Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remake th

mr.smith · 10-22-2010, 09:05 AM

i was wondering if 3DRealms had a loophole in the deal when selling the I.P.
they can not mention Duke Forever, nor make a game relating to it.

but can they remake the originals modernized?

or do they only get to do sidescrollers?

or do they only get to release what has been done in the past and leave it as is?

Nacho · 10-22-2010, 11:07 AM

I'm not really sure... it's complicated... I believe they have the rights to redistribute any of their old Duke games if they wish but if they were to do a total remake of one that may fall outside of their rights of the I.P. as that would be a new game.

ZuljinRaynor · 10-22-2010, 12:09 PM

Duke Nukem I and II should not be remade into FPS games.

Xonic · 10-29-2010, 01:26 PM

I agree with ZuljinRaynor on this one. Let the classics stay classic.

The Dukenator · 10-29-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mr.smith

i was wondering if 3DRealms had a loophole in the deal when selling the I.P.
they can not mention Duke Forever, nor make a game relating to it.

but can they remake the originals modernized?

or do they only get to do sidescrollers?

or do they only get to release what has been done in the past and leave it as is?

No to 1st & 2nd questions. They can't make any new game containing Duke Nukem unless they have the rights to do so. Even remaking them isn't worth the time and money. If by modernizing, you mean updating the originals to run natively on newer systems, then you're SOL as the source code is long gone.

Yes to 3rd question. They can only release the older stuff as it was done prior to Gearbox buying the IP.

Kristian Joensen · 10-30-2010, 05:07 AM

Given that we learned of 3DR retaining the rights to the old stuff when Gearbox said that the Duke Nukem Next Gen project needed the go ahead from 3DR(something they still maintain) I would say yes they could remake the side scrollers or Duke3D for that matter. But we can't be sure about this.

MusicallyInspired · 11-17-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ZuljinRaynor

Duke Nukem I and II should not be remade into FPS games.

Right. They should be fanmade MODs instead.

Damien_Azreal · 11-18-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MusicallyInspired

Right. They should be fanmade MODs instead.

No, they shouldn't be touched at all.
The originals are great as classics, when they are remade... they loose what made them awesome.

MusicallyInspired · 11-19-2010, 05:31 PM

That's crap. If one didn't want to play them than one wouldn't have to. That's the beauty of remakes. The originals are always there. Remakes don't replace anything. I'd play them.

Damien_Azreal · 11-19-2010, 06:22 PM

I didn't mean the originals loose their charm, I meant remakes almost never capture the spirit and charm of the games that they are based off.

Duke's New Chainsaw · 11-19-2010, 10:39 PM

Yeah. They always try to be too gritty and ultra realistic.

Bam050196 · 11-20-2010, 04:35 PM

If they ever do that, It will ruin the "epicness" of those to Games.

marioman360 · 11-22-2010, 05:09 AM

If they were going to remake Duke I & II, I could only see it done in the style of Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project.

Which, admittedly, would be pretty awesome.

mr.smith · 11-23-2010, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by marioman360

If they were going to remake Duke I & II, I could only see it done in the style of Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project.

Which, admittedly, would be pretty awesome.

I concure.

diakonov · 12-18-2010, 05:51 AM

Well, actually Duke Nukem I and II could be mods of Manhattan Project (the only thing to be done would change graphics and levels and maybe camera style, to look like a true 2D game). To be optimistic, Manhattan Project is already the evolution of Duke Nukem II mixed with elements of Duke Nukem 3D!!!

The Dukenator · 12-18-2010, 11:41 AM

Why haven't this thread died already? Duke 1 & 2 will never be remade.

However, they said DNMP was a tribute to sidescrollers, but with a 3D setting.

diakonov · 12-18-2010, 04:09 PM

Is there any way of a possible DNMP mod? It even have a source so the game could be modified, or at least map editor?

The Dukenator · 12-18-2010, 06:00 PM

There is an editor for DNMP, but modding is kinda dead anyway.

MrBlackCat · 12-22-2010, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dukenator

Why haven't this thread died already? Duke 1 & 2 will never be remade.

However, they said DNMP was a tribute to sidescrollers, but with a 3D setting.

Never say never...

I could do it. But it is not likely that I will unless I retire sooner than anticipated. I like the idea of such a thing... and I play the old games often.

Not likely, but possible.
I know this... I would not mention it until nearly complete. Learned that lesson around here.

MrBlackCat

Glassagate · 01-09-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Damien_Azreal

No, they shouldn't be touched at all.
The originals are great as classics, when they are remade... they loose what made them awesome.

Nuts to the classics! Remake them, just don't forget to add
dewbacks!

11-19-2010, 06:22 PM	#10
Damien_Azreal Super Moderator	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak I didn't mean the originals loose their charm, I meant remakes almost never capture the spirit and charm of the games that they are based off. __________________ Monolith Fanboy since 1997 Upcoming Anticipated Games: Doom, Shadow Warrior 2, Mafia III, DisHonored 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

10-22-2010, 09:05 AM	#1
mr.smith	Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remake th i was wondering if 3DRealms had a loophole in the deal when selling the I.P. they can not mention Duke Forever, nor make a game relating to it. but can they remake the originals modernized? or do they only get to do sidescrollers? or do they only get to release what has been done in the past and leave it as is?

10-22-2010, 11:07 AM	#2
Nacho	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak I'm not really sure... it's complicated... I believe they have the rights to redistribute any of their old Duke games if they wish but if they were to do a total remake of one that may fall outside of their rights of the I.P. as that would be a new game.

10-22-2010, 12:09 PM	#3
ZuljinRaynor	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak Duke Nukem I and II should not be remade into FPS games. __________________ My vision is augmented.

10-29-2010, 01:26 PM	#4
Xonic	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak I agree with ZuljinRaynor on this one. Let the classics stay classic. __________________ Duke forever!

10-30-2010, 05:07 AM	#6
Kristian Joensen	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak Given that we learned of 3DR retaining the rights to the old stuff when Gearbox said that the Duke Nukem Next Gen project needed the go ahead from 3DR(something they still maintain) I would say yes they could remake the side scrollers or Duke3D for that matter. But we can't be sure about this. __________________ The Philosophy Of Liberty, Chaos Theory Tachyons, Time Travel, and Divine Omniscience A Refutation of Moral Relativism(Transcript) Last edited by Kristian Joensen; 10-30-2010 at 05:10 AM.

11-19-2010, 05:31 PM	#9
MusicallyInspired	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak That's crap. If one didn't want to play them than one wouldn't have to. That's the beauty of remakes. The originals are always there. Remakes don't replace anything. I'd play them. __________________ Roland SC-55 Music Packs Website - MediaFire mirror for Duke3D expansions More SC-55 music packs coming soon...

11-19-2010, 10:39 PM	#11
Duke's New Chainsaw	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak Yeah. They always try to be too gritty and ultra realistic. __________________ The Great Communicator!

11-20-2010, 04:35 PM	#12
Bam050196	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak If they ever do that, It will ruin the "epicness" of those to Games.

11-22-2010, 05:09 AM	#13
marioman360	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak If they were going to remake Duke I & II, I could only see it done in the style of Duke Nukem: Manhattan Project. Which, admittedly, would be pretty awesome. __________________ Please forgive the stupid username.

12-18-2010, 05:51 AM	#15
diakonov	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak Well, actually Duke Nukem I and II could be mods of Manhattan Project (the only thing to be done would change graphics and levels and maybe camera style, to look like a true 2D game). To be optimistic, Manhattan Project is already the evolution of Duke Nukem II mixed with elements of Duke Nukem 3D!!!

12-18-2010, 11:41 AM	#16
The Dukenator	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak Why haven't this thread died already? Duke 1 & 2 will never be remade. However, they said DNMP was a tribute to sidescrollers, but with a 3D setting. __________________ Thank you sir. May I have DNF? - KaiserSoze - Look in profile to get joke. These are English forums; anything the moderators can't read is eligible for deletion. - TerminX OMG, Duke killed Kenny! You bastard! - wayskobfssae

12-18-2010, 04:09 PM	#17
diakonov	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak Is there any way of a possible DNMP mod? It even have a source so the game could be modified, or at least map editor?

12-18-2010, 06:00 PM	#18
The Dukenator	Re: Is 3DRealms allowed to remake Duke l & ll into modern FPS? or can they only remak There is an editor for DNMP, but modding is kinda dead anyway. __________________ Thank you sir. May I have DNF? - KaiserSoze - Look in profile to get joke. These are English forums; anything the moderators can't read is eligible for deletion. - TerminX OMG, Duke killed Kenny! You bastard! - wayskobfssae