09-10-2006, 03:35 PM | #1 |
MGM has "The Hobbit" license..planning major movie(s)!
This is actually good news for Lord of the Rings/Hobbit fans.
It's MGM that has the rights to the long rumored "Hobbit" movie which New Line was thought to have. It's probably good news for those of us who'd only want to see a Hobbit movie directed by Peter Jackson. Jackson had a major falling out with New Line Cinema over money issues with the Lord of the Rings trilogy and many think Jackson will never work with New Line Cinema again(or at least until all the various legalities are sorted out, which could take years) With the Hobbit movie at MGM, you'd have to think they'd go after Jackson to direct the movie. Jackson has a few current projects such as "The Lovely Bones" and "Dambusters" he's actively developing. That wouldn't keep MGM from potentially giving Jackson a record payday to put those projects on the back burner and step in to direct the Hobbit. Also, I see no reason MGM wouldn't be able to secure the original cast members from the New Line Trilogy as those actors portrayed the characters that are in the Hobbit. http://comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=16424
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09-10-2006, 04:35 PM | #2 |
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What the, they have the license but haven't even contacted Jackson? Without him I don't see this movie going anywhere but the trash can. I'm not that interested in a hobbit movie anyway unless they really do it well.
Jackson also can't stretch this movie to 3 hours, as the events of the hobbit won't make for a good length film. A standard film length with Bilbo doing his thing could be interesting. |
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Well, without Jackson they might actually get somebody who understands emotion and isn't a complete studio whore.
Granted, that's never going to happen so what the hell, might as well use Jackson again... |
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The LOTR films were damn emotional.
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09-10-2006, 07:16 PM | #7 |
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"Do you remember the taste of strawberries?"
I enjoyed Return of the King (the only Jackson LOTR film I've seen), but that line made me want to puke.
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09-10-2006, 08:09 PM | #8 |
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This is cool news, I'd say. I love Jackson's LOTR movies, and hopefully they get him back for this one.
More importantly, Ian McKellen must return as Gandalf. No one else could play him as well.
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09-10-2006, 08:26 PM | #9 |
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The only problem I had with the LOTR movies was they cut out all the good stuff.....
And the Hobbit is as long as any part of the LOTR trilogy, I can see it being 2 1/2 hours easy. ~Amakou~ |
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09-10-2006, 09:09 PM | #10 |
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A lot of stuff happens in the Hobbit. They escape one enemy after another, followed by a battle with a dragon and a war with the orcs. LOTR, on the other hand, really focused on one crisis per book. There was a lot of adventure The Fellowship, but The Two Towers is almost entirely the Battle of Helms Deep in Rohan, and Return of the King is almost entirely the battle for Gondor. I can definitely see a production of the Hobbit on the same scale as one of the LOTR movies. I was hoping they would do this, retaining everyone responsible for LOTR. It seemed logical to do the whole series in four movies, starting with the Hobbit in order to set up the Lord of the Rings.
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Jackson isn't a great director but those criticisms are just ridiculous.
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09-10-2006, 10:42 PM | #12 |
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This is nothing new, they've had this license since before the three movies finished airing in the theatres. It was said at the time they'd do it after Jackson was done working on some other things he was doing.
As for Opus' "studio whore" and "emotional" remarks.. Those who know him knows he always says stuff like that. Don't let it bother you or post flames, eh?
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09-10-2006, 10:53 PM | #13 |
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They were more melodramatic than emotional, actually.
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09-10-2006, 11:42 PM | #14 |
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Bloody double post!!!!!
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When it comes to his big budged films however i must conclude his work is either maimed by producers and executives or else he is simply inept (or both). Quote:
Whatever Jackson did to earn your admiration seems to be missing is his late work, at best. Right now he is the very embodyment of all that is wrong with modern cinema, which is style over substance and lot's of pointless eye candy. IMO, at any rate...
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09-11-2006, 12:26 AM | #16 |
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LotR would be impossible to do in this era, anyway. Making it properly would require lots of knowledge about classical European works, Christian theology, cryptofascist environmentalism, late 19th century spiritualism, old as the hills racial theories that separate Germans from Italians, etc. One would have to be alive in Tolkien's day as well as very well educated to make the film good. Our whole general worldview has changed since his time, so I don't think any amount of research would capture all of the meaning behind LotR, at least for the typical Hollywood director.
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09-11-2006, 01:00 AM | #17 |
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I'd really like to see a Hobbit movie, but definitely not by Peter Jackson. LotR were extremely drawn out and dull, with way too much hollow drama instead of real character. The constant gray and blue or green tints over the entire screen were terrible additions.
People mistake P.J. as a good director without thinking about it. His movies are big because they are already grand stories that he's using. I think he works are so much less than what could have been done with the projects, it's disappointing to me. Also, the books didn't come out in my mind as "sappy melodrama" when I read them. That's P.J.'s touch, and a bitter one.
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In addition to all this I could easily do a far better job myself... but those're just words on a forum, aren't they? To some.
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09-11-2006, 01:12 AM | #19 |
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90 per cent of big budget stuff is maimed by producers, regardless of who the director is. The other 10 per cent is only if they've been around long enough to be able (allowed) to carry it themselves.
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09-11-2006, 03:03 AM | #20 |
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Ian McKellen has to be back. I didn't think his portrayal of Gandalf was particularly accurate. He's just too ingrained in the role in my mind for it to be anybody else.
As for the rest, I can see a few cameos: Aragorn (at Rivendell) and Legolas could have a huge role in the battle scenes.
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I'd wait to see what peter does with the lovely bones before even thinking he may have lost his way.
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09-11-2006, 09:39 AM | #22 |
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Actually, they were profoundly moving. If you watch Gandalf's death in FOTR or pretty much anything in ROTK from the Ride of the Rohirrim onwards and aren't emotionally stirred, something's wrong with you.
And Jackson's King Kong remake wasn't all that impressive, but it was basically his masturbation project so I'll forgive him for that.
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Personally, I found Jackson's attempts to squeeze "emotion" out of his actors' performances to be a largely overwrought effort that edged more towards melodrama and parody than genuine emotion. Mind you, that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the films (as a matter of fact, I own all three extended editions). I simply recognize that they're a bit overrated and have their share of flaws.
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09-11-2006, 01:04 PM | #24 |
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O.k. it seems New Line Cinema has the rights to produce the movie and MGM has the rights to distribute the movie. So it will be a co-production of sorts.
Peter Jackson has said he'd love to do the film but has not been approached by either New Line or MGM as of yet: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/24456 Since Jackson seems willing to direct the movie, it would indicate he's "smoothed" over any hard feelings/legalities with New Line over the LOTR Trilogy ie: $$$$$$$.
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09-11-2006, 03:12 PM | #25 |
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I say the same about Gone with the Wind, Citizen Kane and Casablanca.
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09-11-2006, 03:28 PM | #26 |
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I say, what will be the tone of the movie? The Hobbit was awfully light and happy, since it was a children's book that "Bilbo" wrote; so I wonder how it will be...
I want to see the studio that did the 3D CGI for LOTR to be back, Jackson, and the characters from LotR that are in the Hobbit. And PJ should be back.
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09-11-2006, 07:18 PM | #27 |
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Good for you.
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09-11-2006, 08:31 PM | #28 |
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I don't really see this really working without Jackson directing... its not that another director couldn't do the book justice, but with the huge success of the LOTR movies, its clear that audiences want more of that exact same tone and style. That style and intepretation is just too ingrained in the general public's mind by now, myself included.
But either way, since he probably will direct... looking forward to it. The Hobbit was one of my favorite books as a kid. |
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09-12-2006, 11:07 AM | #29 |
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Maybe MGM should let Paul Anderson direct it. Also they should set the Hobbit in the far future sci fi enviroment married with fantasy settings.
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09-17-2006, 01:12 PM | #32 |
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The tone was different cause it was Biblo's book. Gandalf said that if he told the story it would be different... so it would be really interesting if the Hobbit does Gandalf's version of the Hobbit and not Bilbo's Kid-Hobbit friendly story. But I would prefer either way.
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09-17-2006, 04:09 PM | #33 |
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The hobbit was so much less dark. I'm not sure if this could possibly be good.
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09-17-2006, 11:29 PM | #34 |
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More adventure, less philosophy. I've read the Hobbit more than once, but I find it hard to stick with LOTR for more than a few chapters. The Hobbit gets to the freaking point.
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I think The Hobbit should attempt both. Appear as a fairytale on the surface but with the darkening undercurrent of Gandalf's version- the necromancer's rise, without ever naming him although the film audience gradually realises who it is.
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09-18-2006, 12:53 AM | #36 |
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Bilbo and the dwarves have a number of fairytale escapes in the first part of the book, but the story ends in a very LOTR fashion. Smaug unleashes his power on the river people, smashing, scorching and destroying, before being slain. Quite dramatic.
In the days following the death of Smaug, the dwarves take up positions in the mountain and call for reinforcements, a la Battle of Helms Deep. The situation escalates into a final climactic battle between men, dwarves, elves, goblins and wargs in which members of all five armies are slaughtered, and Thorin dies. The Battle of Five Armies absolutely works in the style of LOTR and makes an excellent transition into the trilogy.
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09-19-2006, 09:58 PM | #37 |
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I'd say from this point on the movies start getting emotionally powerful at points. Before this it's adventerous, but after Gandalf dies the tone takes a more serious turn (obviously deliberately meant to be a "loss of innocence" kind of thing). There are countless moving scenes in the trilogy. Some don't work very well, others are incredibly effective. There's too many characters and too much story for them all to work perfectly, really.
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09-25-2006, 05:28 PM | #39 |
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I look forward to the movie, I only hope it will be as good as the cartoon from many years ago.
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I didn't like the cartoon. Voices of the eagles sucked ass.
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