Duke Nukem 3D: High resolution pack released

[Killd a ton]

np i ofthen have the same problem

[zilppuri]

I have been playing with the HRP for awhile, and I must say it looks great. EXCEPT that all the girlie posters, videos and mags are really bad. I don't like the idea of taking copyrighted material and placing it in this sort of project. And although it's damn easy to rip off photo material, it just sticks out too much from otherwise "cartoony" look.

Good bad example is tile 577 which is simply photo (of not-that-good looking woman) with no editing at all.

Also tile 568 (the "play" magazine) is very badly done (with paint?) and author has written "copyright (c) 2004 3DRealms" to it, which is NOT good thing to add to this type of project, even as a joke. Especially if the author has first stolen someones work for that girl in the mag, and then claims 3DRealms did it.

And I was wondering if it's really necessary to replace the original video screen girlie textures with illegal "high res" girlie material? Video screens tend to be rather low res anyway, and since everyone else is going to hard way when making the textures, why accept this quickly done illegal poop?

[ikkejw]

zilppuri said:
I have been playing with the HRP for awhile, and I must say it looks great. EXCEPT that all the girlie posters, videos and mags are really bad. I don't like the idea of taking copyrighted material and placing it in this sort of project. And although it's damn easy to rip off photo material, it just sticks out too much from otherwise "cartoony" look.

Good bad example is tile 577 which is simply photo (of not-that-good looking woman) with no editing at all.

Also tile 568 (the "play" magazine) is very badly done (with paint?) and author has written "copyright (c) 2004 3DRealms" to it, which is NOT good thing to add to this type of project, even as a joke. Especially if the author has first stolen someones work for that girl in the mag, and then claims 3DRealms did it.

And I was wondering if it's really necessary to replace the original video screen girlie textures with illegal "high res" girlie material? Video screens tend to be rather low res anyway, and since everyone else is going to hard way when making the textures, why accept this quickly done illegal poop?

offtopic: zilppuri! You're back!

ontopic: I agree.

[Piterplus]

zilppuri said:
Also tile 568 (the "play" magazine) is very badly done (with paint?) and author has written "copyright (c) 2004 3DRealms" to it, which is NOT good thing to add to this type of project, even as a joke. Especially if the author has first stolen someones work for that girl in the mag, and then claims 3DRealms did it.

Just want to add a few word in defence of the 577 tile (play magazine). I like it, although I do not know who did it.
IMO perfect job, made NOT with paint, obviously (if you have same copy as me). I suppose it was made with poser and not "stolen" from some mag (not quite sure, may be wrong). As for the text - as long as 3DRealms dont mind - why should we?

[Chip]

Could someone put down new links to the high res pack since all the other links I've tried are either broken or take you to a messed up website. (bandwith full or wrong site totally).

[Killd a ton]

20 post ago in this topic i made a full list of the latest liks

[Piterplus]

Maked a mistake in my previous post : instead of 568 I wrote 577.
577 really is just a photo of some girl.

[Killd a ton]

I also made a back side to 577 and folded the poster

[JR Ewing]

So where can I download this 75MB file with all the highres sprites and textures??? All the links are broken, I assume due to bandwidth limits.

[Kev_Hectic]

^ I clicked on all of them, and the only one that works is the fileplanet link, sadly. And there's a 52 minute wait for it.

[Parkar]

Darn, no one works?

Its not long until the next version (YYea I know I have been saying it for some time now) so probably wont go through to much trouble finding mirrors for the old ones.

We need to try an come up with a solution for the next one though. Only a fileplanet download would not be to good.

Maybe using bittorrent or something similar is an option to consider.

[TerminX]

Parkar said:
Darn, no one works?

Its not long until the next version (YYea I know I have been saying it for some time now) so probably wont go through to much trouble finding mirrors for the old ones.

We need to try an come up with a solution for the next one though. Only a fileplanet download would not be to good.

Maybe using bittorrent or something similar is an option to consider.

It's a real bandwidth sucker -- I used more than 230 gigs of bandwidth just on the current version.

[Killd a ton]

this one is also working
http://www.gamers.net.nz/gtv/files/view/duke3d_respack

I estimate that around 20'000 hrp has been downloaded.

One a side not i was hosbitalised to day for some problems with my hart, lucaly after runing a few scans, test's and some graphs they decided that they didn't need to watch me 24/7. still a bit erry that they could not figure out what the problem is :/

also seams to be one here
http://bitzi.com/lookup/2L5GBFV4M5YV...RAJF23JFTAGZTP

[Phayzon]

TerminX said:
It's a real bandwidth sucker -- I used more than 230 gigs of bandwidth just on the current version.

If the new one is an update, not a full pack, it should eat as much bandwidth. Hopefully.

[Roma Loom]

The new HRP is a full-pack with a completely new structure where defs are written in the latest DEF-language.

I wonder... JonoF told clearly that the current DEF-language is likely to change in the final jfDuke version which is not far from release... So once this HRP is released Parkar and Killd need to rebuild and re-release HRP again?

[Piterplus]

All this troubles with uploading and downloading each time new pack could be avoided by using patchmaker.
Those who have already old pack will have to download only patch, this saving bandwidth of filehosters. Patchmaker will compare the packs and extract only the difference between old and new pack and make file executable (patch itself).

[Parkar]

Unfortunatly in this version its not quiet that easy, my estimation is that about 5-30% of the textures in the old one is exactly the same in the new one. They have been re palettiezed(using bright), recompressed(using pngcrush) and some have been turned into jpg.

We will see about using patches later on when not almost every single file has changed.

One good side effect about this is that the new one will only be about 2megs bigger in size and still have better quality(less artifacts on 8bit png textures) and more content.

[Piterplus]

Parkar said:
Maybe using bittorrent or something similar is an option to consider.

I propose to use emule . This way its enough to release just one or two copies into the network and after short time all pack will be dispersed widely. I myself downloaded several first packs this way (long time ago)
And it much more user friendly and widely known than bittorrent.
After releasing it just post edonkey (common format) link here.

[Renegado]

Search in emule (or edonkey2000) for "dn3d_hrp.exe", there's already 7 sources. I've also being sharing the light version for some time

Anyways, here are the e-links:
dn3d_hrp.exe

dn3d_hrp_light-31jan05.exe

[Jokke_r]

piterplus said:

I propose to use emule . This way its enough to release just one or two copies into the network and after short time all pack will be dispersed widely. I myself downloaded several first packs this way (long time ago)
And it much more user friendly and widely known than bittorrent.
After releasing it just post edonkey (common format) link here.

actually you are wrong, bittorrent is more user friendly and more widely known, i'v seen a graph that measured the internet activity and that month when they measured a huge percentage like 20+% was bittorrent activity.

just begin with hosting the file on you computers and then just release the torrent file which is only couple of kb large which then everyone can download and then the bittorrent client will connect to the people who have the files and the file will spread incredibly fast cos you will be uploading and downloading the same file at the same time.

[Parkar]

emule more user friendly? It must have got far better then last time I tried it. It was a pain to download anything using it. Most of the time my speed was below 5kb/s on a 10mbit fiber connection. It sure is a bit better then its predecessor edinkey were you needed to find a good server etc.

Bittorrent is the smothest peer to peer downloading method I have ever tried. It just works and speeds are almost always pretty good(from 5 - 500kb/s for me on 10/1 mbit adsl). Its as easy to use as emule just download a file and double clik it, with firefox its eaven easier, just download and when its done press launch. Just as with emule you only need to have one seed to start with and it will spread. If we make a torrent for it I'll probably be seeding it as long as my comp is on(~24/h a day).

[Plagman]

Remember that you don't just have to seed the torrent, you have to host a tracker too.

[Parkar]

There is plenty of trackers around that could be used.

[December Man]

Well I don't know when you last time used emule Parkar, but it's MUCH faster than you say. It must have been a really old version you used.

[Parkar]

It was when it was first made about (wild guess) 3-4 yers ago. Used it for a few months before givning up on it. It was way easier to use then edonky were you neede to connect to master servers but it did not work al that good. Any way since renegado put up the first pack I guess it'll be on emule rather quickly.

[Semicharm]

December Man said:
Well I don't know when you last time used emule Parkar, but it's MUCH faster than you say. It must have been a really old version you used.

I get on the edonkey network from time to time and it's that slow. Sometimes I can get 10-15KB download, but that's with 4 or 5 peers connected. It's ususally under 5KB if anything at all.

One time I even downloaded the exact same 400MB file from both edonkey and bittorrent at the same time. Bittorrent finished the download with ~100 known peers in < 4 hours. In the same time I only downloaded 0.3% of the file with over 500 known edonkey peers. I think that says it all.

[Ding Bat]

Niether link works for me.

Renegado said:
Search in emule (or edonkey2000) for "dn3d_hrp.exe", there's already 7 sources. I've also being sharing the light version for some time

Anyways, here are the e-links:
<a href="ed2k://|file|dn3d_hrp.exe|79562301|7bad74f236b7ed36fe92ff 309aa164b5|" target="_blank">dn3d_hrp.exe</a>

<a href="ed2k://|file|dn3d_hrp_light-31jan05.exe|25783118|d474fc9c00c7df485df6d5ec11748 f81|" target="_blank">dn3d_hrp_light-31jan05.exe</a>

[Kev_Hectic]

Parkar said:
Bittorrent is the smothest peer to peer downloading method I have ever tried. It just works and speeds are almost always pretty good(from 5 - 500kb/s for me on 10/1 mbit adsl). Its as easy to use as emule just download a file and double clik it, with firefox its eaven easier, just download and when its done press launch. Just as with emule you only need to have one seed to start with and it will spread. If we make a torrent for it I'll probably be seeding it as long as my comp is on(~24/h a day).

Shareaza is a good client for torrent files. I've been finding that the downloading speeds on it are excellent.

[Towelie2k4]

Bittorent would probably be the best way to go.

Emule is good for people that use it all the time, that way you get a high priority on everyone elses list. If a new user downloads emule just to get the HRP, they'll probably only get around 5-10 kbps. I also find that new users waste a lot of uploading space with very little downloading.

If bittorent was used, anyone could jump on and get speeds of 15kbps+ with no trouble. Albeit, that depends on how many people are seeding/leeching at the time, but judging on the HRP poularity it should be okay. Uploading is also a lot less, probably only a quarter of the total file size. BT, as has already been said, is a lot more user friendly; open it, tell it where to download, and your set!

[Another Duke Fan]

Bit Torrent owns them all.

[Odin]

Hey, sorry I left for a while.

Anyways, when will the new GRP (the second one) be released? Or if it has been, where can I get it?

[Parkar]

It should have been out alreay but its going slowly.

[ADM]

BitTorrent link up:
http://www.filerush.com/download.php...t=dn3d_hrp.exe

Need seeders though.. so anyone who has good upload speeds and enough time can you please seed it?

Just open the torrent and point it to your completed high res pack file.

[Another Duke Fan]

Great job! Do not need it for myself, but I am seeding it as we speak - 3 uploads at a time with avrg. of 10 Kb/s.

P.S. Uploaded 7.5 MB only and noone seems to take it anymore?? I`ll leave it open for a while....

This the same one I already have, right?

In the past day or so there wasn't a sudden new pack I somehow missed!?!?!??

[Parkar]

Its the old one, I am trying to get a hold of killd since he is making the installer for the new one. If I can't get ahold of him today I'll start making the installer my self and release.

Seeding the file btw, no downloaders though.

[ADM]

Yeah I'm always seeding as well.. no downloaders at the moment, but it'll always run if they are any

You only upload if there are downloaders (of course :P) so it's a good idea to just leave it always seeding just incase

It's only been downloaded 3 times.. but I'll add it to the source portal page in a sec so people can download it if they haven't already.

Parkar said:
Its the old one, I am trying to get a hold of killd since he is making the installer for the new one. If I can't get ahold of him today I'll start making the installer my self and release.

Seeding the file btw, no downloaders though.

I'll bet the new file will be seriously downloaded though.

[Parkar]

Yea since the pack is a bit more known now and it will probably be announced on more new sites etc. It having its own webpage with screenshots and other info will probably help to.

[ADM]

Yeah BT will definitely be ideal then.