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Old 02-09-2004, 08:15 PM   #1
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[MP2] Crap ending!
Played the game the other night,took me just over a day to complete.

The ending was crap,did not make sense,spoilt the game,running around like a legless chicken while some dumbass is throwing endless amount of dynamite at you.

Give me a break man.
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:20 PM   #2
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so I take it you liked the rest of the game?

I thought the ending wasn't that great either (just gameplay). It wasn't very challenging or interesting. Just shoot all the pegs out to kill the boss...fun.
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:34 PM   #3
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Top game,very playable especially the latter levels...

Had the same prob too with the B/A,it was the wife who asked me have i looked in the forum for advice..lol.

Well at least they try to get involved,worked flawless then on....

Had to restart it dozens of times man.....
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Old 02-10-2004, 03:53 AM   #4
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yupyup.. the Vlad fight in the end is preeeetty fuun
 
Old 02-10-2004, 09:30 AM   #5
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I wanted to directly slaughter Vlad. I wanted to riddle his flesh with bullets. BULLETS!
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Old 02-11-2004, 05:04 PM   #6
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I wish they had a good cinimatic at the end like in the first one with the helicopter and the antenna. This one was a little *cough* *cough* terrible *cough*
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Old 02-11-2004, 05:07 PM   #7
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well.... mp2 is about unlucky love so..... guess the ending is pretty good....
 
Old 02-11-2004, 08:20 PM   #8
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I thought it was a great ending, way better than the first. Vlad is one of the only times I ever felt angry at myself for having to kill the villain...Vlad rocked.
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:13 AM   #9
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^ yeah, he was awesome. Much cooler than Vinnie.

/me ducks from Mariamus.


I was pissed that he betrayed me, ME!!!!! Dearest of all his friends.
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Old 02-12-2004, 10:31 AM   #10
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^ yeah, he was awesome. Much cooler than Vinnie.

/me ducks from Mariamus.


I was pissed that he betrayed me, ME!!!!! Dearest of all his friends.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Vlad didn't have many friends at all, so to be dearest mattered not
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Old 02-12-2004, 11:12 AM   #11
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Vlad didn't have many friends at all, so to be dearest mattered not
That was the point. He probably said that to EVERYONE.
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Old 02-12-2004, 11:25 AM   #12
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^ yeah, he was awesome. Much cooler than Vinnie.
Well yeah, who was in the Captain Baseball Bat-boy costume with a bomb in the head, and who was the one who blew it up?

I don't know, I was "dying" for Vinnie to get run over by the train in the first one, yet in the Captain Baseball Bat-boy costume he became strangely likable. Vlad was kickass all the way. Even after the betrayal, as he was a far better and more interesting villain than that no-name Nicole Horn in MP1.
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Old 02-12-2004, 11:35 AM   #13
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Well, it's because you got to know Vlad as a real joker. someone who could poke fun at stuff.. he was the charming russian with the cute accent, the smile and the light-hearted attitude towards his whole business.. you couldn't help liking Vlad in the first game.. and then, in the second, you like him, he's changed, you can see that.. and slowly, his image starts to rot like a corpse in the sun... you start to hate him..

You hated Nicole Horne because she was a mean corporate bitch without a heart.

Vlad is someone you're in total disbelief about, you're thinking: No.. it can't be! not VLAD!?

now you're hating Vlad cause he was the friend you helped and then he thanked you by scratching your back with a huge army knife.. ouch!

I felt bad too for having to kill Vlad.. he was cool.... and then he was not...

and Wamplet.. nothing you say can diminish my love for Vinnie-boo.
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Old 02-12-2004, 11:57 AM   #14
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^^^^^
That about sums up Vlad and why he made such a great villain in the end.

I just felt Nicole Horn was kind of boring and cliche though...nothing really made her stand out IMO. That's one reason I felt the ending of MP2 was better, as it wasn't the fairly "Happy" ending that MP1 had, with Max having to kill a former friend, Mona dying and so on and Max just barely making through it, and while many probably felt that made for a less "successful" feeling after finishing, I'd be inclined to disagree.
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Old 02-12-2004, 12:56 PM   #15
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Indeed. Nicole Horne was a bit of a typical villain, (except that she was female)..

But one thing that bugged me about the MP2 ending was the cinematic.. I thought the MP1 ending had cool cinematics, and when you got killed you went out with style! in MP2 it didn't have that cool an ending.. Vlad went out with a bang, but it could have been done a lot cooler..

And I like the first ending where Mona dies. it gives Max a chance to start over without anyone from his past there to remind him of all that's happened.. clean slate, u know.

but the other ending was cool too, cause then Max gets something he needs..
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Old 02-12-2004, 01:10 PM   #16
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But one thing that bugged me about the MP2 ending was the cinematic.. I thought the MP1 ending had cool cinematics, and when you got killed you went out with style! in MP2 it didn't have that cool an ending.. Vlad went out with a bang, but it could have been done a lot cooler..
Agreed. It was fairly uneventful as far as his fiery free-falling death went.

I wanted to see his corpse mangled to bits and some of Woden's hounds come into the room to rend his flesh from bone. :tinytred:
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Old 02-12-2004, 05:29 PM   #17
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Vlad didn't have many friends at all, so to be dearest mattered not
That was the point. He probably said that to EVERYONE.
it's a shame bixen managed to miss the joke there :|

i liked the ending too. I thought it was quite dramatic cinematics before the swap to gn.


plus vlad can fall differently because of rag doll
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Old 05-06-2004, 01:19 PM   #18
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great ending!
not as climactic as mp1 but mp2 is a completely different story.
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Old 05-07-2004, 06:33 AM   #19
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But one thing that bugged me about the MP2 ending was the cinematic.. I thought the MP1 ending had cool cinematics, and when you got killed you went out with style! in MP2 it didn't have that cool an ending.. Vlad went out with a bang, but it could have been done a lot cooler..
Agreed. It was fairly uneventful as far as his fiery free-falling death went.

I wanted to see his corpse mangled to bits and some of Woden's hounds come into the room to rend his flesh from bone. :tinytred:
Hey, it was not supposed to be cooll, just overly artistic. Which is was.
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Old 05-08-2004, 12:21 AM   #20
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The MP1 ending blows MP2 out of the water. You see the copter lift off, then the tower smacks it. The music crescendos, drowning out the footsteps of the police. Max Payne with a look of serenity on his face "A bit closer to heaven." cue credits.

god you can't beat that.
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Old 05-08-2004, 09:24 PM   #21
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But one thing that bugged me about the MP2 ending was the cinematic.. I thought the MP1 ending had cool cinematics, and when you got killed you went out with style! in MP2 it didn't have that cool an ending.. Vlad went out with a bang, but it could have been done a lot cooler..
Agreed. It was fairly uneventful as far as his fiery free-falling death went.

I wanted to see his corpse mangled to bits and some of Woden's hounds come into the room to rend his flesh from bone. :tinytred:
Hey, it was not supposed to be cooll, just overly artistic. Which is was.

peh, it was CLEARLY a symbolistic act... I mean, come one.. I'll make this short...

Mona - bites the apple., which you see fall to the gound

Vlad - dies, near a painting, of the Tree of Life , where a "spear2 like object pokes up (Longnius, anyone?)

It's all symbolism... come on, you think it was RANDOM that it was a SNAKE Mona had to press, top open the gates of Woden's manor

It's all drawn from the bible!!!
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Old 05-08-2004, 09:31 PM   #22
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But one thing that bugged me about the MP2 ending was the cinematic.. I thought the MP1 ending had cool cinematics, and when you got killed you went out with style! in MP2 it didn't have that cool an ending.. Vlad went out with a bang, but it could have been done a lot cooler..
Agreed. It was fairly uneventful as far as his fiery free-falling death went.

I wanted to see his corpse mangled to bits and some of Woden's hounds come into the room to rend his flesh from bone. :tinytred:
Hey, it was not supposed to be cooll, just overly artistic. Which is was.

peh, it was CLEARLY a symbolistic act... I mean, come one.. I'll make this short...

Mona - bites the apple., which you see fall to the gound

Vlad - dies, near a painting, of the Tree of Life , where a "spear2 like object pokes up (Longnius, anyone?)

It's all symbolism... come on, you think it was RANDOM that it was a SNAKE Mona had to press, top open the gates of Woden's manor

It's all drawn from the bible!!!
Wow that was deep...wow... I never thought you were so smart... I knew for the painting/apple, but all those other things..cool!
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Old 05-09-2004, 01:34 AM   #23
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I thank you humbly Ivan hehe

(It's the last time I post in the middle of the night by the way.. phew... (I know I can't keep that))

I'm trying to think of other examples right now, but they seem to be flying in and out of my head (which really hurts a lot right now.. hehe)

I'll have to agree with copnblow on some parts though, I too, missed the grand finale style firefight - which I didin't get in MP1 either.. instead it was just a "run, dodge dynamite/molotov, shoot wood-thingy, run, dodge dynamite/molotov, shoot wood-thingy" it got kind of tedious really.. it seemed too easy... I mean, if Vlad was able to hold offf against Vinnie's goons, while hiding under a desk (using only ONE arm) - he should at least be able to do better than just hiding in Woden's lil' iron-basket

(okay, he did miss Max's head completely, as described in the "Vlad's aim" thread, somewhere... that was kinda sucky for a point-blank shot )
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Old 05-09-2004, 03:41 PM   #24
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He hit Max, it just got lodged inbetween the skull and skin. That's my take anyways.

From the look of the wound, it looks like it hit the temporal lobe. He'd be hurting hard if it really did penetrate the brain. That's why I think it went underneath the skin, but came at an oblique angle, so that it couldn't break the skullbones.
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Old 05-09-2004, 08:38 PM   #25
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I think it just grazed him. Maybe fracturing the skull with it.
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Old 05-11-2004, 02:35 AM   #26
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I did not like the ending, however I would not go as far to say that its crap. In my opinion it could have been better.


It took me for damn ever to figure out that I had to shoot the pegs, ran around for probably 20 minutes. I had noticed that his grenades would damage and remove part of the floor, so for about 10 minutes that is exactly what I was trying to do....

Anyway, I expected more of a challenging ending. It also peaved me that I could not hurt him before he got on that platform. He seemed to be not affected by my bullets.
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Old 05-11-2004, 07:34 PM   #27
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Anyway, I expected more of a challenging ending. It also peaved me that I could not hurt him before he got on that platform. He seemed to be not affected by my bullets.
Yeah, I emptied my entire arsenal on his ass out of spite the first time through. I knew what had to be done, but I was just curious if he had godmode enabled.
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:37 PM   #28
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MP1 had IMO "better" ending, Max had his revenge against Horne, but it didn`t bring his family back, and he was arrested. It was still a bit sad ending. Though is too in MP2, the ending where Mona dies, it felt sad, when Mona died too.
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Old 05-15-2004, 04:44 PM   #29
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None ending is the best...the game Max Payne will die, this will be Teh Ending.
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Old 05-16-2004, 06:32 AM   #30
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Bought Max Payne 2 a couple of days ago and couldn't stop playing it! The ending was beautiful in a very bitter-sweet way, and it fit perfectly into the Max theme

Big huzzahs to Remedy!
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Old 07-22-2004, 07:40 PM   #31
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yeah i love max payne 2 i cant wait for the 3rd max payne.
 
Old 07-22-2004, 07:52 PM   #32
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yeah i love max payne 2 i cant wait for the 3rd max payne.
Indeed, can't wait for it...
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:33 PM   #33
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:42 AM   #34
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Crap ending? Agree, but very spectacular.
Max Payne 1 rulez! Vengence - that's cool - not a love story crap!

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Old 07-26-2004, 11:10 AM   #35
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I thought the ending was just, perfect and beautiful in a way.
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Old 07-27-2004, 05:52 AM   #36
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I think Sami needs to come in here and admit he stole all his material from the bible and Raymond Chandler.
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:30 AM   #37
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My main gaming computer was unfortunately broken when Max Payne II first came out.
And so I couldn't play it as soon as it was released, like I did when Max Payne came out.
I had to wait until just recently when I got my new computer. Having just finished it, I have
to say that the story is rather depressing, even by Max Payne standards. Poor Max,
a parade of endlessly horrible things happens to him. Even Mona died when it looked like Max
had saved her. It would have been nice if at least she could have lived. I felt so bad for Max.
It's like, his wife and kid are dead, his friends are dead, guys he thought he was on at least
somewhat friendly terms with, yeah, they're dead, too. Sheesh, cut the guy a break already!

Over all, I thought game was great. Great graphics, levels, moves and action, as always,
and the slick "The Replacement Killers" reload ability was really cool. Also, it was great to
see the excellent level of detail of Max Payne continued in the sequel. Every place you go is
just filled with realistic touches. And I love the t.v. shows you can watch on the televisions!
Hat's off to Remedy for yet another superb Max Payne game!

The only thing I didn't like about the game was the fact that Max didn't look like Max.
Same Lake *is* Max! He must be brought back next time. And the ending was, as I said,
awfully gloomy.

Speaking of which, has Remedy begun work on the next Max Payne game yet?
I'm already looking forward to Max Payne III and the continuation of one of
the greatest computer game series of all time!
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Old 07-29-2004, 11:37 AM   #38
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Remedy won't be doing MP3.
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Old 07-29-2004, 01:00 PM   #39
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a parade of endlessly horrible things happens to him. Even Mona died when it looked like Max
had saved her. It would have been nice if at least she could have lived. I felt so bad for Max.
It's like, his wife and kid are dead, his friends are dead, guys he thought he was on at least
somewhat friendly terms with, yeah, they're dead, too. Sheesh, cut the guy a break already!

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