Old manuals

Joe Siegler · 04-22-2009, 04:01 PM

I finally finished scanning our old print manuals into pdf form. You can check 'em out here:

http://www.3drealms.com/tech/manuals

I forgot to do Duke Nukem 3D, I'll have to get that online later.

ryche · 04-22-2009, 04:01 PM

Sweet.

Where's the Duke3D one? (or was there even a printed manual, I can't remember...)

Joe Siegler · 04-22-2009, 04:13 PM

Uh, did you miss me saying I forgot to do it?

I'm actually going to have to do that three times. The 1.3d manual, the PPack manual, and the Atomic Edition all have different manuals. The problem is finding a good version of the Atomic Edition manual we don't mind destroying, we don't have many copies of that left.

peoplessi · 04-22-2009, 05:08 PM

Really sweet, thank Joe

Brings back memories.

ryche · 04-22-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Uh, did you miss me saying I forgot to do it?

I'm actually going to have to do that three times. The 1.3d manual, the PPack manual, and the Atomic Edition all have different manuals. The problem is finding a good version of the Atomic Edition manual we don't mind destroying, we don't have many copies of that left.

Must've missed that

hightreason · 04-22-2009, 08:13 PM

It's cool seeing some of these again, my parents never beleived in keeping manuals, or any of the packaging either for that matter - so the manuals for all my apogee/3d realms games are long since lost (except my duke 3d 1.3 one and some of my games console games)

Joe Siegler · 04-23-2009, 01:17 PM

All three versions of the Duke Nukem 3D manual are up there.

1.3d, PPack, & Atomic Edition.

IceColdDuke · 04-23-2009, 02:18 PM

Oh damn...I remember bringing the V1.3d manual to my class when I was in 3rd grade and id try to draw the duke pic on the front

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moron · 04-25-2009, 04:05 AM

I see in the boppin manual there are pics (cartoonish ones) of the apogge tec suport who represents you in the pic Joe?

---------- Post added at 05:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 AM ----------

hey I can get a new cd of rott for 10$ by sending in the upgrade form

but ..... I think thats the full price now anyway

ZaphodB · 04-25-2009, 04:10 AM

Awesome! My Atomic Edition didn't come with a manual. Neither did my Shadow Warrior. Now I have them!!! Thanks Joe!

Joe Siegler · 04-25-2009, 06:12 AM

Shadow Warrior has *NEVER* been sold without a manual. No idea where you would have gotten that.

We have sold a version fo this manual on the DUke3D CD for years, but the quality was crap, since the disc was last mastered years ago, it needed an upgrade.

Regarding Boppin.. hahahahahahaha

Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.

ZaphodB · 04-25-2009, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Shadow Warrior has *NEVER* been sold without a manual. No idea where you would have gotten that.

We have sold a version fo this manual on the DUke3D CD for years, but the quality was crap, since the disc was last mastered years ago, it needed an upgrade.

Regarding Boppin.. hahahahahahaha

Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.

Atomic I bought used (already had 3D and Plutonium pack, only got it cause I couldn't get Plutonium pack to work in xp). Shadow warrior I got from y'all and I didn't realize the manual was the CD case cover

My mistake.

moron · 04-25-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Shadow Warrior has *NEVER* been sold without

Regarding Boppin.. hahahahahahaha

Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.

ya I missed out on the site licence cd that you sold for a bit when you ran out also I seem to remember somtimes seeing a warning when I did multiplayer with friends saying somthing about how the copys hasd the same hash it said somthign to the efect of "you arent using one copy on difrent computers are you" during the game loading menu you dont happen to remember if you had any copy protection like that do you? (btw it wouldint stop you from playing) (sorry for being off topic)

Frenkel · 04-28-2009, 04:09 AM

The Stargunner freeware release also included a scanned manual, but it missed some pages about warranty, technical assistance and online information. And now I can see what I've missed: not much, except for a screenshot of the Apogee website from 1996 and a live shot camera picture.

The early Apogee games used to come with a hint sheet. In the Kroz source code release, there's a hint sheet for Return to Kroz in Word Perfect 5 format. I can open it with Microsoft Office Word 2003, but the page layout is a bit off. I guess I have to search for my Word Perfect 5.1 disks to see what it really should look like.

Joe Siegler · 04-28-2009, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frenkel

The early Apogee games used to come with a hint sheet.

I found our archive of hint sheets. That's next up, I'll be scanning those.

PimPamPet · 04-29-2009, 03:14 PM

Thanks for sharing, Joe. The ROTT download from your Yahoo store doesn't come with a manual (why?) so I'm glad to finally 'have' it.

Jeffpiatt · 05-06-2009, 01:05 PM

I just added the manuals to my dbgl profiles for the games. and printed them up in to a binder for hard copys.

DOSGuy · 05-09-2009, 02:43 PM

Is there any prohibition on external hosting of these PDFs? I'd love to host copies on Classic DOS Games, and to ensure that they always have a home on the web regardless of what the future holds, but I don't want to get into any copyright trouble.

Joe Siegler · 05-09-2009, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOSGuy

Is there any prohibition on external hosting of these PDFs? I'd love to host copies on Classic DOS Games, and to ensure that they always have a home on the web regardless of what the future holds, but I don't want to get into any copyright trouble.

Nope, go ahead. I don't care.

Stevey Boy · 05-09-2009, 03:12 PM

Nice 1 for this Joe

IwantMORE · 05-09-2009, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Nope, go ahead. I don't care.

Are these being released under an open document licence. If so they could be added to Wiki. I guess George would have to ok that.

Joe Siegler · 05-09-2009, 10:09 PM

George is probably not likely to care. But I can't truly answer for him.

IwantMORE · 05-10-2009, 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

George is probably not likely to care. But I can't truly answer for him.

Yer, but Wiki would pull then down unless they have a GFDL

"Content that violates any copyright will be deleted. Encyclopedic content must be verifiable. You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the GFDL"

Would be nice to have the manuals on each of the games wiki pages. Although I'm not even sure if you can attach a PDF to a wiki page...

Thanks for putting them up anyway.

Joe Siegler · 05-10-2009, 07:00 AM

What if I put a license.txt in the same directory stating something like we are releasing them for free, but the copyright is still to Apogee Software, Ltd?

ZaphodB · 05-10-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

What if I put a license.txt in the same directory stating something like we are releasing them for free, but the copyright is still to Apogee Software, Ltd?

Sounds like a good plan to me.

IceColdDuke · 05-10-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

What if I put a license.txt in the same directory stating something like we are releasing them for free, but the copyright is still to Apogee Software, Ltd?

I agree that sounds like a great plan : ).

IwantMORE · 05-10-2009, 04:19 PM

I'm sure that will work

fast-1 · 05-10-2009, 06:14 PM

These appear on the CD's that you get with the games, the DN:MP one looks different from the one I have.

Yes it looks like they have been the original scan copy, great.

bart416 · 05-11-2009, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only.

There are still loads of shareware CDs going around I guess. And some full game CDs as well.

Actually I found a cd in a couple of old boxes in the storage room of a local game store here a couple of months ago. Some funny pictures by the way in the GOODIES/PICTURES directory, specifically OSCURO1.GIF deserves to be mentioned (though I do question the mental sanity of the person who used a digital camera for that type of thing back in 1994).

mouth · 05-12-2009, 01:46 AM

Nice stuff, thanks Joe!
Monster Bash didn't have a manual?

Llama Gibbz · 05-12-2009, 08:07 AM

Thanks for making these available.

A lot of the apogee stuff,i would of never seen otherwise.

sRfuzzyLogik · 05-12-2009, 02:36 PM

sweet!

Joe Siegler · 05-12-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mouth

Nice stuff, thanks Joe!
Monster Bash didn't have a manual?

No. Monster Bash was before print manuals.

EternalSonata · 05-19-2009, 01:53 PM

These are awesome. I've been looking for a good scan of the Spear of Destiny manual for years among a couple others, so this is great! Thanks, Joe!

Can't wait to see the hint sheets, either.

Joe Siegler · 05-20-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EternalSonata

These are awesome. I've been looking for a good scan of the Spear of Destiny manual for years among a couple others, so this is great! Thanks, Joe!

Can't wait to see the hint sheets, either.

http://www.3drealms.com/tech/hintsheets

EternalSonata · 05-20-2009, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

http://www.3drealms.com/tech/hintsheets

Wow! Just snagged them all, thank you so much!

Jeffpiatt · 05-21-2009, 03:34 PM

it is finally great to have all of these files it completes the games that i have to have the old manual pages.

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Flaose · 05-21-2009, 04:56 PM

I was surprised that the Goodbye Galaxy manual didn't go up (you can check out most of it here: http://cc314.classicgaming.gamespy.c...en4/index.html) I suppose this was only part of the retail package then?

PimPamPet · 05-22-2009, 03:21 AM

^ Probably, but wasn't that sold by GT (Good Times) Software? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Apogee. I don't think Apogee went retail until Blake Stone: Planet Strike, right? Or I might just be talking out of my ass.

Joe Siegler · 05-22-2009, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PimPamPet

^ Probably, but wasn't that sold by GT (Good Times) Software? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Apogee. I don't think Apogee went retail until Blake Stone: Planet Strike, right? Or I might just be talking out of my ass.

First retail Apogee game was Planet Strike. We never sold that Galaxy manual, although I find it amusing the PO Box on there is ours.

04-22-2009, 04:01 PM	#1
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Old manuals I finally finished scanning our old print manuals into pdf form. You can check 'em out here: http://www.3drealms.com/tech/manuals I forgot to do Duke Nukem 3D, I'll have to get that online later. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

04-22-2009, 04:13 PM	#3
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Old manuals Uh, did you miss me saying I forgot to do it? I'm actually going to have to do that three times. The 1.3d manual, the PPack manual, and the Atomic Edition all have different manuals. The problem is finding a good version of the Atomic Edition manual we don't mind destroying, we don't have many copies of that left. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

04-23-2009, 01:17 PM	#7
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Old manuals All three versions of the Duke Nukem 3D manual are up there. 1.3d, PPack, & Atomic Edition. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

04-25-2009, 06:12 AM	#11
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Old manuals Shadow Warrior has NEVER been sold without a manual. No idea where you would have gotten that. We have sold a version fo this manual on the DUke3D CD for years, but the quality was crap, since the disc was last mastered years ago, it needed an upgrade. Regarding Boppin.. hahahahahahaha Re: ROTT CD. We haven't sold it as a CD in years. Download only. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

05-09-2009, 10:09 PM	#22
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Old manuals George is probably not likely to care. But I can't truly answer for him. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

04-22-2009, 04:01 PM	#2
ryche	Re: Old manuals Sweet. Where's the Duke3D one? (or was there even a printed manual, I can't remember...) __________________ {<- machines have no conscience ->} {<- “Shoot him!” They say, Who will be the killer? Who will be the winner? ->}

04-22-2009, 05:08 PM	#4
peoplessi	Re: Old manuals Really sweet, thank Joe Brings back memories. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever Who am I to judge?

04-22-2009, 08:13 PM	#6
hightreason	Re: Old manuals It's cool seeing some of these again, my parents never beleived in keeping manuals, or any of the packaging either for that matter - so the manuals for all my apogee/3d realms games are long since lost (except my duke 3d 1.3 one and some of my games console games) __________________ High Treason (My Website) (Second Site) (My YouTube) Punk's not dead - and nor is Duke! Ever get the feeling you are being ignored?

04-23-2009, 02:18 PM	#8
IceColdDuke	Re: Old manuals Oh damn...I remember bringing the V1.3d manual to my class when I was in 3rd grade and id try to draw the duke pic on the front .

04-25-2009, 04:05 AM	#9
moron	Re: Old manuals I see in the boppin manual there are pics (cartoonish ones) of the apogge tec suport who represents you in the pic Joe? ---------- Post added at 05:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:34 AM ---------- hey I can get a new cd of rott for 10$ by sending in the upgrade form but ..... I think thats the full price now anyway

04-25-2009, 04:10 AM	#10
ZaphodB	Re: Old manuals Awesome! My Atomic Edition didn't come with a manual. Neither did my Shadow Warrior. Now I have them!!! Thanks Joe! __________________ "If there's ANYTHING larger than my EGO I want it shot and killed right now" - Zaphod Beeblebrox This Public Service Announcement brought to you by: "The People Who Have NO Idea What's Going On" (TPWHNOIWGON) We thank you for ignoring it.

04-28-2009, 04:09 AM	#14
Frenkel	Re: Old manuals The Stargunner freeware release also included a scanned manual, but it missed some pages about warranty, technical assistance and online information. And now I can see what I've missed: not much, except for a screenshot of the Apogee website from 1996 and a live shot camera picture. The early Apogee games used to come with a hint sheet. In the Kroz source code release, there's a hint sheet for Return to Kroz in Word Perfect 5 format. I can open it with Microsoft Office Word 2003, but the page layout is a bit off. I guess I have to search for my Word Perfect 5.1 disks to see what it really should look like. __________________ Groeten van Frenkel Visit us at the Official S&F Prod. Homepage

04-29-2009, 03:14 PM	#16
PimPamPet	Re: Old manuals Thanks for sharing, Joe. The ROTT download from your Yahoo store doesn't come with a manual (why?) so I'm glad to finally 'have' it.

05-06-2009, 01:05 PM	#17
Jeffpiatt	Re: Old manuals I just added the manuals to my dbgl profiles for the games. and printed them up in to a binder for hard copys.

05-09-2009, 02:43 PM	#18
DOSGuy	Re: Old manuals Is there any prohibition on external hosting of these PDFs? I'd love to host copies on Classic DOS Games, and to ensure that they always have a home on the web regardless of what the future holds, but I don't want to get into any copyright trouble. __________________ "Today entirely the maniac there is no excuse with the article." Get free DOS games at www.classicdosgames.com

05-09-2009, 03:12 PM	#20
Stevey Boy	Re: Old manuals Nice 1 for this Joe

05-10-2009, 07:00 AM	#24
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Old manuals What if I put a license.txt in the same directory stating something like we are releasing them for free, but the copyright is still to Apogee Software, Ltd? __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

05-10-2009, 04:19 PM	#27
IwantMORE	Re: Old manuals I'm sure that will work __________________ Signature removed to protect the guilty

05-10-2009, 06:14 PM	#28
fast-1	Re: Old manuals These appear on the CD's that you get with the games, the DN:MP one looks different from the one I have. Yes it looks like they have been the original scan copy, great. Last edited by fast-1; 05-10-2009 at 06:45 PM.

05-12-2009, 01:46 AM	#30
mouth	Re: Old manuals Nice stuff, thanks Joe! Monster Bash didn't have a manual? __________________ - I need to donate some blood... someone else's

05-12-2009, 08:07 AM	#31
Llama Gibbz	Re: Old manuals Thanks for making these available. A lot of the apogee stuff,i would of never seen otherwise. __________________ That's not dog,its imitation. Last edited by Llama Gibbz; 05-12-2009 at 08:37 AM.

05-12-2009, 02:36 PM	#32
sRfuzzyLogik	Re: Old manuals sweet!

05-19-2009, 01:53 PM	#34
EternalSonata	Re: Old manuals These are awesome. I've been looking for a good scan of the Spear of Destiny manual for years among a couple others, so this is great! Thanks, Joe! Can't wait to see the hint sheets, either.

05-21-2009, 03:34 PM	#37
Jeffpiatt	Re: Old manuals it is finally great to have all of these files it completes the games that i have to have the old manual pages. ---------------- Now playing: Bobby Prince - In the Dark via FoxyTunes

05-21-2009, 04:56 PM	#38
Flaose	Re: Old manuals I was surprised that the Goodbye Galaxy manual didn't go up (you can check out most of it here: http://cc314.classicgaming.gamespy.c...en4/index.html) I suppose this was only part of the retail package then?

05-22-2009, 03:21 AM	#39
PimPamPet	Re: Old manuals ^ Probably, but wasn't that sold by GT (Good Times) Software? I'm pretty sure it wasn't Apogee. I don't think Apogee went retail until Blake Stone: Planet Strike, right? Or I might just be talking out of my ass.