Swp updated. - Page 9

hightreason · 11-26-2008, 08:41 AM

yeah, i dont have that issue, but it'd be good if i could get hold of the source for SWP, i'd be able to poke it about and see if i could somehow find why it crashes on your machine. it'd be nice to see .ogg support in the future too.

Hendricks266 · 11-26-2008, 12:10 PM

ProASM and TerminX both let the release of source code lag behind the snapshots. However, by requesting it, they must release it under the GPL.

At least the part covered by the GPL, anyway. The BUILDLIC part can be held hostage for all it says.

filipetolhuizen · 11-26-2008, 01:14 PM

I don't know why I always had this issue with 3 different machines I ran it.
Pentium IV 1.5, Geforce 3, 256MB RAM, Win98
Pentium IV 3.4 HT, Geforce 6800, 1GB RAM, WinXP SP2
Core2Quad 2.4, Geforce 8800GTX, 2GB RAM, WinXP SP3

In all of them I had exactly the same issue.

ProAsm · 11-26-2008, 01:20 PM

This particular section is in the build engine (polymost.c) and one needs to be carefull in screwing with this code as it effects Duke3dw as well.

*edit*
filipetolhuizen, did you ever try disabling the hardware acceleration for your sound card.
90% of build engine crashes are caused by sound card incompatibilities.

filipetolhuizen · 11-26-2008, 01:55 PM

Yes I did, even lowering sound quality to the lowest possible, but that didn't help either. But as I told you, that's another kind of crash, that one due to overheating I fixed by adding extra fans to my case and cleaning the dust in my card's vent. This one makes the game to stop responding and crash back to the desktop, but it's fixed if the usegoodalpha is set to 0.

Hendricks266 · 11-26-2008, 03:37 PM

Perhaps the updated alpha blending from EDuke32 should be ported over to SWP.

filiptolhuizen, do you get the same crashes in Duke3DW and EDuke32?

filipetolhuizen · 11-26-2008, 05:34 PM

Hendricks, these crashes don't happen in Duke3DW or EDuke32 at all.

ProAsm · 11-27-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hendricks266

Perhaps the updated alpha blending from EDuke32 should be ported over to SWP.

Not possible at this stage, anyways it not needed.

filipetolhuizen · 11-27-2008, 06:22 PM

Anyway, it's not that serious, if I can run the game without noticeable sacrifice in quality.

ProAsm · 12-17-2008, 03:04 PM

SWP updated to 4.1.0

Fixed verticle dots in crosshair when in 8 bit mode.
Added Crosshair options.
Added Texture compression options.
Fixed Anisotropy not clearing.
Fixed mapname.mid sometimes not loading.

http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/swp410.zip

Also many changes to SWPStartup 2.2.
http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/SwpStartup22.zip

hightreason · 12-18-2008, 07:00 AM

Nice, i definitely like the new SWPStartup

NightFright · 12-27-2008, 06:49 AM

Great work with the port. I am glad there's still progress here. Right now, SWP for SW is what EDuke32 is for Duke3D. ProAsm's commitment to keeping this up-to-date is remarkable and praiseworthy.

abnormal · 01-01-2009, 08:44 PM

ok, I got a strange problem w/ swpbuild. The program wont let me save my map. i tweak something here or there, change the starting postition and it wont save. what the heck is going on?

hightreason · 01-01-2009, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abnormal

ok, I got a strange problem w/ swpbuild. The program wont let me save my map. i tweak something here or there, change the starting postition and it wont save. what the heck is going on?

Have you tried "Save As" and using the same name, this is the only way i got it to save, but i never mentioned it because i put it down to my computer being so crap.

abnormal · 01-02-2009, 10:44 AM

yeah, the save as werks, but still thats highly irritating.

ProAsm · 01-02-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abnormal

ok, I got a strange problem w/ swpbuild. The program wont let me save my map. i tweak something here or there, change the starting postition and it wont save. what the heck is going on?

Yes, I know about this and will fix it when I get time.
The map gets backed up to mapname.bak which you can rename and use.
Best is for now just use the Save As.

abnormal · 01-05-2009, 12:12 PM

Ive never really tried uploading my own sounds in shadow warrior. I know how to make lo wang walk in a area and say somethin that already came with the game. But I wanna upload my own audio clips. for 1 play or continous background noise. how do I attepmt such a feat?

Hendricks266 · 01-05-2009, 03:06 PM

You have to replace existing sounds in order to get new sounds to work. Unless, of course, ProAsm works some SW ninja-magic.

ProAsm, here are some MIDIs from the other Asian BUILD game, Legend of the Seven Paladins. They might work for some of the CD music that does not have corresponding MIDIs.

TerminX · 01-05-2009, 05:21 PM

Are those midis from the demo version or from the mysterious full version that's floating around?

abnormal · 01-07-2009, 04:51 PM

ok, i wanna enter a negative value in this sector im working on in build (like -1) how come it wont let me put in the minus? ive tried to hold down a few buttons and pressing minus and it aint werking. whats up?

hightreason · 01-08-2009, 05:04 PM

What are you trying to minus? a tag or something.

Try typing 65535 in and pressing enter. You will then see it turn into -1. It continues like this so far e.g. 65534 is -2 and 65533 is -3 and so on.
Occasionally, if this doesnt work, try using 255 and seeing if thaty works.
But yes, most of the time, use 65535 for -1

abnormal · 01-08-2009, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hightreason

What are you trying to minus? a tag or something.

Try typing 65535 in and pressing enter. You will then see it turn into -1. It continues like this so far e.g. 65534 is -2 and 65533 is -3 and so on.
Occasionally, if this doesnt work, try using 255 and seeing if thaty works.
But yes, most of the time, use 65535 for -1

I love you.

TerminX · 01-08-2009, 06:34 PM

You have to type in the number as a positive value, and then hit - to negate it. It's a bit counter-intuitive, but you get used to it.

abnormal · 01-09-2009, 04:04 PM

OK, lets say i make a plane with a few sectors. i wanna make this plane travel some distance by flicking a switch. Im not sure how all the track stuff werks. any faqs out there that im not aware of that can fill me in here?

-Nevermind.

Martin Howe · 01-15-2009, 05:44 PM

Been too busy to play many games in the last year or so so nice to see SWP continues and improves. OK, here's the "but"

SWP doesn't seem to "like" opening maps located in zip files mounted with Psimo Technic's file system driver for zip files. Pity Ontrack didn't maintain Mijenix ZipMagic - then again, perhaps SWP is doing something odd?

Command line:

Quote:

D:\Documents\My FPS Games\Games\SW\FV12>swp /j"D:\Documents\My FPS Archives\localhost\swarrior\bensmit\mappacks\Sw-Maps-SP-220.zip\Maps" -map alienbas.map

Log file:

Quote:

Initialising Windows DirectX/GDI system interface
OS: Windows Vista (Version 6.0.6001)
- Service Pack 1
Loading OPENGL32.DLL
Initialising DirectDraw...
- Loading DDRAW.DLL
- Enumerating display devices
* Primary Display Driver
- Creating DirectDraw object
- Checking capabilities
SHADOW WARRIOR(tm) Version 1.2
Copyright (c) 1997 3D Realms Entertainment

SWP - Version 4.1.0 - Revision 331.128

Detected registered Grp
Adding Grp file: sw.grp
Added search path: D:/Documents/My FPS Archives/localhost/swarrior/bensmit/mappacks/Sw-Maps-SP-220.zip/Maps/
Fatal Signal caught: SIGSEGV. Bailing out.
Uninitialising DirectDraw...
- Releasing DirectDraw object
- Unloading DDRAW.DLL

Anything I can do to help track it down? Eg., extra debugging options I can try using on the command line?

ProAsm · 01-16-2009, 04:46 AM

If you want to use a map inside a zip file then the zip file must be regarded as a group file:

Code:

/jD:\Documents\My FPS Archives\localhost\swarrior\bensmit\mappacks -gSw-Maps-SP-220.zip -map alienbas.map

Also loose the " quotes after the /j

Martin Howe · 01-16-2009, 12:32 PM

Sure, but what about the Maps subdirectory inside the zip file?

In any case, surely grp/zip is a red herring in this case? After all, this isn't the half-a$$ed Microsoft shell level zipfolders inplementation. It is an NTFS filesystem-level device driver that makes the zipfile transparently appear as an ordinary directory when mounted - even to command-line programs.

SWP shouldn't even be able to tell that the archive is "really" a file and not a directory

Unless, of course, it doesn't check for directories that have extensions in the name, tut tut

ProAsm · 02-14-2009, 09:27 AM

SWP updated to 4.1.1

Fixed menu problems when using shareware grp file.

http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/swp411.zip

ProAsm · 03-01-2009, 02:58 AM

SWP/Build Source Code Update

For those interested parties I have updated the released sourcecode to 4.1.0
It now also includes the SWP changes to the Build source code.
Changed SWP files now have different date/time stamp.
All initial comments have now also been left in.

http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/SwpSrc41.zip

TerminX · 03-01-2009, 03:50 AM

Why would you release source older than your current build?

Hendricks266 · 03-01-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Howe

Sure, but what about the Maps subdirectory inside the zip file?

Code:

swp /jD:\Documents\My FPS Archives\localhost\swarrior\bensmit\mappacks -gSw-Maps-SP-220.zip -map Maps\alienbas.map

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Howe

In any case, surely grp/zip is a red herring in this case? After all, this isn't the half-a$$ed Microsoft shell level zipfolders inplementation. It is an NTFS filesystem-level device driver that makes the zipfile transparently appear as an ordinary directory when mounted - even to command-line programs.

SWP shouldn't even be able to tell that the archive is "really" a file and not a directory

Unless, of course, it doesn't check for directories that have extensions in the name, tut tut

That feature isn't really "seamless". You really can't do much except copy files out of the .zip. Even that is relatively slow. You are better off extracting them with 7-Zip or using the proper method of map loading.

ProAsm · 03-01-2009, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TerminX

Why would you release source older than your current build?

The current build (4.1.1) is more a beta than anything else and the change is so small and only effects the shareware game.

Hendricks266 · 03-01-2009, 06:58 PM

Ah. In that case, why not alter your version system?

I suggest that you release the source every time "b" changes in this formula: a.b.c

However c can go from 9 to 10, like 4.0.10. a is for major revisions, b is for milestones, and c is for new releases.

ProAsm · 03-02-2009, 03:11 AM

Thats how it is atm.
Basically a.b.0 is the final and anything from a.b.1 to a.b.9 is a beta

Martin Howe · 03-23-2009, 03:59 PM

Here's an odd thing - SWP 4.11 detecting shareware SW as full. The log below is from a fresh copy of SW shareware 1.2 and swp 4.11.

Edit: (The regular sw.exe -- run in DosBox -- identifies it correctly as shareware.)

Spoiler:

ProAsm · 03-24-2009, 10:27 AM

Ouch.. and that on the forum.
411 removed.
This is a code bug and always wondered why the routine was bypassed.
Anyway have re-written the whole function in 412.
Thanks for the headsup.

ProAsm · 04-01-2009, 02:32 PM

Update SWP to 4.1.2

Lotsa new stuff

1. Fixed shareware detection bug.
2. Added commandline -music filename from Music folder.

Example: Swp.exe -music Whatever.mid -map Mymap.map
Should an Mp3, Ogg or some other type of music be selected this will open in Winplayer or whatever media you have chosen to play your music.
Using SwpStartup v2.4 will work nicely with this option.

3. Added an Autosave option. (Off, Auto, Manual)
In Auto mode the game will be saved to gamex.asv everytime you pick up health or Armour.
This can be loaded via F9 or any of the loadgame options.
Pressing F5 will do a 'manual' Autosave and is all that is available in the Manual option.

4. Fixed several game prompts.
5. Replaced F4 Sound with Options Menu.
6. Added Saved Game Map info option.

Basically with any new saved games, the map played for that game will now be displayed.
Older saved games will still be compatible but mapnames will be displayed as N/A.

http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/Swp412.zip

Updated SwpSetup.exe and SwpStartup.exe with all new stuff and many extras.
Sorted many bugs out also.

http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/SwpStartup24.zip

Also updated Playwang with new -music selection option.

Another Duke Fan · 04-01-2009, 04:54 PM

Thank you for keeping the great job ProAsm!

hightreason · 04-01-2009, 05:01 PM

yes, thank you ProASM.
I'll check the new version out soon.

Martin Howe · 04-02-2009, 03:27 AM

Likewise

Hey, don't feel too bad about the shareware thing - there was a problem discovered a while back in a Doom source port that manifested itself occasionally -- it turned out to be something from the original source that id Software "forgot"

11-26-2008, 08:41 AM	#321
hightreason	Re: Swp updated. yeah, i dont have that issue, but it'd be good if i could get hold of the source for SWP, i'd be able to poke it about and see if i could somehow find why it crashes on your machine. it'd be nice to see .ogg support in the future too. __________________ High Treason (My Website) (Second Site) (My YouTube) Punk's not dead - and nor is Duke! Ever get the feeling you are being ignored?

11-26-2008, 12:10 PM	#322
Hendricks266	Re: Swp updated. ProASM and TerminX both let the release of source code lag behind the snapshots. However, by requesting it, they must release it under the GPL. At least the part covered by the GPL, anyway. The BUILDLIC part can be held hostage for all it says.

11-26-2008, 01:14 PM	#323
filipetolhuizen	Re: Swp updated. I don't know why I always had this issue with 3 different machines I ran it. Pentium IV 1.5, Geforce 3, 256MB RAM, Win98 Pentium IV 3.4 HT, Geforce 6800, 1GB RAM, WinXP SP2 Core2Quad 2.4, Geforce 8800GTX, 2GB RAM, WinXP SP3 In all of them I had exactly the same issue.

11-26-2008, 01:20 PM	#324
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. This particular section is in the build engine (polymost.c) and one needs to be carefull in screwing with this code as it effects Duke3dw as well. edit filipetolhuizen, did you ever try disabling the hardware acceleration for your sound card. 90% of build engine crashes are caused by sound card incompatibilities. __________________ http://www.proasm.com Last edited by ProAsm; 11-26-2008 at 01:24 PM.

11-26-2008, 01:55 PM	#325
filipetolhuizen	Re: Swp updated. Yes I did, even lowering sound quality to the lowest possible, but that didn't help either. But as I told you, that's another kind of crash, that one due to overheating I fixed by adding extra fans to my case and cleaning the dust in my card's vent. This one makes the game to stop responding and crash back to the desktop, but it's fixed if the usegoodalpha is set to 0.

11-26-2008, 03:37 PM	#326
Hendricks266	Re: Swp updated. Perhaps the updated alpha blending from EDuke32 should be ported over to SWP. filiptolhuizen, do you get the same crashes in Duke3DW and EDuke32?

11-26-2008, 05:34 PM	#327
filipetolhuizen	Re: Swp updated. Hendricks, these crashes don't happen in Duke3DW or EDuke32 at all.

11-27-2008, 06:22 PM	#329
filipetolhuizen	Re: Swp updated. Anyway, it's not that serious, if I can run the game without noticeable sacrifice in quality.

12-17-2008, 03:04 PM	#330
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. SWP updated to 4.1.0 Fixed verticle dots in crosshair when in 8 bit mode. Added Crosshair options. Added Texture compression options. Fixed Anisotropy not clearing. Fixed mapname.mid sometimes not loading. http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/swp410.zip Also many changes to SWPStartup 2.2. http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/SwpStartup22.zip __________________ http://www.proasm.com

12-18-2008, 07:00 AM	#331
hightreason	Re: Swp updated. Nice, i definitely like the new SWPStartup __________________ High Treason (My Website) (Second Site) (My YouTube) Punk's not dead - and nor is Duke! Ever get the feeling you are being ignored?

12-27-2008, 06:49 AM	#332
NightFright	Re: Swp updated. Great work with the port. I am glad there's still progress here. Right now, SWP for SW is what EDuke32 is for Duke3D. ProAsm's commitment to keeping this up-to-date is remarkable and praiseworthy. __________________ Duke3D HRP Update Pack Duke3D HRP Wiki To-Do List Last edited by NightFright; 12-27-2008 at 06:54 AM.

01-01-2009, 08:44 PM	#333
abnormal	Re: Swp updated. ok, I got a strange problem w/ swpbuild. The program wont let me save my map. i tweak something here or there, change the starting postition and it wont save. what the heck is going on? __________________ Rodney Dangerfield - A girl phoned me the other day and said "Come on over, there's nobody home." I went over. Nobody was home.

01-02-2009, 10:44 AM	#335
abnormal	Re: Swp updated. yeah, the save as werks, but still thats highly irritating. __________________ Rodney Dangerfield - A girl phoned me the other day and said "Come on over, there's nobody home." I went over. Nobody was home.

01-05-2009, 12:12 PM	#337
abnormal	Re: Swp updated. Ive never really tried uploading my own sounds in shadow warrior. I know how to make lo wang walk in a area and say somethin that already came with the game. But I wanna upload my own audio clips. for 1 play or continous background noise. how do I attepmt such a feat? __________________ Rodney Dangerfield - A girl phoned me the other day and said "Come on over, there's nobody home." I went over. Nobody was home.

01-05-2009, 05:21 PM	#339
TerminX	Re: Swp updated. Are those midis from the demo version or from the mysterious full version that's floating around? __________________ EDuke32 \| Duke4.net forums, the largest Duke Nukem 3D community on the Internet Visit #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!

01-07-2009, 04:51 PM	#340
abnormal	Re: Swp updated. ok, i wanna enter a negative value in this sector im working on in build (like -1) how come it wont let me put in the minus? ive tried to hold down a few buttons and pressing minus and it aint werking. whats up? __________________ Rodney Dangerfield - A girl phoned me the other day and said "Come on over, there's nobody home." I went over. Nobody was home.

01-08-2009, 05:04 PM	#341
hightreason	Re: Swp updated. What are you trying to minus? a tag or something. Try typing 65535 in and pressing enter. You will then see it turn into -1. It continues like this so far e.g. 65534 is -2 and 65533 is -3 and so on. Occasionally, if this doesnt work, try using 255 and seeing if thaty works. But yes, most of the time, use 65535 for -1 __________________ High Treason (My Website) (Second Site) (My YouTube) Punk's not dead - and nor is Duke! Ever get the feeling you are being ignored?

01-08-2009, 06:34 PM	#343
TerminX	Re: Swp updated. You have to type in the number as a positive value, and then hit - to negate it. It's a bit counter-intuitive, but you get used to it. __________________ EDuke32 \| Duke4.net forums, the largest Duke Nukem 3D community on the Internet Visit #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!

01-09-2009, 04:04 PM	#344
abnormal	Re: Swp updated. OK, lets say i make a plane with a few sectors. i wanna make this plane travel some distance by flicking a switch. Im not sure how all the track stuff werks. any faqs out there that im not aware of that can fill me in here? -Nevermind. __________________ Rodney Dangerfield - A girl phoned me the other day and said "Come on over, there's nobody home." I went over. Nobody was home. Last edited by abnormal; 01-09-2009 at 06:38 PM.

01-16-2009, 04:46 AM	#346
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. If you want to use a map inside a zip file then the zip file must be regarded as a group file: Code: /jD:\Documents\My FPS Archives\localhost\swarrior\bensmit\mappacks -gSw-Maps-SP-220.zip -map alienbas.map Also loose the " quotes after the /j __________________ http://www.proasm.com

01-16-2009, 12:32 PM	#347
Martin Howe	Re: Swp updated. Sure, but what about the Maps subdirectory inside the zip file? In any case, surely grp/zip is a red herring in this case? After all, this isn't the half-a$$ed Microsoft shell level zipfolders inplementation. It is an NTFS filesystem-level device driver that makes the zipfile *transparently* appear as an ordinary directory when mounted - even to command-line programs. SWP shouldn't even be able to tell that the archive is "really" a file and not a directory Unless, of course, it doesn't check for directories that have extensions in the name, tut tut __________________ In space, no-one can hear you KILL an ALIEN Website Facebook Flickr Twitter

02-14-2009, 09:27 AM	#348
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. SWP updated to 4.1.1 Fixed menu problems when using shareware grp file. http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/swp411.zip __________________ http://www.proasm.com

03-01-2009, 02:58 AM	#349
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. SWP/Build Source Code Update For those interested parties I have updated the released sourcecode to 4.1.0 It now also includes the SWP changes to the Build source code. Changed SWP files now have different date/time stamp. All initial comments have now also been left in. http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/SwpSrc41.zip __________________ http://www.proasm.com

03-01-2009, 03:50 AM	#350
TerminX	Re: Swp updated. Why would you release source older than your current build? __________________ EDuke32 \| Duke4.net forums, the largest Duke Nukem 3D community on the Internet Visit #eduke32 on irc.freenode.net!

03-01-2009, 06:58 PM	#353
Hendricks266	Re: Swp updated. Ah. In that case, why not alter your version system? I suggest that you release the source every time "b" changes in this formula: a.b.c However c can go from 9 to 10, like 4.0.10. a is for major revisions, b is for milestones, and c is for new releases.

03-02-2009, 03:11 AM	#354
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. Thats how it is atm. Basically a.b.0 is the final and anything from a.b.1 to a.b.9 is a beta __________________ http://www.proasm.com

03-24-2009, 10:27 AM	#356
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. Ouch.. and that on the forum. 411 removed. This is a code bug and always wondered why the routine was bypassed. Anyway have re-written the whole function in 412. Thanks for the headsup. __________________ http://www.proasm.com

04-01-2009, 02:32 PM	#357
ProAsm	Re: Swp updated. Update SWP to 4.1.2 Lotsa new stuff 1. Fixed shareware detection bug. 2. Added commandline -music filename from Music folder. Example: Swp.exe -music Whatever.mid -map Mymap.map Should an Mp3, Ogg or some other type of music be selected this will open in Winplayer or whatever media you have chosen to play your music. Using SwpStartup v2.4 will work nicely with this option. 3. Added an Autosave option. (Off, Auto, Manual) In Auto mode the game will be saved to gamex.asv everytime you pick up health or Armour. This can be loaded via F9 or any of the loadgame options. Pressing F5 will do a 'manual' Autosave and is all that is available in the Manual option. 4. Fixed several game prompts. 5. Replaced F4 Sound with Options Menu. 6. Added Saved Game Map info option. Basically with any new saved games, the map played for that game will now be displayed. Older saved games will still be compatible but mapnames will be displayed as N/A. http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/Swp412.zip Updated SwpSetup.exe and SwpStartup.exe with all new stuff and many extras. Sorted many bugs out also. http://www.proasm.com/files/sw/SwpStartup24.zip Also updated Playwang with new -music selection option. __________________ http://www.proasm.com

04-01-2009, 04:54 PM	#358
Another Duke Fan	Re: Swp updated. Thank you for keeping the great job ProAsm! __________________ アーティスト

04-01-2009, 05:01 PM	#359
hightreason	Re: Swp updated. yes, thank you ProASM. I'll check the new version out soon. __________________ High Treason (My Website) (Second Site) (My YouTube) Punk's not dead - and nor is Duke! Ever get the feeling you are being ignored?