Duke3D on Xbox LIVE Arcade! - Page 7

Retodon8 · 02-07-2008, 10:27 AM

I already own some XBLA games due to special events (recent XBL downtime, game temporarily free to download, stuff like that), and a friend bought some games on my box, but it seems I'll be getting some actual Microsoft Points of my own somewhere in the future.

343 guiltyspark · 02-09-2008, 10:16 AM

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/850/850303p1.html

GODLY

ZuljinRaynor · 02-10-2008, 10:52 AM

I got to get another points card now.

Krid · 02-10-2008, 11:12 AM

Now I'm just curious if they're going to try to make the HRP available for the Live Arcade release, and which codebase they're going to use.

Did people ever agree on what license they wanted to use for their respective artwork? Will they be using polymost and the other various enhancements, or keeping the code as pure as they can?

Bushido · 02-13-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Krid

Now I'm just curious if they're going to try to make the HRP available for the Live Arcade release, and which codebase they're going to use.

Did people ever agree on what license they wanted to use for their respective artwork? Will they be using polymost and the other various enhancements, or keeping the code as pure as they can?

Well, a lot of XBLA games surpass 50mb (some are like 150mb) and there's always the option to release the HRP as a seperate download...

Joe Siegler · 02-13-2008, 12:21 PM

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Well, a lot of XBLA games surpass 50mb (some are like 150mb) and there's always the option to release the HRP as a seperate download...

I can't speak for George, but my personal guess is that we wouldn't touch HRP - it's not our product, and I don't think we'd want to release something under our name that wasn't our own work.

Bushido · 02-13-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

I can't speak for George, but my personal guess is that we wouldn't touch HRP - it's not our product, and I don't think we'd want to release something under our name that wasn't our own work.

Oh...hmm, didn't know that. Well then...we can forget about that. Oh well, DOOM did great sales without an HD makeover so I'm sure Duke can hold his own...

Retodon8 · 02-13-2008, 12:48 PM

Of course opinions differ on what to expect from an "HD makeover", but Doom does support "HDTV 1080i" and "Dolby 5.1 Surround".
Of course the textures and sprites are still the same ("smooth textures" means anti-aliasing as far as I noticed from playing the demo once).

I expected Joe's reply, and expect George to indeed reason likewise.
I don't mind; there's nothing wrong with the old game as is.
The thing with texture detail, but also resolution, is that though at first things may look either beautiful or plain ugly, but as long as the game is fun, after playing a while you don't even notice it anymore.
Subconsciously, obviously you still notice, and it does matter, just not as much as you might think.
At least, that's the way it works for me, and most people I spoke with/heard from.

I'd rather have some new features, like a Capture the Flag or Invasion (UT2004) mode, of course Achievements, more multiplayer skins, stuff like that.

Skulhedface · 02-13-2008, 02:38 PM

I definitely hope it isnt Polymost'ed. Also, it'd be great if there was a way we could transfer usermaps.

Retodon8 · 02-13-2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skulhedface

Also, it'd be great if there was a way we could transfer usermaps.

One word: Visit an Unreal Tournament-related site, like BeyondUnreal, and do some research about custom content on the Xbox 360.
(No, I can't count.)

In case you don't feel like doing research:
MS is very protective about their Xbox 360 and Live brands, and requires every little bit of content supplied through those to undergo thorough testing.
This pretty much makes it impossible to support user-made content.
Epic has cited their talks with MS about allowing this (like on Windows and PS3; Sony is much more loose apparently) as the main reason for the delay of UT3 on the Xbox 360.

Three words: Don't count on it.

HazMat · 02-14-2008, 08:20 AM

Joe could you please tell us what version it is that will be in the xbox live download? ie: PC version or 64 version or saturn or perhaps the playstation version. thanks

Nacho · 02-14-2008, 08:54 AM

Now, will the game be Duke Nukem 3D or the Atomic version...hmmm...

Retodon8 · 02-14-2008, 09:05 AM

If you ask me it's unlikely to be a version other than the original DOS one.
It doesn't include The Birth, that would really suck.
I suppose if the footprint of 3 episodes is already near the maximum allowed by MS, having the Plutonium Pack content as a download would make sense...

DN3D still hasn't officially been announced for XBLA, so I don't think Joe will clarify this until after that.

Joe Siegler · 02-14-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by HazMat

Joe could you please tell us what version it is that will be in the xbox live download? ie: PC version or 64 version or saturn or perhaps the playstation version. thanks

I can't tell you anything, since it hasn't been announced. We still have not given official word this is happening, so don't assume it, eh?

All I did is theorize on the non-inclusion of HRP assuming we DID do it. Don't get ahead of yourselves.

The Commander · 02-14-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Don't get ahead of yourselves.

That seems to happen alot around here, heh

Steve · 02-14-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HazMat

Joe could you please tell us what version it is that will be in the xbox live download? ie: PC version or 64 version or saturn or perhaps the playstation version. thanks

If it does make it to Xbox live it will be the PC version just like Doom.

GOK · 02-14-2008, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Don't get ahead of yourselves.

Duke fans live an average 2 minutes in the future

jagguar20 · 02-18-2008, 09:32 PM

If they get to release it, they are going to do it without the HRP, the same way they did with DOOM.

wieder · 02-18-2008, 09:50 PM

For an XBox Live release I would prefer it without HRP.

Smooth textures are almost certainly a must, but I'd also love to see better up/down looking though that's not vital since Duke is designed to play well looking mostly side to side.

Phayzon · 02-26-2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve

If it does make it to Xbox live it will be the PC version just like Doom.

I'd assume Atomic Edition as well, since Doom was Ultimate Doom, not the 3-ep original

Retodon8 · 02-27-2008, 05:10 AM

Doom is id Software, Nerve Software, Vicarious Visions (and of course Microsoft) says Wikipedia.
Duke Nukem 3D would be 3DR and maybe another company who ported it/is porting it/will port it (assuming the these rumours are true; still haven't seen an official announcement).
In other words, only Microsoft's say in things would mean the DN3D release would be as complete as Doom.
I do agree that it's the most likely though.

bobthefish · 03-02-2008, 03:04 PM

since i dont like the 360, how about the playstation network?

BabyFace · 03-18-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by bobthefish

since i dont like the 360, how about the playstation network?

Yeah, there has been no mention of the PSN yet from Joe's side. If, just hypothetically, an XBL version would be made, would it be thinkable that a PSN version might be made as well? Or are there any hard reasons for never, ever, doing so (even if it's just "because we think the PS3 sucks")?

Because I for one would certainly buy Duke3D on the PSN.

Retodon8 · 03-19-2008, 10:28 AM

I understand the Xbox 360 is closer to a PC than the PS3, so that could mean a PSN port is more unlikely.
Of course it could also not.

alexgk · 03-22-2008, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nacho

Now, will the game be Duke Nukem 3D or the Atomic version...hmmm...

Atomic. God please, let it be Atomic...

Phayzon · 03-30-2008, 06:48 PM

I dont see why it wouldnt be, XBLA Doom was Ultimate Doom.

Hudson · 03-30-2008, 08:02 PM

What I want to know is when this is coming out? Or if it's even coming at all..

rockmanekuzu8 · 03-30-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hudson

What I want to know is when this is coming out? Or if it's even coming at all..

Most likely around the same time as the Trailer for DNF.

alexgk · 03-30-2008, 09:47 PM

Imo, it'd be great if this was out a little before DNF is released, so I could play it again and be ready for the sequel.

Nukkus · 03-31-2008, 04:36 AM

if it does happen, i just hope it's widescreen, unlike doom.

The Commander · 03-31-2008, 06:35 AM

Dont get me started on that!

Retodon8 · 03-31-2008, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nukkus

if it does happen, i just hope it's widescreen, unlike doom.

I don't see why not, Marathon 2: Durandal for XBLA is widescreen.

Actually, I'm hoping right there with you.

Kev_Hectic · 03-31-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hudson

What I want to know is when this is coming out? Or if it's even coming at all..

I'm guessing that they're still waiting for a release date from Microsoft before announcing anything.

jagguar20 · 03-31-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Phayzon

I'd assume Atomic Edition as well, since Doom was Ultimate Doom, not the 3-ep original

Hmmm... Im pretty sure It was the 3ep one.

Steve · 03-31-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jagguar20

Hmmm... Im pretty sure It was the 3ep one.

No, it's the 4ep.

Phayzon · 04-01-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jagguar20

Hmmm... Im pretty sure It was the 3ep one.

Please explain how I played "Thy Flesh Consumed" on an Xbox360 then.

Stevey Boy · 04-03-2008, 10:51 AM

This needs to happen ASAP IMO no questions,id get it straight away,someone somewhere needs to make that magic decision,scrap all other Live Arcade releases n get Duke on there pronto!
This was one of the reasons i joined these forums iv got Doom on the 360 now but i cant help feeling like i did years ago-"yeah Doom is ok but its not as good as Duke Nukem"

Joe Siegler · 04-03-2008, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stevey Boy

This needs to happen ASAP IMO no questions,id get it straight away,someone somewhere needs to make that magic decision,scrap all other Live Arcade releases n get Duke on there pronto!

I'm sure Microsoft will get right on that.

You do realize that even if we coded the entire thing, handed it to them 100% completed, 100% bug tested, and everything totally finished..

It's not up to us when it gets released. XBLA release schedules are a nebulous thing, we wouldn't be the ones deciding when it comes out.

Steve · 04-03-2008, 09:20 PM

Microsoft reject a lot of good games

Stevey Boy · 04-04-2008, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

I'm sure Microsoft will get right on that.

You do realize that even if we coded the entire thing, handed it to them 100% completed, 100% bug tested, and everything totally finished..

It's not up to us when it gets released. XBLA release schedules are a nebulous thing, we wouldn't be the ones deciding when it comes out.

I realise its not up to you guys if or when it would get released on Live im just saying i really want it on Live Arcade

I only have hazy memories of it on my mates brothers PC years ago but everything about it was just so good.

02-07-2008, 10:27 AM	#241
Retodon8	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! I already own some XBLA games due to special events (recent XBL downtime, game temporarily free to download, stuff like that), and a friend bought some games on my box, but it seems I'll be getting some actual Microsoft Points of my own somewhere in the future. __________________ Retodon8 Sheep happens!

02-09-2008, 10:16 AM	#242
343 guiltyspark	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/850/850303p1.html GODLY Last edited by Joe Siegler; 02-09-2008 at 10:25 AM. Reason: Subject change. Nothing is "confirmed".

02-10-2008, 10:52 AM	#243
ZuljinRaynor	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! I got to get another points card now.

02-10-2008, 11:12 AM	#244
Krid	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Now I'm just curious if they're going to try to make the HRP available for the Live Arcade release, and which codebase they're going to use. Did people ever agree on what license they wanted to use for their respective artwork? Will they be using polymost and the other various enhancements, or keeping the code as pure as they can? Last edited by Krid; 02-10-2008 at 11:15 AM.

02-13-2008, 12:48 PM	#248
Retodon8	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Of course opinions differ on what to expect from an "HD makeover", but Doom does support "HDTV 1080i" and "Dolby 5.1 Surround". Of course the textures and sprites are still the same ("smooth textures" means anti-aliasing as far as I noticed from playing the demo once). I expected Joe's reply, and expect George to indeed reason likewise. I don't mind; there's nothing wrong with the old game as is. The thing with texture detail, but also resolution, is that though at first things may look either beautiful or plain ugly, but as long as the game is fun, after playing a while you don't even notice it anymore. Subconsciously, obviously you still notice, and it does matter, just not as much as you might think. At least, that's the way it works for me, and most people I spoke with/heard from. I'd rather have some new features, like a Capture the Flag or Invasion (UT2004) mode, of course Achievements, more multiplayer skins, stuff like that. __________________ Retodon8 Sheep happens!

02-13-2008, 02:38 PM	#249
Skulhedface	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! I definitely hope it isnt Polymost'ed. Also, it'd be great if there was a way we could transfer usermaps.

02-14-2008, 08:20 AM	#251
HazMat	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Joe could you please tell us what version it is that will be in the xbox live download? ie: PC version or 64 version or saturn or perhaps the playstation version. thanks __________________ George walks over to my chair and ******* stomps the shit out of it until the legs are broken off

02-14-2008, 08:54 AM	#252
Nacho	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Now, will the game be Duke Nukem 3D or the Atomic version...hmmm...

02-14-2008, 09:05 AM	#253
Retodon8	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! If you ask me it's unlikely to be a version other than the original DOS one. It doesn't include The Birth, that would really suck. I suppose if the footprint of 3 episodes is already near the maximum allowed by MS, having the Plutonium Pack content as a download would make sense... DN3D still hasn't officially been announced for XBLA, so I don't think Joe will clarify this until after that. __________________ Retodon8 Sheep happens!

02-18-2008, 09:32 PM	#258
jagguar20	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! If they get to release it, they are going to do it without the HRP, the same way they did with DOOM.

02-18-2008, 09:50 PM	#259
wieder	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! For an XBox Live release I would prefer it without HRP. Smooth textures are almost certainly a must, but I'd also love to see better up/down looking though that's not vital since Duke is designed to play well looking mostly side to side.

02-27-2008, 05:10 AM	#261
Retodon8	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Doom is id Software, Nerve Software, Vicarious Visions (and of course Microsoft) says Wikipedia. Duke Nukem 3D would be 3DR and maybe another company who ported it/is porting it/will port it (assuming the these rumours are true; still haven't seen an official announcement). In other words, only Microsoft's say in things would mean the DN3D release would be as complete as Doom. I do agree that it's the most likely though. __________________ Retodon8 Sheep happens!

03-02-2008, 03:04 PM	#262
bobthefish	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! since i dont like the 360, how about the playstation network?

03-19-2008, 10:28 AM	#264
Retodon8	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! I understand the Xbox 360 is closer to a PC than the PS3, so that could mean a PSN port is more unlikely. Of course it could also not. __________________ Retodon8 Sheep happens!

03-30-2008, 06:48 PM	#266
Phayzon	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! I dont see why it wouldnt be, XBLA Doom was Ultimate Doom. __________________ I made the first post on the VB! "So I guess the news here is that not only is Australia the last to get anything new in regard to videogames, they're also the first to get them taken away." - LeadBullet "We're part-time internet superheros." - Hudson

03-30-2008, 08:02 PM	#267
Hudson	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! What I want to know is when this is coming out? Or if it's even coming at all.. __________________ Staying Frosty Since 09/06/07 - I love you Katie <3 “Software is like sex; it's better when it's free.” - Linus Torvalds “Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us.” - Calvin & Hobbes [INSERT SYSTEM SPECS THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT HERE]

03-30-2008, 09:47 PM	#269
alexgk	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Imo, it'd be great if this was out a little before DNF is released, so I could play it again and be ready for the sequel. __________________ Playable demo this year! Confirmed!!

03-31-2008, 04:36 AM	#270
Nukkus	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! if it does happen, i just hope it's widescreen, unlike doom.

03-31-2008, 06:35 AM	#271
The Commander	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Dont get me started on that! __________________ I Know Everything There Is To Know About Anything. Duke Nukem Red Alert SVN Ask Me Anything!

04-03-2008, 10:51 AM	#277
Stevey Boy	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! This needs to happen ASAP IMO no questions,id get it straight away,someone somewhere needs to make that magic decision,scrap all other Live Arcade releases n get Duke on there pronto! This was one of the reasons i joined these forums iv got Doom on the 360 now but i cant help feeling like i did years ago-"yeah Doom is ok but its not as good as Duke Nukem"

04-03-2008, 09:20 PM	#279
Steve	Re: Duke3D on Xbox Live Arcade! Microsoft reject a lot of good games