Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! - Page 21

81 Z28 · 08-24-2008, 02:10 PM

486?

Mr.Fibbles · 08-24-2008, 02:24 PM

Dude, the 486 was the shizat back in the day. I think my first computer was a 386 actually. I remember getting Duke 3D and loading it up on our computer. Those were the days.

I imagine that if the game doesn't have any major graphical overhall, it should load really fast and play really well. That is if the engine was optimized right, which I have no doubt it was.

Comparatively, if you played EDuke32 or any other windows/mac/linux port with a high res pack or mods that use new textures (lots of pngs etc) it takes a while to load up even on a modern computer system with comparable specs to the 360.

George Broussard · 08-24-2008, 02:27 PM

re: load times...It's instantaneous on modern pc's. In fact we had to introduce some delays for things like level load screens because of Microsoft requirements stating that a screen has to be displayed for at least X time. ie: When you load a level you see "Loading Hollywood Holocaust" for a couple of seconds before the level loads.

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Originally Posted by Steve

Does anyone have a link to which levels are in the ranked games? I can't find anything. I read it a few days ago, too

We're still playing with the ranked playlist and will probably tweak it after launch. What levels do you all want to see? I polled people here and on the Shack months back and we pulled the most popular Dukematch levels over. The list were things like:

Hollywood, Red Light, Stadium, Freeway, Spin Cycle, Duke Burger, LA Rumble, etc...

You can play any map in Player Match, but we wanted all the Ranked maps to truly be good for Dukematch, since you don't get to pick which one you play on.

peoplessi · 08-24-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Yeah I first played DN3D on a 486. I could start a game, go get a drink and be back in time to play.

It didn't take that long, I had 486 too. Or either you are I are remembering things wrong

Damien_Azreal · 08-24-2008, 03:12 PM

How much ram did you have in yours? After I upgraded my ram Duke3D loaded much faster on that PC.

ash678 · 08-24-2008, 03:53 PM

George i really hope you have for multiplayer the level with the train. i loved running down that thing battling other guys and then having to run away because a train was coming :d.

added variety to the battle and you had to look closely,

mct783 · 08-24-2008, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by George Broussard

We're still playing with the ranked playlist and will probably tweak it after launch. What levels do you all want to see? I polled people here and on the Shack months back and we pulled the most popular Dukematch levels over. The list were things like:

Hollywood, Red Light, Stadium, Freeway, Spin Cycle, Duke Burger, LA Rumble, etc...

That list is excellent. Hotel Hell or w/e is also a great one. And yea as mentioned, the Subway/train station was also a great level. I loved riding the train haha

I guess it got overlooked, but what's it looking like on how many players are going to be supported for online play?

Ironside · 08-24-2008, 04:26 PM

I think the subway was only on the 64.

AcesOfJokers · 08-24-2008, 04:30 PM

We're there any noticeable things you had to cut out of the game to port it like secret places, voice clips, etc.

BloodWolf806 · 08-24-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BloodWolf806

George or Joe, does the 360 version support 16:9 resolution?

What, is this a secret or something? You won't answer...

mct783 · 08-24-2008, 04:47 PM

lol we're totally flooding them with questions. at least we're enthusiastic

MegaMustaine · 08-24-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AcesOfJokers

We're there any noticeable things you had to cut out of the game to port it like secret places, voice clips, etc.

The answer to that would be a hell no.

Oh and 8 players online I believe.

Steve · 08-24-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by George Broussard

re: load times...It's instantaneous on modern pc's. In fact we had to introduce some delays for things like level load screens because of Microsoft requirements stating that a screen has to be displayed for at least X time. ie: When you load a level you see "Loading Hollywood Holocaust" for a couple of seconds before the level loads.

We're still playing with the ranked playlist and will probably tweak it after launch. What levels do you all want to see? I polled people here and on the Shack months back and we pulled the most popular Dukematch levels over. The list were things like:

Hollywood, Red Light, Stadium, Freeway, Spin Cycle, Duke Burger, LA Rumble, etc...

You can play any map in Player Match, but we wanted all the Ranked maps to truly be good for Dukematch, since you don't get to pick which one you play on.

Hotel Hell is a must

Joe Siegler · 08-24-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AcesOfJokers

We're there any noticeable things you had to cut out of the game to port it like secret places, voice clips, etc.

There were one level that I recall where if you played Co-op, you could get stuck, and we had to put a map bypass in there. There's one in Episode 4 whose name I forget where you go up a spiral stairwell at the start, and the stairwell and the room you go into totally collapses. In Co-op, you'd get killed, go back to the start, and you couldn't get up the stairwell, cutting you off. I think we had to add a teleport into co-op to get past the collapsed area for that map. But that was an addition, not a subtraction - generally we tried not to touch the old content unless there was some really "broken" reason like this. Movie Set also had a collapsed area where you could get stuck, but you can get out of that level another way, so you're not really stuck in that one.

I don't believe we cut any content out of the game - George, am I remembering this right?

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Originally Posted by BloodWolf806

What, is this a secret or something? You won't answer...

Every 360 game supports 16x9 - all you have to do is tell your 360 you're using 16x9, and BAM!

avatar_58 · 08-24-2008, 08:11 PM

I hate not having a 360 to play you people

Sucks to miss out on it. I really enjoyed those Prey DMs we had.

ZuljinRaynor · 08-24-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Besides... nobody other than Zuljin would want to hear me say anything.

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Originally Posted by TBZ

I think Raynor has a man-crush on you

Hey, that's not nice.

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

Just my voice.

Monday I'll go and get a modem and get my 360 online, then I can sit and wait for Duke to be released. It'll be cool to do some co-op with you guys.

I better get my VGA cables working or else I gotta play on 480i downstairs. :/ I'll go buy MSpoints though cause I need them.

BloodWolf806 · 08-24-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Every 360 game supports 16x9 - all you have to do is tell your 360 you're using 16x9, and BAM!

Yeah, but what I'm tryin' to ask is if the game takes up the whole screen, or are there black bars on the side of the screen like DOOM?

ZuljinRaynor · 08-24-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Every 360 game supports 16x9 - all you have to do is tell your 360 you're using 16x9, and BAM!

That was my problem with the Doom port. It's 16:9 even when I play on my PC monitor at 1280x1024. But the Doom port isn't even 16:9, the menu is and the game itself has pillar boxing. So at 1280x1024 I get like a 1024x768 image with a huge black border around it.

Steve · 08-24-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

There's one in Episode 4 whose name I forget where you go up a spiral stairwell at the start, and the stairwell and the room you go into totally collapses. In Co-op, you'd get killed, go back to the start, and you couldn't get up the stairwell, cutting you off. I think we had to add a teleport into co-op to get past the collapsed area for that map. But that was an addition, not a subtraction

Sounds like the level, Critical Mass

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

That was my problem with the Doom port. It's 16:9 even when I play on my PC monitor at 1280x1024. But the Doom port isn't even 16:9, the menu is and the game itself has pillar boxing. So at 1280x1024 I get like a 1024x768 image with a huge black border around it.

That pissed me off.

Joe Siegler · 08-24-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

Sounds like the level, Critical Mass

Yeah, that sounds right. That's one of the things that I had to do was play through the entire game in co-op several times looking for areas where you could get trapped like that.

AcesOfJokers · 08-24-2008, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

There were one level that I recall where if you played Co-op, you could get stuck, and we had to put a map bypass in there. There's one in Episode 4 whose name I forget where you go up a spiral stairwell at the start, and the stairwell and the room you go into totally collapses. In Co-op, you'd get killed, go back to the start, and you couldn't get up the stairwell, cutting you off. I think we had to add a teleport into co-op to get past the collapsed area for that map. But that was an addition, not a subtraction - generally we tried not to touch the old content unless there was some really "broken" reason like this. Movie Set also had a collapsed area where you could get stuck, but you can get out of that level another way, so you're not really stuck in that one.

I don't believe we cut any content out of the game - George, am I remembering this right?

Y'know, I have only been here for four days and almost everything I ask or say to you guys you respond to. I like the community/dev communication here. Anyway thanks for the info

ZuljinRaynor · 08-24-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Yeah, that sounds right. That's one of the things that I had to do was play through the entire game in co-op several times looking for areas where you could get trapped like that.

I remember when I was 8 and playing that level... ugh my reflexes and gaming skill were low that I would die often in that area. Never liked the level cause of that.

Steve · 08-24-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

I remember when I was 8 and playing that level... ugh my reflexes and gaming skill were low that I would die often in that area. Never liked the level cause of that.

I wasn't a fan of it because it was too small. Oh, and I died a lot

StixnStonz · 08-24-2008, 09:22 PM

i hope it doesnt have the black bars on the sides on 16:9. That was so annoying in doom and also mortal kombat! i have the option to fit my screen on my tv but then it looks washed out

was anything added hinting at duke nukem forever? will releasing duke 3d on XBL mean some new info will arise from duke forever in the press in sept?

Yatta · 08-24-2008, 09:25 PM

Hey guys, look what I found:

Q: Are the sprites or textures updated / cleaned up?

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GB: There are over 5000 sprites/tiles in the original game. It really wasn't within the scope or timeline of the project to update the art. That said, I'm not sure we'd want to, anyway, as imo, it's like colorizing old movies. Unless it's a 100% remake/retelling of an old game, it's better to just leave it classic and add efforts where you can to make it better., and I think we achieved that by adding lots of new features.

Source: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17739416

d3ad connection · 08-24-2008, 09:36 PM

I'm glad. I wouldn't feel the same to me if they did change the art.

alexgk · 08-24-2008, 09:57 PM

Good ol' DN3D. Perfect...

mct783 · 08-25-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by AcesOfJokers

Y'know, I have only been here for four days and almost everything I ask or say to you guys you respond to. I like the community/dev communication here. Anyway thanks for the info

Same here, main reason I decided to get involved with the community here was the constant replies by George and Joe. I can't go on any other company board (off the top of my head) and get support and direct answers like that.

Steve · 08-25-2008, 07:55 AM

Got my first achievement!

Sorry about the pic, my tv sucks and chops off most of the games (playing halo 3 can be a bitch like that)

81 Z28 · 08-25-2008, 08:14 AM

Wha... How?

Steve · 08-25-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 81 Z28

Wha... How?

I got the achievement by tipping a stripper

81 Z28 · 08-25-2008, 08:20 AM

no. no how do you have the game

JobivanHiob · 08-25-2008, 08:22 AM

photoshop?

81 Z28 · 08-25-2008, 08:32 AM

yeah thats what i was thinking.

Joe Siegler · 08-25-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve

Got my first achievement!

Sorry about the pic, my tv sucks and chops off most of the games (playing halo 3 can be a bitch like that)

Photoshop's great, eh? The achievements don't look like that. Screen positioning is wrong, too. Nice try, though.

Steve · 08-25-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Photoshop's great, eh? The achievements don't look like that. Nice try, though.

Joe!

ash678 · 08-25-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve

Joe!

all we need to do was check ur profile on live and it wouuld say if u played duke or not

George Broussard · 08-25-2008, 09:20 AM

Joe spoils all the fun. Nice mockup though. Would have fooled a lot of people

AcesOfJokers · 08-25-2008, 09:38 AM

we're getting previews tomorrow right?

ADM · 08-25-2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

I'll tell you, one of the things I'm most looking forward to is playing y'all. That ought to be a lot of fun.

Yeah would be great to play you Joe.. I think I'll get live gold just for this, we'll see how lag goes eh?

08-24-2008, 03:12 PM	#805
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! How much ram did you have in yours? After I upgraded my ram Duke3D loaded much faster on that PC. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

08-24-2008, 02:10 PM	#801
81 Z28	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! 486? __________________ Gamertag: Cesko81 Playing: GTA IV, COD IV, Skate

08-24-2008, 02:24 PM	#802
Mr.Fibbles	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! Dude, the 486 was the shizat back in the day. I think my first computer was a 386 actually. I remember getting Duke 3D and loading it up on our computer. Those were the days. I imagine that if the game doesn't have any major graphical overhall, it should load really fast and play really well. That is if the engine was optimized right, which I have no doubt it was. Comparatively, if you played EDuke32 or any other windows/mac/linux port with a high res pack or mods that use new textures (lots of pngs etc) it takes a while to load up even on a modern computer system with comparable specs to the 360. __________________ http://thaunandshad.com

08-24-2008, 03:53 PM	#806
ash678	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! George i really hope you have for multiplayer the level with the train. i loved running down that thing battling other guys and then having to run away because a train was coming :d. added variety to the battle and you had to look closely,

08-24-2008, 04:26 PM	#808
Ironside	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! I think the subway was only on the 64.

08-24-2008, 04:30 PM	#809
AcesOfJokers	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! We're there any noticeable things you had to cut out of the game to port it like secret places, voice clips, etc.

08-24-2008, 04:47 PM	#811
mct783	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! lol we're totally flooding them with questions. at least we're enthusiastic

08-24-2008, 08:11 PM	#815
avatar_58	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! I hate not having a 360 to play you people Sucks to miss out on it. I really enjoyed those Prey DMs we had.

08-24-2008, 09:22 PM	#824
StixnStonz	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! i hope it doesnt have the black bars on the sides on 16:9. That was so annoying in doom and also mortal kombat! i have the option to fit my screen on my tv but then it looks washed out was anything added hinting at duke nukem forever? will releasing duke 3d on XBL mean some new info will arise from duke forever in the press in sept? __________________ http://www.dreamsfade.com xbox live gamertag: Careful Line

08-24-2008, 09:36 PM	#826
d3ad connection	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! I'm glad. I wouldn't feel the same to me if they did change the art.

08-24-2008, 09:57 PM	#827
alexgk	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! Good ol' DN3D. Perfect... __________________ Playable demo this year! Confirmed!!

08-25-2008, 07:55 AM	#829
Steve	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! Got my first achievement! Sorry about the pic, my tv sucks and chops off most of the games (playing halo 3 can be a bitch like that)

08-25-2008, 08:14 AM	#830
81 Z28	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! Wha... How? __________________ Gamertag: Cesko81 Playing: GTA IV, COD IV, Skate

08-25-2008, 08:20 AM	#832
81 Z28	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! no. no how do you have the game __________________ Gamertag: Cesko81 Playing: GTA IV, COD IV, Skate

08-25-2008, 08:22 AM	#833
JobivanHiob	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! photoshop? __________________ Stay up to date with http://dukewatch.blogspot.com for the UNEXPECTED and PREPARE YOURSELF for SHOCK and AWESOME on Penny Arcade EXPO from September 3-5! Onebullit: "If DNF comes out in 2010 i will buy 2 copies and send you one." pjVgt regading DNF at PAX:"I would seriously shit my pants and pre-order three copies - one will be sent to Jobi"

08-25-2008, 08:32 AM	#834
81 Z28	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! yeah thats what i was thinking. __________________ Gamertag: Cesko81 Playing: GTA IV, COD IV, Skate

08-25-2008, 09:20 AM	#838
George Broussard	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! Joe spoils all the fun. Nice mockup though. Would have fooled a lot of people

08-25-2008, 09:38 AM	#839
AcesOfJokers	Re: Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! we're getting previews tomorrow right?