Apogee on GOG.com! - Page 2

Nickssoft · 03-01-2009, 12:40 PM

[QUOTE=Joe Siegler;835296]I was talking SOLELY about Manhattan project. No other title.

AND AGAIN WITH THE SOURCE CODE - MOST OF THE OLD GAMES DON'T EVEN HAVE THESE MATERIALS IN EXISTANCE ANYMORE! I answer this a zillion times, I don't know why people think the answer will change!

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But Joe it must be easy as a fly to type that in now. Should see how fast you can type that exact sentence in seconds. A little off topic but did you read what I said in the collection pic topic. I have the gold enterprise!! you have the plain one

IceColdDuke · 03-01-2009, 07:38 PM

He probley has it as a template now

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Altered Reality · 03-02-2009, 03:07 PM

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MOST OF THE OLD GAMES DON'T EVEN HAVE THESE MATERIALS IN EXISTANCE ANYMORE!

Does that include DNMP?

Joe Siegler · 03-02-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Altered Reality

Does that include DNMP?

DNMP was done by an external company that went bankrupt. Who knows? I don't.

And Tommy, cool down.

ZuljinRaynor · 03-02-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy-vercetti

Why isnt shadow warrior included?

Cause I think George really hates that game or something like that.

ZuljinRaynor · 03-02-2009, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy-vercetti

Hates that game?

Probably. But they still sell it, right?

Well, here they do, but I don't think they want to make it any more known besides those who know it already.

Joe Siegler · 03-02-2009, 08:51 PM

There's no answer that you like, so you make up your own, eh?

hightreason · 03-02-2009, 09:03 PM

I remember reading something about it just being "the remaining stock" that 3dr was selling on some games, it might have included shadow warrior, maybe it is that george hates it, or it might be that they have so little of them it isn't worth doing anything else with it except just leaving it for sale here.

Joe Siegler · 03-02-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hightreason

I remember reading something about it just being "the remaining stock" that 3dr was selling on some games, it might have included shadow warrior, maybe it is that george hates it, or it might be that they have so little of them it isn't worth doing anything else with it except just leaving it for sale here.

I'll repeat what I said. These stories are amusing. Nothing in your post here is accurate at all.

Somebody guessed (I'm guessing), and started passing it around as "Hey, I read this".. It's been my experience that the use of "I read this" is a euphemism for "Here's what I think"...

Qbix · 03-03-2009, 01:43 AM

why do they need to tell you that ?
Demanding an answer ?
Are you a baby ?

Klaus Kinski · 03-03-2009, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy-vercetti

In case anyone is gonna pull the www.justf****inggoogleit.com response, Im gonna register the name "www.justf****ingtellmerightnow.com" And i plan to promote it.

Oh, please do that. BTW, the answer you are looking for is here.

Reaper · 03-04-2009, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

Didn't look terribly hard, eh?

http://www.mking.com/

http://www.3drealms.com/news/2006/04...legacy_14.html

No, I didn't.

Although that's a link to a downloadable Raptor port to Windows OSes. Did Scott Host not want to let people who already own (or just recently bought

) the old Raptor to get the updated exe? Or is there something else that has yet to be explained to me?

I hope any answer that you give doesn't require too much grief. I hear grief points can only be redeemed for less hairs on your head.

Joe Siegler · 03-04-2009, 10:40 AM

You have to buy it from him to get the Windows version.

Altered Reality · 03-05-2009, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

DNMP was done by an external company that went bankrupt. Who knows? I don't.

Since the rights have been reobtained, am I correct in assuming that George and/or Scott know the answer to my question?

BloodWolf806 · 03-05-2009, 08:03 AM

ROTT is available at GOG now!

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/rise_...riad__dark_war

I'll get it as soon as my PC is fixed

(Never played it!)

peoplessi · 03-05-2009, 08:50 AM

It's great FPS, that's for sure

I remember playing it a lot back in the day.

Joe Siegler · 03-05-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Altered Reality

Since the rights have been reobtained, am I correct in assuming that George and/or Scott know the answer to my question?

I seriously doubt it. George has nothing to do with any of this, and Scott has effectively farmed it out to Apogee LLC. I doubt he knows what's going on either.

What was the question, anyway? We don't recall everyone's pet question for all time across the entire userbase, you know.

Altered Reality · 03-05-2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

What was the question, anyway? We don't recall everyone's pet question for all time across the entire userbase, you know.

My question was: is there any chance to have the source code of DNMP released?

BloodWolf806 · 03-05-2009, 08:00 PM

Just bought Duke 3D and ROTT!

Joe Siegler · 03-05-2009, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy-vercetti

The question was why is shadow warrior not included in the apogee games released on gog?

What makes you think that's everything? Come on dude, think. Not everything is "snap your fingers, it's there". Some games require more work than others. There's rights and licenses and all kins of stuff to sort through.

Besides, this is not being handled by us. It's being handled by the guy who is doing that "New Apogee" stuff. 3DR is not putting these games on Gog. It's not up to me/3DR as to what goes there.

Chill out - it's not a major conspiracy to stop you from buying your favorite game again, you know.

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Originally Posted by Altered Reality

My question was: is there any chance to have the source code of DNMP released?

Unknown. I'd have to inquire, and I doubt it's something anyone would want to deal with right now for reasons I can't get into.

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Originally Posted by BloodWolf806

Just bought Duke 3D and ROTT!

I need to see if they used the materials I sent over to them for ROTT. As you might imagine, I have a vested interest in that one.

IceColdDuke · 03-05-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Altered Reality

My question was: is there any chance to have the source code of DNMP released?

They used RAD Tools I believe for physics and movies i doubt we will ever see it : ).

KO Gilligan · 03-06-2009, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe Siegler

I need to see if they used the materials I sent over to them for ROTT. As you might imagine, I have a vested interest in that one.

They do updates, even if they didn't, I'm sure if you reminded them, they could add it.

Joe Siegler · 03-06-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by KO Gilligan

They do updates, even if they didn't, I'm sure if you reminded them, they could add it.

They added the materials.

EternalSonata · 03-06-2009, 10:56 AM

Hey guys! I drop by these forums once in a while to read various threads about Apogee's classic games, and it's great to see that others started getting into PC gaming with them as well! Apogee and id Software were the ones that pulled me away from my Super NES all those years ago and made me a PC gamer permanently!

Also, I usually only buy my games from either Steam or GoG.com now since digital distribution is an awesome thing. I was floored to see Apogee on Good Old Games, and even though I still have my copy of ROTT I got for Christmas that my sister paid $44.99 for at EB since I didn't want anything else, I bought it again on GoG because it's just that awesome!

I really love what Good Old Games is doing to revive the classics since they're what I'm about (I just got a shiny new Core 2 Duo system, but I've been playing DOS games for the past few weeks! Huzzah!), but I was going to ask if all of Apogee's classics are going to eventually appear on GoG.

The Legacy Interviews are very interesting, Joe! I'm to assume that all of those original developers own the rights to their game(s), correct? So they would have to have a say as to whether or not their game appeared on a digital distribution service, or is it 3D Realms' say?

Like, for example, Scott Host owns the rights to Raptor, right? Yet, 3D Realms still sells the original DOS version in your online store. How does that work? If Raptor were to appear on a service like GoG.com, would it be Apogee's original DOS version, or Scott's Windows version? And who decides?

Thanks for reading Joe, and thanks for being a part of many classic PC games I still make sure I can play every time I upgrade my PC!

MrBlackCat · 03-06-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Qbix

why do they need to tell you that ?
Demanding an answer ?
Are you a baby ?

Nice response...

Probably not a baby actually...
I will enlighten from my point of view. (tosses two cents)
Passive controllers will offer incorrect information to trigger a response of a correction to obtain the information they seek.
Several personality types have a high tendency to "correct" the intentionally incorrect provided information.

And now back to baby-watch with our host...

MrBlackCat

Joe Siegler · 03-06-2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy-vercetti

So what kind of license and rights proceedings take place to get a given game into a new retail channel? Could you quickly explain plz?

Why do you think these questions of yours are quick answers? They're not, generally.

Montykoro! · 03-10-2009, 06:50 AM

Why pay for a game that I already have and it works on Win 9x, XP and Vista?

It only requires some computer knowledge or follow tutorials, dos box is simple to use and for games that do not take dos boxes can be used a Virtual PC.

Or build a Vintage pc! like Pentium MMX 16MB of RAM

ZaphodB · 03-10-2009, 06:56 AM

Duke Nukem Manhattan Project available now on GoG!

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/duke_...attan_project/

Micki! · 03-10-2009, 07:11 AM

They list it as a "solid sequel to Duke3D" -which i corrected them with in thier forums, here's hoping they fix that, it could mislead people, and the websites overall credibility...

BloodWolf806 · 03-10-2009, 07:28 AM

MP is already available?

Rockin'!

Joe Siegler · 03-10-2009, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ZaphodB

Duke Nukem Manhattan Project available now on GoG!

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/duke_...attan_project/

As is Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold.

Water12356 · 03-10-2009, 08:24 AM

Thanks for posting that ZaphodB!

Im getting it now!

dicklaurent · 03-10-2009, 04:12 PM

Really great seeing these on gog. Bought all the Apogee stuff released so far. Hope they announce even more titles soon.

I wonder Joe, if you guys have received any numbers for these.. and if you're able to talk about this at all? DN3D has been on top of the bestseller list since it was released, and ROTT is 2 now right behind it.

Joe Siegler · 03-10-2009, 04:19 PM

No, numbers on this stuff aren't something I'm privy to. Even if I was, I doubt I'd be allowed to talk about it.

ShadeEX · 03-10-2009, 06:23 PM

I just bought Blake Stone but it says it's version 2.10R

Also the BS-Hint file is missing from the gog install..

Is there anything Important added in the 3.0 Patch or is that unimportant?? Meaning do I need the 3.0 patch or not

Joe Siegler · 03-10-2009, 07:03 PM

No, I gave them 2.1 for this. The only thing that changed from 2.1 to 3.0 was a price drop. The game itself was unchanged. When we mastered registered 3.0, a mistake was made and the full version was shipped out with the "Buy for $29.95" branding on the paid for copy. Gog didn't want that version, and since we had no materials available to fix it, they just went with 2.1.

There's only about six people on the Internet that would care about that anyway. Congratulations.

hahahahaha

Also, you sure there was a bs-hint.exe?

ShadeEX · 03-10-2009, 08:52 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Joe..

And yeah I'm pretty shure theres a BS-Hint file.. The Blake Stone Patches mentiones that file too even..

But it's missing from the GOG release

BloodWolf806 · 03-13-2009, 11:28 AM

Just bought DNMP!

Haven't played this in years. My dog ate my cd (Not a joke!)

nebiatsu · 03-13-2009, 12:47 PM

Got DN3d and RotT.
Already own the DNMP from when it was first released.

Anyone (Joe?) know if the expansions for DN3d are going to be available on gog?
I dont even see them on the 3dr store for sale.

Phayzon · 03-13-2009, 12:52 PM

The expansions weren't developed by nor do they belong to 3DR. Almost certainly we'll never see the expansions.

03-02-2009, 08:51 PM	#47
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! There's no answer that you like, so you make up your own, eh? __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-03-2009, 01:43 AM	#50
Qbix DOSBox Advisor	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! why do they need to tell you that ? Demanding an answer ? Are you a baby ? Last edited by Qbix; 03-03-2009 at 01:46 AM.

03-04-2009, 10:40 AM	#53
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! You have to buy it from him to get the Windows version. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-10-2009, 04:19 PM	#74
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! No, numbers on this stuff aren't something I'm privy to. Even if I was, I doubt I'd be allowed to talk about it. __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-10-2009, 07:03 PM	#76
Joe Siegler 3D Realms Staff	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! No, I gave them 2.1 for this. The only thing that changed from 2.1 to 3.0 was a price drop. The game itself was unchanged. When we mastered registered 3.0, a mistake was made and the full version was shipped out with the "Buy for $29.95" branding on the paid for copy. Gog didn't want that version, and since we had no materials available to fix it, they just went with 2.1. There's only about six people on the Internet that would care about that anyway. Congratulations. hahahahaha Also, you sure there was a bs-hint.exe? __________________ Apogee / 3D Realms Employee: Dec 14, 1992 - May 22, 2009, Oct 23, 2014 - current "Lifting up the Cross to the waiting lost" - Petra \| John 3:16

03-01-2009, 12:40 PM	#41
Nickssoft	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! [QUOTE=Joe Siegler;835296]I was talking SOLELY about Manhattan project. No other title. AND AGAIN WITH THE SOURCE CODE - MOST OF THE OLD GAMES DON'T EVEN HAVE THESE MATERIALS IN EXISTANCE ANYMORE! I answer this a zillion times, I don't know why people think the answer will change! [COLOR="Silver"] QUOTE] But Joe it must be easy as a fly to type that in now. Should see how fast you can type that exact sentence in seconds. A little off topic but did you read what I said in the collection pic topic. I have the gold enterprise!! you have the plain one

03-01-2009, 07:38 PM	#42
IceColdDuke	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! He probley has it as a template now .

03-02-2009, 09:03 PM	#48
hightreason	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! I remember reading something about it just being "the remaining stock" that 3dr was selling on some games, it might have included shadow warrior, maybe it is that george hates it, or it might be that they have so little of them it isn't worth doing anything else with it except just leaving it for sale here. __________________ High Treason (My Website) (Second Site) (My YouTube) Punk's not dead - and nor is Duke! Ever get the feeling you are being ignored?

03-05-2009, 08:03 AM	#55
BloodWolf806	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! ROTT is available at GOG now! http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/rise_...riad__dark_war I'll get it as soon as my PC is fixed (Never played it!) __________________ You're beautiful when you're DYIN'

03-05-2009, 08:50 AM	#56
peoplessi	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! It's great FPS, that's for sure I remember playing it a lot back in the day. __________________ Duke Nukem Forever Who am I to judge?

03-05-2009, 08:00 PM	#59
BloodWolf806	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Just bought Duke 3D and ROTT! __________________ You're beautiful when you're DYIN'

03-06-2009, 10:56 AM	#64
EternalSonata	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Hey guys! I drop by these forums once in a while to read various threads about Apogee's classic games, and it's great to see that others started getting into PC gaming with them as well! Apogee and id Software were the ones that pulled me away from my Super NES all those years ago and made me a PC gamer permanently! Also, I usually only buy my games from either Steam or GoG.com now since digital distribution is an awesome thing. I was floored to see Apogee on Good Old Games, and even though I still have my copy of ROTT I got for Christmas that my sister paid $44.99 for at EB since I didn't want anything else, I bought it again on GoG because it's just that awesome! I really love what Good Old Games is doing to revive the classics since they're what I'm about (I just got a shiny new Core 2 Duo system, but I've been playing DOS games for the past few weeks! Huzzah!), but I was going to ask if all of Apogee's classics are going to eventually appear on GoG. The Legacy Interviews are very interesting, Joe! I'm to assume that all of those original developers own the rights to their game(s), correct? So they would have to have a say as to whether or not their game appeared on a digital distribution service, or is it 3D Realms' say? Like, for example, Scott Host owns the rights to Raptor, right? Yet, 3D Realms still sells the original DOS version in your online store. How does that work? If Raptor were to appear on a service like GoG.com, would it be Apogee's original DOS version, or Scott's Windows version? And who decides? Thanks for reading Joe, and thanks for being a part of many classic PC games I still make sure I can play every time I upgrade my PC!

03-10-2009, 06:50 AM	#67
Montykoro!	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Why pay for a game that I already have and it works on Win 9x, XP and Vista? It only requires some computer knowledge or follow tutorials, dos box is simple to use and for games that do not take dos boxes can be used a Virtual PC. Or build a Vintage pc! like Pentium MMX 16MB of RAM __________________ "Those damn PigCops are gonna pay for spreading Swine Flu!"

03-10-2009, 06:56 AM	#68
ZaphodB	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Duke Nukem Manhattan Project available now on GoG! http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/duke_...attan_project/ __________________ "If there's ANYTHING larger than my EGO I want it shot and killed right now" - Zaphod Beeblebrox This Public Service Announcement brought to you by: "The People Who Have NO Idea What's Going On" (TPWHNOIWGON) We thank you for ignoring it.

03-10-2009, 07:11 AM	#69
Micki!	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! They list it as a "solid sequel to Duke3D" -which i corrected them with in thier forums, here's hoping they fix that, it could mislead people, and the websites overall credibility... __________________ A true genius does not need boundaries such as 'common sense'

03-10-2009, 07:28 AM	#70
BloodWolf806	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! MP is already available? Rockin'! __________________ You're beautiful when you're DYIN'

03-10-2009, 08:24 AM	#72
Water12356	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Thanks for posting that ZaphodB! Im getting it now! __________________ "Psycho Mantis locking your doors, your fridge, shutting off your air conditioner, and clogging your toilet sure beats reading some crap off a memory card." - Mr. Blud "Men trade whatever they have for sex and women trade sex for whatever they want. That may be unromantic but theres truth to it." - Nessus

03-10-2009, 04:12 PM	#73
dicklaurent	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Really great seeing these on gog. Bought all the Apogee stuff released so far. Hope they announce even more titles soon. I wonder Joe, if you guys have received any numbers for these.. and if you're able to talk about this at all? DN3D has been on top of the bestseller list since it was released, and ROTT is 2 now right behind it.

03-10-2009, 06:23 PM	#75
ShadeEX	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! I just bought Blake Stone but it says it's version 2.10R Also the BS-Hint file is missing from the gog install.. Is there anything Important added in the 3.0 Patch or is that unimportant?? Meaning do I need the 3.0 patch or not __________________ Quote: "In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluxuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data." My Youtube Page-My Website(Not updated yet)-My Other Blog

03-10-2009, 08:52 PM	#77
ShadeEX	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Thanks for clearing that up Joe.. And yeah I'm pretty shure theres a BS-Hint file.. The Blake Stone Patches mentiones that file too even.. But it's missing from the GOG release __________________ Quote: "In an infinite universe where reality is interpreted through our continuously fluxuating perception, providing absolute definitive proof of anything becomes a little more than speculation based on random data." My Youtube Page-My Website(Not updated yet)-My Other Blog

03-13-2009, 11:28 AM	#78
BloodWolf806	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Just bought DNMP! Haven't played this in years. My dog ate my cd (Not a joke!) __________________ You're beautiful when you're DYIN'

03-13-2009, 12:47 PM	#79
nebiatsu	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! Got DN3d and RotT. Already own the DNMP from when it was first released. Anyone (Joe?) know if the expansions for DN3d are going to be available on gog? I dont even see them on the 3dr store for sale.

03-13-2009, 12:52 PM	#80
Phayzon	Re: Apogee on GOG.com! The expansions weren't developed by nor do they belong to 3DR. Almost certainly we'll never see the expansions. __________________ I made the first post on the VB! "So I guess the news here is that not only is Australia the last to get anything new in regard to videogames, they're also the first to get them taken away." - LeadBullet "We're part-time internet superheros." - Hudson