ROTT needs to go GBA

[trudude]

Who agrees? Ludicrous Gibs!!!

[PlayfulPuppy]

... hrm... I still have my GBA flash kit here and the GBA libraries...

Sounds like a challenge! I'll see what I can do in my spare time.

[Hudson]

ROTT would be awesome but

HALLOWEEN HARRY RULES ALL!!!

[Diddl]

This would be great. the performance should enough cause duke3d and doom run's very fine on gba. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[Lord of the Pings]

I was thinking the very same thing myself, but as I am no programmer (yet anywayz) I havent been able to do anything about it.

I would definately like to see a port, be it from a games company, doing an official port, or an unofficial port from fans of ROTT.

[Diddl]

i think, there will be some problems with this port. after writing the engine for gba we need a tool to extract game data from original game and merge it with the engine. cause game data are not free and so you can't offer the whole ROM.

[Devil Master]

What about using the demo data? After all, the levels are different.

[PlayfulPuppy]

Originally posted by Diddl:
i think, there will be some problems with this port. after writing the engine for gba we need a tool to extract game data from original game and merge it with the engine. cause game data are not free and so you can't offer the whole ROM.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Argh, actually crap he's right, I forgot, the GBA doesn't actually have any kind of file system, so all the files have to actually be actually *included* in the source code. And 3DRealms doesn't allow any redistribution (Or conversion I believe) of the game data.

Gah, that puts paid to those plans, sorry guys. :\

[edit] And that goes for the demo data as well, if I remember correctly.

[ 05-02-2003, 09:49 AM: Message edited by: PlayfulPuppy ]

[Devil Master]

But it has already been done with the Dreamcast conversion! The CD image includes the demo data as well as the executable in a single file!

[Diddl]

He's right. maybe we only have to ask 3dr and they would allow to combine demo data with engine? [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img]

[PlayfulPuppy]

Originally posted by Devil Master:
But it has already been done with the Dreamcast conversion! The CD image includes the demo data as well as the executable in a single file!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">A CD image is different, as it contains it's own filesystem which includes the original, unaltered files.

[Diddl]

the problem is the file system?

there is a solution for gba. do you know PogoShell?? it's a nice feature, allows to store pictures, midi and other files and to 'start' this files. PogoShell would maybe solve our problems ... [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

Pogo Shell

[subbie]

PlayfulPuppy said:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Diddl:
<strong> i think, there will be some problems with this port. after writing the engine for gba we need a tool to extract game data from original game and merge it with the engine. cause game data are not free and so you can't offer the whole ROM. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Argh, actually crap he's right, I forgot, the GBA doesn't actually have any kind of file system, so all the files have to actually be actually *included* in the source code. And 3DRealms doesn't allow any redistribution (Or conversion I believe) of the game data.

Gah, that puts paid to those plans, sorry guys. :\

[edit] And that goes for the demo data as well, if I remember correctly.

<small>[ 05-02-2003, 09:49 AM: Message edited by: PlayfulPuppy ]</small>

But you can easly write a file system that merges onto the end of the rom that the user can do them self. So its the user them self who has to attach the game data files that they own.

Hell if you write the port. I'll gladly write a filesystem for you.

[Mike359]

Hudson said:
HALLOWEEN HARRY RULES ALL!!!

YES!

[Tedades]

Their is a GP32 port, the GP32 uses the GBA devkit...

Maybe someone should find the GP32 Rott source and recompile it for GBA?

(Damn, why does GBA have DN3D and GP32 hasnt)

[Tedades]

Tedades said:
Their is a GP32 port, the GP32 uses the GBA devkit...

Maybe someone should find the GP32 Rott source and recompile it for GBA?

(Damn, why does GBA have DN3D and GP32 hasnt)

(Damn, why does GBA have DN3D and GP32 hasnt)
It does now.

[souleliminator]

I never played ROTT so it would be a good idea

[Tedades]

souleliminator said:
I never played ROTT so it would be a good idea

Rott rules, surely out-dated graphics now but it was so cool for its time.
If features almost anything you want, only co-op is missing.

[souleliminator]

Tedades said:

Rott rules, surely out-dated graphics now but it was so cool for its time.
If features almost anything you want, only co-op is missing.

just tried to play the shareware version but it wont run on my pc

[jbailey]

What's your pc specs? and what version of rott? (original
executable or winrott)..

[8IronBob]

Yeah, I still have yet to use my GBA devkit that I have laying around, and what a perfect game to have on the GBA than ROTT (Shadow Warrior would be too complex for the GBA, IMHO). Well, if anyone has emulated ROTT onto a GBA, lemme know, and just send the modified code, and I'll see how well it plays, just gotta grab my old CD-ROM and extract the required files on my end (may need to blow the dust off, because it's been too long).

[PimPamPet]

I agree this game would be incredible on a GBA. If done properly (faithful to the original). If someone is to attempt this, I'll gladly contribute in some fashion (I'm not a programmer, but perhaps I could do something else?).

[oak man]

I wouldn't mind it for the DS, it would run smoother, the D()()M ports were crap.

[PimPamPet]

I actually liked DOOM II on the GBA. Faithful to the original. But I agree the original DOOM port was ass.

[Telee]

Yargh, bumpage! (sorry :/)

Anyway, I would love to have ROTT on GBA! Portable Consoles need to have more FPSs, they would keep me busy on a road trip for a looooong time

[ZuljinRaynor]

Originally Posted by PimPamPet

I actually liked DOOM II on the GBA. Faithful to the original. But I agree the original DOOM port was ass.

Not faithful... really. T rated... and why? Blood is green.

[H.Smits]

I love playing around wit my GBA devkit, and I always do homebrew projects in my
spare time. So I went a head and created a new 3D engine. It’s between build and Quake,
I’m going to use sprites and stuff but it can rotated around all axis (so real lookup and
down). I used some ROTT textures to see how it looked, and I liked it.

I might do a port of ROTT, if time and the code (I don’t know how dirty it is) let me.

Also, the engine is now 100% written in C. Because of that, it’s not so fast (between 10
and 20 FPS but that’s without game logics). So I probably need to rewrite some functions
in ASM first.

[Supreme Eight Ball]

About the file system...

I am not a programmer, but I think that it should work just like an emulator for the GBA. The best solution IMHO would be a little program that would scan the ROTT directory, search for ROTT data files (shareware or full), convert them (perhaps an option for resampling textures) if required and build a GBA ROM with the ROTT port and required files.

But IIRC, ROTT need 8Mbytes of RAM to work. Could it really be ported to a GBA?

[H.Smits]

ok, I did some work in my xmas break some WIP screens :







As you can see the engine is 'true' 3D, so all kind of cool effects
are possible (like looking up and down). At the moment I'm working
on a good stable rott port, but I'm not sure when it's going to be done.

[Diddl]

Does anybody know where to find GP32 Rott source. I would try to compile this source with NDSLIB.