More Prey Forums

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 02:34 PM

I'm going to be setting up the other Prey forums shortly. I had been planning on replicating the structure we have for the Max Payne Forums. That is:

Prey General (this forum)
Prey Gameplay & Strategy
Prey Mods
Prey Technical Information

I'm throwing it out here to see if anyone has any good ideas as to some other Prey forum that might be needed. If you have an idea to post, please give some thought as to whether it will fit under one of these four above.

Thoughts?

Zizz · 06-09-2006, 02:43 PM

Prey Level design

SyntaxN · 06-09-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizz

Prey Level design

Maybe the Mod forum should just be called Prey Level design&Mods

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zizz

Prey Level design

That would fall under mods.

06-09-2006, 02:50 PM

Storyline discussion. Basically spoiler territory.

-Maniac

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Maniac536

Storyline discussion. Basically spoiler territory.

-Maniac

The whole thing will be spoilers - if you don't wanna know, better stay off the forums until you've finished the game.

Anyway, that would fall under Gameplay.

crunchy superman · 06-09-2006, 02:55 PM

Everything I can think of would fall under those, or at least sub-categories of those forums.

Good enough, IMO.

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by crunchy superman

Everything I can think of would fall under those, or at least sub-categories of those forums.

Good enough, IMO.

I was thinking it was, but I threw this out there in case someone had an idea I couldn't think of.

Zizz · 06-09-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

That would fall under mods.

I though you planned it like that. But level design can be such a broad topic, blending it with mods will make it hard to overview.

But im happy with it wathever. =) Would it be possible to seperate them with colors or tags maybe?

Micki! · 06-09-2006, 02:59 PM

Could there be need of a seperate forum of the X360 version..? Just to keep out PC stuff and such, which doesn't necessarily have anything in common with each other... But i believe, this could also just be part of the General Prey forums..?

I assume Prey's music is also part of the "Prey General" forum..!

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Micki!

Could there be need of a seperate forum of the X360 version..? Just to keep out PC stuff and such, which doesn't necessarily have anything in common with each other... But i believe, this could also just be part of the General Prey forums..?

I'm not sure a seperate forum is needed for the 360 version. Mods/editing won't apply, gameplay is the same (except for input method). Tech support would be the only issue where it'd be really different - but said differences would be obvious.

I'm not sure it really needs to be seperated out like that - unless someone can give me a real good compelling reason as to why it should be that way.

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I assume Prey's music is also part of the "Prey General" forum..!

Yes.

Micki! · 06-09-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

I'm not sure it really needs to be seperated out like that - unless someone can give me a real good compelling reason as to why it should be that way.

I currently only had maps in mind...
People shouldn't confuse some community maps to be for both versions... (say, a map for the PC version, shouldn't be confused to be for the X360 or both versions)

(But, is custom level editing for the X360 even possible..?)

But i don't think this is a big deal... But maybe there would pop up occations, which could need a seperate section... But that has yet to happen first though...
Unless of course, if anyone else can come with a good reason beforehand...

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 03:10 PM

Well, I've created the new subforums - they're in place now, but closed.

Damien_Azreal · 06-09-2006, 03:10 PM

I think a PREY 360 sub-forum would be handy. It might cut down on any PC Vs. Console debates.
But then again, we might never get into those. But I remember in the Doom / HL2 forums when the Xbox versions came out... a lot of bitching.

Micki! · 06-09-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

I think a PREY 360 sub-forum would be handy. It might cut down on any PC Vs. Console debates.
But then again, we might never get into those. But I remember in the Doom / HL2 forums when the Xbox versions came out... a lot of bitching.

You've got a point there...
I'm tired of those kinds of discussions... This might cut down possible fights...

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 03:13 PM

One of my forum rules is "console vs pc" discussions are no no for that reason. I wouldn't allow pissing matches over that anyway.

Still, I created one, we'll see how it goes.

SyntaxN · 06-09-2006, 03:15 PM

imo an extra subforum for the 360 version isn´t necessary, I guess there won´t be many threads that couldn´t be in the general Prey forum. When a 360 user has a problem like *Prey makes my console restart* then he can post that in the tech support forum.

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SyntaxN

imo an extra subforum for the 360 version isn´t necessary, I guess there won´t be many threads that couldn´t be in the general Prey forum. When a 360 user has a problem like *Prey makes my console restart* then he can post that in the tech support forum.

That's kind of what I was thinking. Still, they're not going to be open for posting until closer till the demo comes out anyway.

Damien_Azreal · 06-09-2006, 03:21 PM

After the demo we'll see how much attention the seperate forums get, and if one isn't going well Joe can always cut it.

So no harm either way.

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

After the demo we'll see how much attention the seperate forums get, and if one isn't going well Joe can always cut it.

So no harm either way.

Yeah, if it's too weak, I'll merge/seperate as demand goes.

Robertje · 06-09-2006, 04:12 PM

Maybe a forum dedicated for server support?

Joe Siegler · 06-09-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Robertje

Maybe a forum dedicated for server support?

What do you mean? I'd see that under Tech Support.

Lez · 06-09-2006, 04:39 PM

oh you have tech, silly me.
Well its nice to see you have a mod section, should help us drum up some support and extra team members for our mod.
Ta.

However I think you've coverd all the bases, unless you want an off topic.

ADM · 06-09-2006, 06:34 PM

Yeah not too sure about the seperate 360 forum. The others are good though

Maybe instead of a 360 forum just have a topic in the tech info forum asking for people to clarify which version they have in their posts.

Fenda · 06-10-2006, 03:16 AM

How about a Multiprey spot, like for Clans to recruit or people to post that they're looking to play with others online?

ADM · 06-10-2006, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fenda

How about a Multiprey spot, like for Clans to recruit or people to post that they're looking to play with others online?

That can be posted in Prey General.

06-10-2006, 03:49 PM

A demo exclusive forum could work. Of course, it would be only useful post-full version release.

-Maniac

hell-angel · 06-12-2006, 12:52 AM

The 360 forums will also be good for 360 technical issues, a lot of forums have those seperate for PC and Console games.
Other then that I can't really think of a reason (unless we want the 360 people out of our way.

) <-- that was a joke for those that didn't get it.

Robertje · 06-12-2006, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

What do you mean? I'd see that under Tech Support.

In my opinion there's a significant difference between client and server technical issues. Of course, as I have no idea how the dedicated server files will look like until release date, I might be wrong. I'll try to illustrate it with an example.

A very common technical support question related to client software can be for example that 'sound is not working', or 'graphic issues' or a 'lost savegame'. Server software related questions sound like 'how do i disable friendly fire on my server', 'server crashes', or 'how many players can I host', etc. In my opinion, these two types of questions are not only slightly different, they are also asked by different types of users. Many times, a server admin does use his game in a different way than users that just click in the server browser and join a game (or do not play mulitplayer at all).

Personally, I like the structure on this forum as it seperates the threads by their subject in a clear way and it gives visitors the oppurtunity to look in the subforums they are interested in (or should post to, if they want to start a thread). Maybe there's something you can use from its structure.

Any questions just let me know.

hell-angel · 06-12-2006, 06:01 AM

Those forums robertje look generally the same as these, only Joe limited the dept of the visible forums a little.

They are not open yet anyway so they can be relocated anyway.

Robertje · 06-12-2006, 06:55 AM

The main purpose of my reply to Joe is to outline the difference between client- and serverside issues. The 'missing' of my suggested subforum is (for me) the most important difference between the subforums here and my example

hell-angel · 06-12-2006, 07:13 AM

Ah ok, I guess I was reading the context of the word structure wrong.

Joe Siegler · 06-12-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Robertje

The main purpose of my reply to Joe is to outline the difference between client- and serverside issues. The 'missing' of my suggested subforum is (for me) the most important difference between the subforums here and my example

But they're both "technical" issues. I see no distinction.

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Personally, I like the structure on this forum as it seperates the threads by their subject in a clear way and it gives visitors the oppurtunity to look in the subforums they are interested in

It's a layout issue. The way I have it structured, is you click on "Prey", and then you see the descriptions of the subforums like you ask. This has worked for Max Payne, I never got a single complaint about that forum layout, so I just replicated it here.

Besides, if it turns out to be a genuine interface problem later (and not just one person's dislike for the layout choice here), then I can adjust as need be. But I don't think it will be an issue at all.

Joe Siegler · 06-20-2006, 08:54 PM

Had a thought. With the game fresh out, I was thinking about having a forum dedicated towards setting up servers and meeting other forum members to hook up for games.

ZuljinRaynor · 06-20-2006, 09:05 PM

Great idea Joe.

ADM · 06-20-2006, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Had a thought. With the game fresh out, I was thinking about having a forum dedicated towards setting up servers and meeting other forum members to hook up for games.

I just fear having too many forums and having too many forums that also are very similar related so it'd be hard to tell which topic belongs where.

Make my job more difficult why don't ya

Seriously though is it needed? While it would be cool that sort of stuff can be posted in the General forum anyway. But I really don't like that 360 specific forum idea.

The way it is now (minus the 360 forum) is good but if you get rid of the 360 forum then you could have a Multiplayer forum I guess. Meetups and server setups etc.

dlind70 · 06-20-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ADM

The way it is now (minus the 360 forum) is good but if you get rid of the 360 forum then you could have a Multiplayer forum I guess. Meetups and server setups etc.

This makes perfect sense. As opposed to a 360 forum, have a multiplayer forum as it would cover meetups, sever setup, Xbox Live setup, game modes, and official maps that aren't mods.

hell-angel · 06-21-2006, 12:51 AM

The way it is now it seems perferct IMO:
General
Mods
technical
Multiplayer Meetups.

Maybe we need a spoiler section? Or do we think the spoiler tags are enough?

Joe Siegler · 06-21-2006, 08:12 AM

No spoiler section. EXPECT that everythign will be a spoiler.

If you don't want to know, don't come to the forums until you've finished the game.

hell-angel · 06-21-2006, 03:07 PM

Fair enough. Most people here should know when to use the spoiler tags.
I guess I was just worried about some of the newbies around here.

06-09-2006, 02:34 PM	#1
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	More Prey Forums I'm going to be setting up the other Prey forums shortly. I had been planning on replicating the structure we have for the Max Payne Forums. That is: Prey General (this forum) Prey Gameplay & Strategy Prey Mods Prey Technical Information I'm throwing it out here to see if anyone has any good ideas as to some other Prey forum that might be needed. If you have an idea to post, please give some thought as to whether it will fit under one of these four above. Thoughts? __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

06-09-2006, 02:50 PM	#5
Maniac536 Guest	Re: More Prey Forums Storyline discussion. Basically spoiler territory. -Maniac

06-09-2006, 03:10 PM	#13
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: More Prey Forums Well, I've created the new subforums - they're in place now, but closed. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

06-09-2006, 03:10 PM	#14
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: More Prey Forums I think a PREY 360 sub-forum would be handy. It might cut down on any PC Vs. Console debates. But then again, we might never get into those. But I remember in the Doom / HL2 forums when the Xbox versions came out... a lot of bitching. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

06-09-2006, 03:13 PM	#16
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: More Prey Forums One of my forum rules is "console vs pc" discussions are no no for that reason. I wouldn't allow pissing matches over that anyway. Still, I created one, we'll see how it goes. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

06-09-2006, 02:43 PM	#2
Zizz	Re: More Prey Forums Prey Level design __________________ Hot d3 mod!

06-09-2006, 02:55 PM	#7
crunchy superman	Re: More Prey Forums Everything I can think of would fall under those, or at least sub-categories of those forums. Good enough, IMO. __________________

06-09-2006, 02:59 PM	#10
Micki!	Re: More Prey Forums Could there be need of a seperate forum of the X360 version..? Just to keep out PC stuff and such, which doesn't necessarily have anything in common with each other... But i believe, this could also just be part of the General Prey forums..? I assume Prey's music is also part of the "Prey General" forum..! __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

06-09-2006, 03:15 PM	#17
SyntaxN	Re: More Prey Forums imo an extra subforum for the 360 version isn´t necessary, I guess there won´t be many threads that couldn´t be in the general Prey forum. When a 360 user has a problem like Prey makes my console restart then he can post that in the tech support forum.

06-09-2006, 03:21 PM	#19
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: More Prey Forums After the demo we'll see how much attention the seperate forums get, and if one isn't going well Joe can always cut it. So no harm either way. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

06-09-2006, 04:12 PM	#21
Robertje	Re: More Prey Forums Maybe a forum dedicated for server support? __________________ [SIZE="1"] Dedicated server config generator for Prey

06-09-2006, 04:39 PM	#23
Lez	Re: More Prey Forums oh you have tech, silly me. Well its nice to see you have a mod section, should help us drum up some support and extra team members for our mod. Ta. However I think you've coverd all the bases, unless you want an off topic. __________________ Halt! I know nade fu!

06-09-2006, 06:34 PM	#24
ADM	Re: More Prey Forums Yeah not too sure about the seperate 360 forum. The others are good though Maybe instead of a 360 forum just have a topic in the tech info forum asking for people to clarify which version they have in their posts.

06-10-2006, 03:16 AM	#25
Fenda	Re: More Prey Forums How about a Multiprey spot, like for Clans to recruit or people to post that they're looking to play with others online?

06-10-2006, 03:49 PM	#27
Maniac536 Guest	Re: More Prey Forums A demo exclusive forum could work. Of course, it would be only useful post-full version release. -Maniac

06-12-2006, 12:52 AM	#28
hell-angel	Re: More Prey Forums The 360 forums will also be good for 360 technical issues, a lot of forums have those seperate for PC and Console games. Other then that I can't really think of a reason (unless we want the 360 people out of our way. ) <-- that was a joke for those that didn't get it.

06-12-2006, 06:01 AM	#30
hell-angel	Re: More Prey Forums Those forums robertje look generally the same as these, only Joe limited the dept of the visible forums a little. They are not open yet anyway so they can be relocated anyway.

06-12-2006, 06:55 AM	#31
Robertje	Re: More Prey Forums The main purpose of my reply to Joe is to outline the difference between client- and serverside issues. The 'missing' of my suggested subforum is (for me) the most important difference between the subforums here and my example __________________ [SIZE="1"] Dedicated server config generator for Prey

06-12-2006, 07:13 AM	#32
hell-angel	Re: More Prey Forums Ah ok, I guess I was reading the context of the word structure wrong.

06-20-2006, 08:54 PM	#34
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: More Prey Forums Had a thought. With the game fresh out, I was thinking about having a forum dedicated towards setting up servers and meeting other forum members to hook up for games. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

06-20-2006, 09:05 PM	#35
ZuljinRaynor	Re: More Prey Forums Great idea Joe. __________________ My vision is augmented.

06-21-2006, 12:51 AM	#38
hell-angel	Re: More Prey Forums The way it is now it seems perferct IMO: General Mods technical Multiplayer Meetups. Maybe we need a spoiler section? Or do we think the spoiler tags are enough?

06-21-2006, 08:12 AM	#39
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: More Prey Forums No spoiler section. EXPECT that everythign will be a spoiler. If you don't want to know, don't come to the forums until you've finished the game. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

06-21-2006, 03:07 PM	#40
hell-angel	Re: More Prey Forums Fair enough. Most people here should know when to use the spoiler tags. I guess I was just worried about some of the newbies around here.