we've been told numerous times, because all of the above could be twisted and used against 3dr in the upcoming courtcase. Every leaked DNF resource, every quote from Scott and George and every solitary piece of solid evidence released from here on in until the court date could potentially hurt the chances that any more 3dr Duke Nukem games will see a release in the future. Therefore, the less solid information that Scott and George release to the public now, the greater the chance that we'll have a copy of Duke Nukem Forever in our hands later. I think the Duke fanpage was simply an effort to convey to the remaining fanbase that they know more than anybody else how rough a time it is to be a Duke Nukem fan; but that 3d Realms are indeed still around and they're one-hundred percent with us till the end of this thing, whatever that end might be. Last edited by James696; 12-28-2009 at 08:46 AM.

12-28-2009, 09:01 AM	#106
James696	Re: Wired DNF article With the restraining order, the upcoming lawsuit and all the other factors, I'd put money on it that even though Scott and George have something 'big and unexpected' waiting in the wings, anything they reveal before the court date would backfire on the rest of us. A huge reveal on January 16th would be fantastic, but realistically until the rope that Take 2 has put around Duke's neck is made a little looser, I'm afraid the media blackout has to continue if we ever want to see DNF on the shelves.

12-28-2009, 09:02 AM	#107
KaiserSoze	Re: Wired DNF article Squirrel is knocking on my front window again.

12-28-2009, 09:11 AM	#110
KaiserSoze	Re: Wired DNF article Most epic viral campaign ever.

12-28-2009, 09:20 AM	#112
James696	Re: Wired DNF article I think 'Liquid Kaiser Soze' has been using nanomachines and hypnotherapy to brainwash himself again Last edited by James696; 12-28-2009 at 09:25 AM.

12-28-2009, 10:17 AM	#114
SpinX	Re: Wired DNF article George, can you just give us the court date... then we have something we can live too... __________________ waiting for: Elite sequel, Half life 3, Diablo3, DNF Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherxxxxxx delays on this motherxxxxxx game :) http://www.youtube.com/user/ftbfelix

12-28-2009, 10:58 AM	#118
the professional	Re: Wired DNF article Wow that's a sad article. They should have hired me. I would work for $20/hr and simply say "No George, we can't add that effect, we need to get it done" about 30 times a day. Would have probably saved them $10 mill and profited half a billion. As to whether this is the whole truth or not, the article makes sense. I tend to believe things that make sense, especially when there is no other logical explanation. You cannot be developing a game for 12 years without some seriously misguided leadership. As for being unable to comment because of a pending lawsuit...the truth could easily be fed to certain magazines/news outlets anonymously. Just because it's good legal strategy not to speak about the case, or the judge put a gag order out, doesn't mean information cannot be leaked with a little effort. Anyway, they spoke with ex-employees anonymously and it's pretty clear what was going on. If it was just Take-Two's side of the story, I can see a bias there. But when half of your dev team quits and several of them are willing to speak about it without any monetary incentive to bad mouth someone, it's pretty clear to me what happened, and I think the story is about as close to the truth as anyone will ever see. Last edited by the professional; 12-28-2009 at 11:05 AM.

12-28-2009, 11:18 AM	#119
French	Re: Wired DNF article Their hands are tied, try to understand them, maybe this teasing ( because it's clear that de "D-DAY" pic is from DNF ) is the only way for them to talk about the game. Let's just wait the end of the lawsuit.